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malcolm October 24th 03 11:01 PM

Adjusting a skipping CD player - ?
 
it sounds like the CD Player doesnt like the 'copy protected' CDs they now
sell.



ts October 24th 03 11:19 PM

Adjusting a skipping CD player - ?
 
Laurence Payne wrote:

My about 10 y.o. SONY har recently begun misbehaving, . . .


Make sure all sliding parts aren't sticking at the end of their range.
And make sure any rubber belts are clean and grease-free. Apart from
that, there's not much you can do without technical skills and
equipment. And if you had those, you wouldn't be asking here :-)


makes notes for possible pre-disassembly check

I see technical skills as educated ability - of which I must have some
of the latter, otherwise my previoud DIY jobs would have failed. What I
lack is a technical protocol, which Old Fart at Play further down
indicated existed on some web sites. Might Google a bit for them.

Is it a particularly wonderful player? The current sub-£100 Sonys are
really very good.


Not really - but in mint condition, and playing most of my CD collection
perfectly, it still seems to good to scrap.

--
T Sandvik // to send e-mail, remove clothes

ts October 24th 03 11:19 PM

Adjusting a skipping CD player - ?
 
Laurence Payne wrote:

My about 10 y.o. SONY har recently begun misbehaving, . . .


Make sure all sliding parts aren't sticking at the end of their range.
And make sure any rubber belts are clean and grease-free. Apart from
that, there's not much you can do without technical skills and
equipment. And if you had those, you wouldn't be asking here :-)


makes notes for possible pre-disassembly check

I see technical skills as educated ability - of which I must have some
of the latter, otherwise my previoud DIY jobs would have failed. What I
lack is a technical protocol, which Old Fart at Play further down
indicated existed on some web sites. Might Google a bit for them.

Is it a particularly wonderful player? The current sub-£100 Sonys are
really very good.


Not really - but in mint condition, and playing most of my CD collection
perfectly, it still seems to good to scrap.

--
T Sandvik // to send e-mail, remove clothes

ts October 24th 03 11:19 PM

Adjusting a skipping CD player - ?
 
Keith G wrote:

"ts" wrote in message
...



???? Seems reasonable enough to me....???


From a commercial point of view - perfectly acceptable. But the pure
existence of a brand specific dealership indicates to me they care for
and are proud of their products - aka the "It may be your car, but it's
our baby" commercial Ford ran a few years ago. THus I expect Sony
dealerships to reward faithful customers differently than independent
ones. I woud rather pay Sonys rates at an independent shop for the sake
of an independent opinion - they will not benefit from giving false
advice, which the Sony deal equally well may have been designed
precisely to do, to boost sales.

If this is the case, can anyone recommend an independent workshop which
might adjust the player?


They'll just charge the same sort of money without being able to offer a
deduction from the price of a replacement player, if necessary. (Even
repairmen and their families gotta eat occasionally......)


True. Mee too, from a civil servants wage.

I think the clue is in the question. with the word 'skip' being the main
operator...... ;-)


True again. Considering provided service, residual value of said player
is close to nil, it is just my sentimentalism that keep me wanting to
continue keeping/using it.

With perfectly respectable little CD/R/RW/DVD-V/MP3 players costing as
little as £45 these days I can't see the point of getting the cheaper CDPS
even looked at if they go on the fritz (and you can't fix it with a laser
cleaning exercise).

Only my 2p....


valued much higher - thanks.

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T Sandvik // to send e-mail, remove clothes

ts October 24th 03 11:19 PM

Adjusting a skipping CD player - ?
 
Keith G wrote:

"ts" wrote in message
...



???? Seems reasonable enough to me....???


From a commercial point of view - perfectly acceptable. But the pure
existence of a brand specific dealership indicates to me they care for
and are proud of their products - aka the "It may be your car, but it's
our baby" commercial Ford ran a few years ago. THus I expect Sony
dealerships to reward faithful customers differently than independent
ones. I woud rather pay Sonys rates at an independent shop for the sake
of an independent opinion - they will not benefit from giving false
advice, which the Sony deal equally well may have been designed
precisely to do, to boost sales.

If this is the case, can anyone recommend an independent workshop which
might adjust the player?


They'll just charge the same sort of money without being able to offer a
deduction from the price of a replacement player, if necessary. (Even
repairmen and their families gotta eat occasionally......)


True. Mee too, from a civil servants wage.

I think the clue is in the question. with the word 'skip' being the main
operator...... ;-)


True again. Considering provided service, residual value of said player
is close to nil, it is just my sentimentalism that keep me wanting to
continue keeping/using it.

With perfectly respectable little CD/R/RW/DVD-V/MP3 players costing as
little as £45 these days I can't see the point of getting the cheaper CDPS
even looked at if they go on the fritz (and you can't fix it with a laser
cleaning exercise).

Only my 2p....


valued much higher - thanks.

--
T Sandvik // to send e-mail, remove clothes

ts October 24th 03 11:19 PM

Adjusting a skipping CD player - ?
 
harrogate wrote:

"ts" wrote in message
...

My about 10 y.o. SONY har recently begun misbehaving, with progressively
worse skipping primarily when playing newish (Audio) CDs, the first
three (innermost) tracks mostly affected.


It will be the laser dying - in fact if yours has lasted 10 years with
reasonable usage it hasn't done too badly. Most people don't realise that
the laser has a limited life.

As someone else says, some of the modern cheapies, such as bottom end Sony
or Philips, really are very good. Have a looker at www.richersounds.co.uk or
visit your nearest branch. They currently do three Philips machines for
under £100 or a Marantz for £120 (Marantz is basically Philips with improved
electronics.)


Definitively worth having a look at those, then. For the sake of
independent advice, is there actually any gain in spending £3-500 on a
dedicated CD player? What would the benefits be?

Unless you are desperate for a single unit and DVD don't (yet) replace it
with a DVD player - in general their audio quality from CDs still leaves a
lot to be desired.


That was my impression, too.

Thanks,

--
T Sandvik // to send e-mail, remove clothes

ts October 24th 03 11:19 PM

Adjusting a skipping CD player - ?
 
harrogate wrote:

"ts" wrote in message
...

My about 10 y.o. SONY har recently begun misbehaving, with progressively
worse skipping primarily when playing newish (Audio) CDs, the first
three (innermost) tracks mostly affected.


It will be the laser dying - in fact if yours has lasted 10 years with
reasonable usage it hasn't done too badly. Most people don't realise that
the laser has a limited life.

As someone else says, some of the modern cheapies, such as bottom end Sony
or Philips, really are very good. Have a looker at www.richersounds.co.uk or
visit your nearest branch. They currently do three Philips machines for
under £100 or a Marantz for £120 (Marantz is basically Philips with improved
electronics.)


Definitively worth having a look at those, then. For the sake of
independent advice, is there actually any gain in spending £3-500 on a
dedicated CD player? What would the benefits be?

Unless you are desperate for a single unit and DVD don't (yet) replace it
with a DVD player - in general their audio quality from CDs still leaves a
lot to be desired.


That was my impression, too.

Thanks,

--
T Sandvik // to send e-mail, remove clothes

ts October 24th 03 11:19 PM

Adjusting a skipping CD player - ?
 
Old Fart at Play wrote:

ts wrote:


My about 10 y.o. SONY har recently begun misbehaving,

. . .
Or alternatively, does anyone know whether this may be done DIY-wise;
thus instructions of how to do it would be very much appreciated (very
often, specialist servicing jobs are surprisingly simple!).


There are some websites with details of adjusting CD players.
You need an oscilloscope, a DVM and plenty of time.
As an exercise, it will be amusing.


Hmm - I should have access to an oscilloscope somewhere. Definite
future project. Any favourite URLs, or don't generic protocols exist?

I found a CD player whose lens had fallen off and realigned it.
If I costed my time, I could have bought a nice, new, non-Sony one. :-)


Well done! - It's about one's attitude to life - like
mountaineering. One does it because the challence is there.

When did Sony stop making CD players that cause headaches?
It must have been about ten years ago.


Point taken.

Thanks,

--
T Sandvik // to send e-mail, remove clothes

ts October 24th 03 11:19 PM

Adjusting a skipping CD player - ?
 
Old Fart at Play wrote:

ts wrote:


My about 10 y.o. SONY har recently begun misbehaving,

. . .
Or alternatively, does anyone know whether this may be done DIY-wise;
thus instructions of how to do it would be very much appreciated (very
often, specialist servicing jobs are surprisingly simple!).


There are some websites with details of adjusting CD players.
You need an oscilloscope, a DVM and plenty of time.
As an exercise, it will be amusing.


Hmm - I should have access to an oscilloscope somewhere. Definite
future project. Any favourite URLs, or don't generic protocols exist?

I found a CD player whose lens had fallen off and realigned it.
If I costed my time, I could have bought a nice, new, non-Sony one. :-)


Well done! - It's about one's attitude to life - like
mountaineering. One does it because the challence is there.

When did Sony stop making CD players that cause headaches?
It must have been about ten years ago.


Point taken.

Thanks,

--
T Sandvik // to send e-mail, remove clothes

ts October 24th 03 11:35 PM

Adjusting a skipping CD player - ?
 
malcolm wrote:

it sounds like the CD Player doesnt like the 'copy protected' CDs they now
sell.


Also thought of that possibility. Some of the worst skipping ones [SO's]
bear a "Audio CD" logo, if it should matter.

Just to investigate, I copied one of the SO's with a CDRW. The copy
appeared to play slightly better wrt skipping, but was more noicy
(sudden "bursts"), and thus not a useful copy. A hallmark of a mediocre
CDRW, or blank disks ? (unfortunately didn't check details)

Thanks,

--
T Sandvik // to send e-mail, remove clothes


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