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ts October 24th 03 11:35 PM

Adjusting a skipping CD player - ?
 
malcolm wrote:

it sounds like the CD Player doesnt like the 'copy protected' CDs they now
sell.


Also thought of that possibility. Some of the worst skipping ones [SO's]
bear a "Audio CD" logo, if it should matter.

Just to investigate, I copied one of the SO's with a CDRW. The copy
appeared to play slightly better wrt skipping, but was more noicy
(sudden "bursts"), and thus not a useful copy. A hallmark of a mediocre
CDRW, or blank disks ? (unfortunately didn't check details)

Thanks,

--
T Sandvik // to send e-mail, remove clothes

Laurence Payne October 25th 03 12:11 AM

Adjusting a skipping CD player - ?
 
On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:19:01 +0100,
(ts) wrote:

Is it a particularly wonderful player? The current sub-£100 Sonys are
really very good.


Not really - but in mint condition, and playing most of my CD collection
perfectly, it still seems to good to scrap.


Failing to play some CDs doesn't strike me as a definition of "mint
condition", unless you're just referring to an unmarked case :-)

These things do wear out. Perhaps the laser is just getting weak.

We're talking consumer electronics, not family heirlooms for goodness'
sake :-)

Laurence Payne October 25th 03 12:11 AM

Adjusting a skipping CD player - ?
 
On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:19:01 +0100,
(ts) wrote:

Is it a particularly wonderful player? The current sub-£100 Sonys are
really very good.


Not really - but in mint condition, and playing most of my CD collection
perfectly, it still seems to good to scrap.


Failing to play some CDs doesn't strike me as a definition of "mint
condition", unless you're just referring to an unmarked case :-)

These things do wear out. Perhaps the laser is just getting weak.

We're talking consumer electronics, not family heirlooms for goodness'
sake :-)

Jim Lesurf October 25th 03 08:59 AM

Adjusting a skipping CD player - ?
 
In article , harrogate
wrote:

"ts" wrote in message
...
Hello,

I thought I'd ask here before converting my CD player into an inverse
AIRFIX lifesize model.

My about 10 y.o. SONY har recently begun misbehaving, with
progressively worse skipping primarily when playing newish (Audio)
CDs, the first three (innermost) tracks mostly affected.


It will be the laser dying - in fact if yours has lasted 10 years with
reasonable usage it hasn't done too badly. Most people don't realise
that the laser has a limited life.


I am not sure that it will be the laser. If I understand correctly what
'ts' says, the effect shows preferrentially with the first tracks of a CD.
If the laser power was degraded, I would not expect it to make much
difference which track you were playing.

To me, it seems more like a mechanical problem due to wear or acculation of
grime, or variation in the adjustments.

Slainte,

Jim

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Jim Lesurf October 25th 03 08:59 AM

Adjusting a skipping CD player - ?
 
In article , harrogate
wrote:

"ts" wrote in message
...
Hello,

I thought I'd ask here before converting my CD player into an inverse
AIRFIX lifesize model.

My about 10 y.o. SONY har recently begun misbehaving, with
progressively worse skipping primarily when playing newish (Audio)
CDs, the first three (innermost) tracks mostly affected.


It will be the laser dying - in fact if yours has lasted 10 years with
reasonable usage it hasn't done too badly. Most people don't realise
that the laser has a limited life.


I am not sure that it will be the laser. If I understand correctly what
'ts' says, the effect shows preferrentially with the first tracks of a CD.
If the laser power was degraded, I would not expect it to make much
difference which track you were playing.

To me, it seems more like a mechanical problem due to wear or acculation of
grime, or variation in the adjustments.

Slainte,

Jim

--
Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm
Audio Misc http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/AudioMisc/index.html
Armstrong Audio http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/Audio/armstrong.html
Barbirolli Soc. http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/JBSoc/JBSoc.html

Mike October 25th 03 04:15 PM

Adjusting a skipping CD player - ?
 
(ts) writes:

From a commercial point of view - perfectly acceptable. But the pure
existence of a brand specific dealership indicates to me they care for
and are proud of their products - aka the "It may be your car, but it's
our baby" commercial Ford ran a few years ago.


I think that authorized repair services have three advantage over
independent ones. First, they have an easier access to custom parts,
like ROMS or transformers. Second, having seen more models of the same
type and brand they could recognize some common pitfalls. Third,
an authorized service has to meet some standards.

True again. Considering provided service, residual value of said player
is close to nil, it is just my sentimentalism that keep me wanting to
continue keeping/using it.

Anyway, try to search sci.electronics.repair FAQS: there is some advice
on servicing CD players.

Mike October 25th 03 04:15 PM

Adjusting a skipping CD player - ?
 
(ts) writes:

From a commercial point of view - perfectly acceptable. But the pure
existence of a brand specific dealership indicates to me they care for
and are proud of their products - aka the "It may be your car, but it's
our baby" commercial Ford ran a few years ago.


I think that authorized repair services have three advantage over
independent ones. First, they have an easier access to custom parts,
like ROMS or transformers. Second, having seen more models of the same
type and brand they could recognize some common pitfalls. Third,
an authorized service has to meet some standards.

True again. Considering provided service, residual value of said player
is close to nil, it is just my sentimentalism that keep me wanting to
continue keeping/using it.

Anyway, try to search sci.electronics.repair FAQS: there is some advice
on servicing CD players.

ts October 25th 03 06:42 PM

Adjusting a skipping CD player - ?
 
Laurence Payne wrote:

On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:19:01 +0100,
(ts) wrote:

Is it a particularly wonderful player? The current sub-£100 Sonys are
really very good.


Not really - but in mint condition, and playing most of my CD collection
perfectly, it still seems to good to scrap.


Failing to play some CDs doesn't strike me as a definition of "mint
condition", unless you're just referring to an unmarked case :-)

These things do wear out. Perhaps the laser is just getting weak.


May well be so - I don't expect it to last forever either.

But then again, it only skips when playing new CDs. Copy protection and
loss of sound quality has been discussed in another thread. Since I
managed to copy one of the skipping disks, that disk was presumably not
copy protected.

Are modern Audio CDs manufactured to different quality standards than
previously?

--
T Sandvik // to send e-mail, remove clothes

ts October 25th 03 06:42 PM

Adjusting a skipping CD player - ?
 
Laurence Payne wrote:

On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:19:01 +0100,
(ts) wrote:

Is it a particularly wonderful player? The current sub-£100 Sonys are
really very good.


Not really - but in mint condition, and playing most of my CD collection
perfectly, it still seems to good to scrap.


Failing to play some CDs doesn't strike me as a definition of "mint
condition", unless you're just referring to an unmarked case :-)

These things do wear out. Perhaps the laser is just getting weak.


May well be so - I don't expect it to last forever either.

But then again, it only skips when playing new CDs. Copy protection and
loss of sound quality has been discussed in another thread. Since I
managed to copy one of the skipping disks, that disk was presumably not
copy protected.

Are modern Audio CDs manufactured to different quality standards than
previously?

--
T Sandvik // to send e-mail, remove clothes

ts October 25th 03 10:32 PM

Adjusting a skipping CD player - ?
 
Mike wrote:

I think that authorized repair services have three advantage over
independent ones. First, they have an easier access to custom parts,
like ROMS or transformers. Second, having seen more models of the same
type and brand they could recognize some common pitfalls. Third,
an authorized service has to meet some standards.


Which should give them an advantage over independent specialists, in
being able to spot the problem in four minutes, and if possible, fix it
in another five. Instead, they screw it all up by having their
management making them charge 1 h for each of the mentioned activities;
half aiming at "helping" the customer to decide to buy a new box of
their brand instead.

They loose me as a customer, because of their attitude, even if their
products are good.

Anyway, try to search sci.electronics.repair FAQS: there is some advice
on servicing CD players.


Just found it - will have a closer look.

THanks -

--
T Sandvik // to send e-mail, remove clothes


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