Trevor Wilson wrote:

Having said that, I can't get
excited about any dual concentric driver I've ever heard. Including the much
vaunted Tannoys.

Trevor Wilson



Dunno why. The Tannoy Monitor Gold series are stunning in their stereo
stage management. I heard them a lot in UK studios in the 70s and the
only thing that came anywhere near then were the big JBls. We had 15
inch Golds in huge Lockwood cabinets on wheels at Neve for checking the
sound of consoles. I still use a pair of 2 inch Monitor Golds to this
day. Best speakers ever invented IMHO.

Cheers

Ian

Ian Thompson-Bell wrote:

Trevor Wilson wrote:

Having said that, I can't get excited about any dual concentric driver I've
ever heard. Including the much vaunted Tannoys.


Dunno why. The Tannoy Monitor Gold series are stunning in their stereo
stage management. I heard them a lot in UK studios in the 70s and the
only thing that came anywhere near then were the big JBls.

Can't agree at all. To my ears the Reds actually sounded a little more natural.
The Golds seemed to squawk a bit to me.


We had 15 inch Golds in huge Lockwood cabinets on wheels at Neve for checking
the
sound of consoles.

And rubbish they are too. Especially with all that polished wooden floor.
Lockwoods are vile cabinets. As you might expect from a coffin maker.


I still use a pair of 2 inch Monitor Golds to this
day. Best speakers ever invented IMHO.

You must be deaf. I got that impression about quite a few people at Neve,
especially those in the top jobs. Deaf, incompetent or just not bothered sums them
up.

Graahm

Eeyore wrote:


You must be deaf. I got that impression about quite a few people at Neve,
especially those in the top jobs. Deaf, incompetent or just not bothered sums them
up.



I am 57 now and I am beginning to go deaf. I certainly wasn't deaf in
the 70s - wish I could as well as that now.

Seems like you never had any manners though.

Nuff Said

Ian

Ian Thompson-Bell wrote:

Eeyore wrote:

You must be deaf. I got that impression about quite a few people at Neve,
especially those in the top jobs. Deaf, incompetent or just not bothered sums them
up.

I am 57 now and I am beginning to go deaf. I certainly wasn't deaf in
the 70s - wish I could as well as that now.

Seems like you never had any manners though.

I'm not one for 'doffing my cap' in the usual English defential manner to those who like
to present themselves as my 'betters' who are actually clueless. Paying homage to
ancient and miserable sounding Tannoys is another thing I won't stomach.

I was appalled at the level of disinterest in audio within the 'board' at Neve. That's
one reason I quit after about 3 years as a project leader. I could see they were heading
for failure, and indeed it was so.

Graham

In article ,
Eeyore wrote:
I was appalled at the level of disinterest in audio within the 'board'
at Neve. That's one reason I quit after about 3 years as a project
leader. I could see they were heading for failure, and indeed it was so.

Neve produced generally good sounding designs, but the quality of some
components was dreadful. Switches, pots and relays mainly. Often wore out
after about 2 years broadcast use - not what you'd expect from top dollar
prices.

--
*I'm planning to be spontaneous tomorrow *

Dave Plowman London SW
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

Eeyore wrote:

I was appalled at the level of disinterest in audio within the 'board'
at Neve. That's one reason I quit after about 3 years as a project
leader. I could see they were heading for failure, and indeed it was so.

Neve produced generally good sounding designs, but the quality of some
components was dreadful. Switches, pots and relays mainly.

Funny considering they spent lots of money on pots and relays and stuck with
the same design of switch intentionally for decades.


Often wore out after about 2 years broadcast use - not what you'd expect
from top dollar
prices.

That's an atypical experience.

What console model(s) ?

Graham

In article , Eeyore
wrote:


"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

Eeyore wrote:

I was appalled at the level of disinterest in audio within the
'board' at Neve. That's one reason I quit after about 3 years as a
project leader. I could see they were heading for failure, and
indeed it was so.

Neve produced generally good sounding designs, but the quality of some
components was dreadful. Switches, pots and relays mainly.

Funny considering they spent lots of money on pots and relays and stuck
with the same design of switch intentionally for decades.

Other makers seemed to have found more reliable switches.


Often wore out after about 2 years broadcast use - not what you'd
expect from top dollar prices.

That's an atypical experience.

What console model(s) ?

I'm not good at remembering model nubers. The range BBC TV first used
(narrow module) at TV centre. The first one in TC3 was deemed unsuitable
for live use after only a few years due to unreliability. While much older
and equally as heavily used desks by both the BBC and commercial suppliers
soldiered on. I'd say that's why the BEEB changed to Calrec.

Teddington Studios had an early 'inline monitoring' unit in the recording
studio. The relays were changed several times and cleaned more often. And
there were a lot of relays.

--
*A cubicle is just a padded cell without a door.

Dave Plowman London SW
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Eeyore wrote:

I'm not one for 'doffing my cap' in the usual English defential manner to those who like
to present themselves as my 'betters' who are actually clueless.

I never presented myself as your better - I quite clearly stated that is
was IMHO.


I was appalled at the level of disinterest in audio within the 'board' at Neve. That's
one reason I quit after about 3 years as a project leader. I could see they were heading
for failure, and indeed it was so.


When were you there?

Ian

Ian Thompson-Bell wrote:

Eeyore wrote:

I'm not one for 'doffing my cap' in the usual English defential manner to those who like
to present themselves as my 'betters' who are actually clueless.

I never presented myself as your better - I quite clearly stated that is
was IMHO.

I was referring to certain people at Neve.


I was appalled at the level of disinterest in audio within the 'board' at Neve. That's
one reason I quit after about 3 years as a project leader. I could see they were heading
for failure, and indeed it was so.

When were you there?

85-88.

Graham

Eeyore wrote:

I was appalled at the level of disinterest in audio within the 'board' at Neve. That's
one reason I quit after about 3 years as a project leader. I could see they were heading
for failure, and indeed it was so.
When were you there?

85-88.


Ah, that explains it. I was there 73-76, different era and different
mind set altogether.

Ian