"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in
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Iain Churches wrote:

Your statement "I've only been here a short time" says
it all David. You don't remember The Good Olde Days,
when Dave and his
henchmen Pinkie and John The Baptist made it their
crusade to
see off anyone who spoke up in favour of vinyl.

Somehow I seem to have missed being included in this most recent example of
Iain's childish and incessant name-calling. I see that Jim also missed this
sloppy cut.

Good grief. You'd think it was some religion. *Of course*
some seeked to rebuke the hyperbole.

Agreed. Iain's idea of polite conversation seems to have escaped development
since the end of his struggles with primary school.

Keith was more resiliant than most. A great deal of
unsubstantiated nonsense was spouted by Pinkie and
supported by "his cohorts".

Pinkerton was the picture of scientific correctness, as were Dave and Jim.
There was a range of theory versus practice, but no deviation from
well-known and accepted technical knowlege.

Strange. I seem to remember Pinkie kicking your a**e on a
number of occasions and feeling rather sorry for you.

Apparently Lord Pinkerton either lost the interest or the time to keep his
foot's accustomed place in golden ear butinskys well exercised.


But you've 'seen him off' since he doesn't post here
anymore? Is that what you want Iain?

The throught that Pinkerton's absence is due to misfortune seems to rock
Iain's cradle.


But hey ho! Who cares? Keith is not the first, and he
certainly won't be the last. There are plenty of other
groups where he will be welcome.

It seems to be hard to find them.

Heh heh. Keithie and others started uk.rec.audio.vinyl.
Which is now virtually moribund. I'm sure he would be
welcome there if he feels he's not welcome here -
whatever that means.

Short attention span is a sign of immaturity.

You really are a strange fellow Iain. You have attempted
in every way you know a sort of character assassination
on me. Said you have spoken to ex workmates etc. All
sorts of things. A form of stalking, really. And yet
claim to want a polite newsgroup. It makes you perhaps
one of the biggest hypocrites I've come across.

Agreed. Iain's diety of choice seems to be Iain. :-(

In article ,
Arny Krueger wrote:
Have you ever wondered why live events 'sound' better
than any recording?

As a rule, they don't.

Really good sounding venues have never been all that common.

I've been at any number of live events that made me desperately wish for
my home audio system.

Hence my use of parenthesis. Liking a particular sound is subjective and
influenced by a number of things - like say an appreciative audience
around you. Or equally likely an annoying one. Think we've all heard
technically perfect recordings that are boring as hell but been enchanted
by a less than perfect live performance.

However any opinion is as valid as another in this sort of matter as it's
all down to personal choice in the end.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in
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Have you ever wondered why live events 'sound' better
than any recording?

As a rule, they don't.

That is correct.

Really good sounding venues have never been all that common.

Comparison of a live pop performance with a recorded
version of the same titles will reveal that (of necessity) a very
large proportion of tracked material is absent, i.e multi-
layered vocals etc.

Classical concerts and recordings can take place in the same
venue, and may sound very similar. The main difference is the
lack of coughing in the audience, and wrong notes/poor intonation
from the orchestra which has been corrected in inserts takes.

I've been at any number of live events that made me desperately wish for
my home audio system.

But the excitement of a live concert, the visual reference etc,
can make it something very special indeed.


Iain

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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Somehow I seem to have missed being included in this most recent example
of Iain's childish and incessant name-calling. I see that Jim also missed
this sloppy cut.

I don't know what you mean by "the sloppy cut" Arny, but
there are actually three people by the name of Jim,
to my knowledge, connected with UKRA. I have a good
relationship with all three, and keep in regular e-mail
contact with two of them. John the Baptist was a pet-name
given to you by one of your fans on a other NG a long
time ago. It seems to have stuck. Jen almost took the
role as your Salome:-)


The throught that Pinkerton's absence is due to misfortune seems to rock
Iain's cradle.

I know the details of his departure from Usenet. IIRC
you asked me about it. I made no comment..

But hey ho! Who cares? Keith is not the first, and he
certainly won't be the last. There are plenty of other
groups where he will be welcome.

It seems to be hard to find them.

Keith will, I am sure, be welcomed wherever he
chooses to hang his hat.

(snip)


Agreed. Iain's diety of choice seems to be Iain. :-(

Diety ???

Iain

In article i,
Iain Churches wrote:
It seems to be hard to find them.

Keith will, I am sure, be welcomed wherever he
chooses to hang his hat.

Well he certainly wasn't on sci.electronics.repair where he tried to throw
his weight around via crossposts from here. And made an absolute fool of
himself. And made it very clear in his latest post that he considers ura
his own 'personal property' where he should be the despot.

Those who wish to form 'clicks' on newsgroups *by trying to exclude
others* very often die by their own sword. Those of us with lots of
experience of them have seen it many many times.

--
*Do they ever shut up on your planet?

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
. ..

Apparently Lord Pinkerton either lost the interest or the time to ......

Sorry to cut you short Arny. Before you delude
yourself any further, you may wish to research the
records held by the College of Arms and the Royal
College of Heraldry, and also the following
publications printed in Great Britain.


Debrett's
Burke's Peerage
Fairburn's.


Iain

Keith G wrote:

Gordon J King - Beginner's Guide To Radio



Did GJK write for Hi-Fi news in the mid to late 70's about the time of
the Oracle Delphi 742 times better than the LP12 period?

In article , Unsteady Ken
wrote:
Keith G wrote:

Gordon J King - Beginner's Guide To Radio



Did GJK write for Hi-Fi news in the mid to late 70's

Yes. And for other mags.


about the time of the Oracle Delphi 742 times better than the LP12
period?

Phrasing does not construe. :-)

Slainte,

Jim

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Jim Lesurf wrote:


about the time of the Oracle Delphi 742 times better than the LP12
period?

Phrasing does not construe. :-)

About 76/77 when the LP12 ruled the world HFN carried a review of the
then new Delphi turntable and introduced the article by mentioning that
an American mag (forgot which) had claimed that the Delphi was 742?
times better than the LP12 this claim was based on a comparison of the
bearing machining tolerances. HFN liked the delphi but thought that it
didn't carry a tune quite as well, the beginnings of PRAT perhaps. I've
lustd after an Oracle since. At the time I hadn't subscribed to the
front end philosophy and was using a Philips GA212 Shure N75e with a
Pioneer SA9500 and Leak 2060's.
Ken