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Old February 8th 08, 10:09 PM posted to uk.d-i-y,uk.rec.audio,uk.tech.broadcast
Unsteady Ken
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

It's an external mount folded dipole type with F-type connector on the
aerial. Complete with wall mounting and 10m cable.


Why on earth did they decide on the F-type connector for DAB aerials, it
is a total pain to connect and is a matter of trial and error to get a
good connection why didn't they go for BNC?

Ken
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Old February 8th 08, 10:33 PM posted to uk.d-i-y,uk.rec.audio,uk.tech.broadcast
charles
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In article ,
Unsteady Ken wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:


It's an external mount folded dipole type with F-type connector on the
aerial. Complete with wall mounting and 10m cable.


Why on earth did they decide on the F-type connector for DAB aerials, it
is a total pain to connect and is a matter of trial and error to get a
good connection why didn't they go for BNC?


when BNC connectors first appeared we thought the abbreviation stood for
B***** Nasty Connector. Unless you can find crimp ones, and they have to
be the correct ones for the cable size, they re very difficult to assemble
correctly - and the cost quite a bit more, too.

Ken


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Old February 8th 08, 11:32 PM posted to uk.d-i-y,uk.rec.audio,uk.tech.broadcast
Dave Plowman (News)
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In article ,
charles wrote:
when BNC connectors first appeared we thought the abbreviation stood for
B***** Nasty Connector. Unless you can find crimp ones, and they have
to be the correct ones for the cable size, they re very difficult to
assemble correctly - and the cost quite a bit more, too.


There are crimp less types - if they're still made. With a universal cord
grip. Think there are also screw on types these days too.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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Old February 9th 08, 09:46 AM posted to uk.d-i-y,uk.rec.audio,uk.tech.broadcast
Ivor Jones[_3_]
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"Paul Martin" wrote in message


[snip]

: : Ah yes! Screw-on BNCs. The joys of thin ethernet.
: :
: : "Why's the network died?" "Someone's kicked their
: : network cable."
: :
: : Such an exchange was ususally followed by a scramble
: : under the desks looking for the loose cable segment.
: :
: : The crimp-on BNCs weren't much better. Often the crimps
: : didn't last under rough handling. How we rejoiced when
: : we moved everything to 10BaseT.

Ah yes, I'd forgotten thin ethernet. Crimp-on's are fine if you use a good
quality tool, same with RJ45's. What I *really* want to know though is
why the **** did our company IT dept only buy yellow patch cables..? How
am I supposed to decide which cable in the spider's web under my desk is
the printer..?!

Ivor

: :
: : --
: : Paul Martin

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Old February 9th 08, 01:21 PM posted to uk.d-i-y,uk.rec.audio,uk.tech.broadcast
Dave Plowman (News)
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In article ,
Paul Martin wrote:
The crimp-on BNCs weren't much better. Often the crimps didn't last
under rough handling. How we rejoiced when we moved everything to
10BaseT.


And that can stand rough handling? ;-)

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Old February 8th 08, 10:51 PM posted to uk.d-i-y,uk.rec.audio,uk.tech.broadcast
Dave Plowman (News)
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In article ,
Unsteady Ken wrote:
It's an external mount folded dipole type with F-type connector on the
aerial. Complete with wall mounting and 10m cable.


Why on earth did they decide on the F-type connector for DAB aerials, it
is a total pain to connect and is a matter of trial and error to get a
good connection why didn't they go for BNC?


You jest? Fitting a screw on F-type couldn't be simpler. BNCs require the
correct crimping tool. They're also several times the price.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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Old February 9th 08, 05:39 AM posted to uk.d-i-y,uk.rec.audio,uk.tech.broadcast
Malcolm Knight
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Unsteady Ken wrote:


Why on earth did they decide on the F-type connector for DAB aerials,
it
is a total pain to connect and is a matter of trial and error to get
a
good connection why didn't they go for BNC?


My ( now discarded) DAB tuner had BNC.

You jest? Fitting a screw on F-type couldn't be simpler. BNCs require
the
correct crimping tool. They're also several times the price.


Show me some F connectors at a fraction of 16 pence please. :-) The
only place I find cheap F connectors is on the road after a Sky van has
paid a visit.

eg.
http://www.connectorco.co.uk/catalogue/bnc.htm BNCs from 16 pence.
http://www.connectorco.co.uk/catalogue/coaxial.htm F plugs from 59
pence.
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Malcolm


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Old February 9th 08, 01:28 PM posted to uk.d-i-y,uk.rec.audio,uk.tech.broadcast
Dave Plowman (News)
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In article ,
Malcolm Knight wrote:
Show me some F connectors at a fraction of 16 pence please. :-) The
only place I find cheap F connectors is on the road after a Sky van has
paid a visit.


eg.
http://www.connectorco.co.uk/catalogue/bnc.htm BNCs from 16 pence.
http://www.connectorco.co.uk/catalogue/coaxial.htm F plugs from 59
pence.


Strange pricing - way out of line with everyone else.
I paid 14p for screw on F-types in bulk from Rapid. 9p by the thousand.
44p for BNCs.

Have you actually bought them at that price?

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Dave Plowman London SW
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Old February 9th 08, 01:59 PM posted to uk.d-i-y,uk.rec.audio,uk.tech.broadcast
Bill Wright
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Malcolm Knight wrote:
Show me some F connectors at a fraction of 16 pence please. :-) The
only place I find cheap F connectors is on the road after a Sky van has
paid a visit.


eg.
http://www.connectorco.co.uk/catalogue/bnc.htm BNCs from 16 pence.
http://www.connectorco.co.uk/catalogue/coaxial.htm F plugs from 59
pence.


Strange pricing - way out of line with everyone else.
I paid 14p for screw on F-types in bulk from Rapid. 9p by the thousand.
44p for BNCs.


Antiference 'f' screw ons are 8p each. I can get various cheaper ones for 4p
but they aren't very good. Some firms like Grax sell quite decent ones at
6p.

Bill


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Old February 9th 08, 03:03 PM posted to uk.d-i-y,uk.rec.audio,uk.tech.broadcast
Malcolm Knight
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Malcolm Knight wrote:
Show me some F connectors at a fraction of 16 pence please. :-) The
only place I find cheap F connectors is on the road after a Sky van
has
paid a visit.


eg.
http://www.connectorco.co.uk/catalogue/bnc.htm BNCs from 16 pence.
http://www.connectorco.co.uk/catalogue/coaxial.htm F plugs from 59
pence.


Strange pricing - way out of line with everyone else.
I paid 14p for screw on F-types in bulk from Rapid. 9p by the
thousand.
44p for BNCs.

Have you actually bought them at that price?


BNCs; yes, many hundreds, if not a thousand or so but not Fs. And only
with something else to spread the carriage costs. The company will take
phone orders as well as on-line and has never failed to provide next day
delivery. On the phone they will sometimes adjust the carriage cost to
suit small packages, depends who answers I think.

The cheap BNCs are sometimes bundled with boots too. The 16p ones are
better quality than Maplin's at nearly ten times the price, the only
problem I have found is that about one in 150 has a pin with too small a
hole bored in it. At that price just toss it away!

Their Neutrik phonos are very cheap too.
--
Malcolm


 




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