On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:28:13 GMT, "Woody" wrote:

Already there. There is a housing replacement for most custom-fit car
radios to convert them to standard DIN size, and usually the interface
cabling as well.

Go have a browse in Halfords some time and you'll see what I mean.

You need two separate items, the facia adaptor and the wiring harness
adaptor.

d


That's what I said - do you really need to duplicate it?

Just supplying the terminology Halfords use - makes finding stuff
easier.

For the record you may need two, even three wiring harness adapters.

How does that work?

d

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Don Pearce wrote:

On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 15:49:35 -0000, "Doki" wrote:

Does anyone know much about this? Is anyone kicking up a stink yet? If they
ever get round to it, I'll have umpteen useless radios (two or three in
various sheds, one in every car, two attached to the hifis etc.), which is
rather worse than a couple of tellys requiring adaptor boxes. I really can't
see people being pleased at having to fork out for new car radios at £100 a
pop. Or the pretty much sure to happen increase of desirable to DAB radios
to car theives...

Has it even been scheduled? I didn't think there was a plan yet for FM
switchoff - unlike UHF TV, of course. Car radios are the problem -
they aren't as easily modded or replaced as TVs.

Some car radios are built into the dash (into the car's SYSTEM even) are all but
totally unreplacable !

Graham

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Eeyore wrote:
Has it even been scheduled? I didn't think there was a plan yet for FM
switchoff - unlike UHF TV, of course. Car radios are the problem -
they aren't as easily modded or replaced as TVs.

Some car radios are built into the dash (into the car's SYSTEM even) are
all but totally unreplacable !

One of mine is like that - a sort of double height unit where all the
minor controls and tape player are behind a flap above basically the radio
part. Much easier to use than fiddling through menus to find balance
controls etc. But you can buy adaptor plates to allow the use of a
standard radio.

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On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 09:51:00 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Eeyore wrote:
Has it even been scheduled? I didn't think there was a plan yet for FM
switchoff - unlike UHF TV, of course. Car radios are the problem -
they aren't as easily modded or replaced as TVs.

Some car radios are built into the dash (into the car's SYSTEM even) are
all but totally unreplacable !

One of mine is like that - a sort of double height unit where all the
minor controls and tape player are behind a flap above basically the radio
part. Much easier to use than fiddling through menus to find balance
controls etc. But you can buy adaptor plates to allow the use of a
standard radio.

Mine has an extra problem, which is that it displays channel, CD track
info etc remotely on the dash in front of me. I'm pretty sure that
would cease working if I substituted another radio. And of course it
has the CD changer at the back of the car. I'm certain that would mean
a heap of trouble.

d

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On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 03:43:57 +0000, Eeyore
wrote:

Some car radios are built into the dash (into the car's SYSTEM even) are all but
totally unreplacable !

It's a rare car that won't accept a standard radio in the same slot as
the original, maybe with an adapter plate. You might even be
pleasantly surprised how many remote control functions still work -
today's standard connecter is a complex beast! Google "ISO 10487" if
you're interested.

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Don Pearce wrote:
One of mine is like that - a sort of double height unit where all the
minor controls and tape player are behind a flap above basically the
radio part. Much easier to use than fiddling through menus to find
balance controls etc. But you can buy adaptor plates to allow the use
of a standard radio.

Mine has an extra problem, which is that it displays channel, CD track
info etc remotely on the dash in front of me. I'm pretty sure that
would cease working if I substituted another radio. And of course it
has the CD changer at the back of the car. I'm certain that would mean
a heap of trouble.

It depends on the car and the popularity of replacing the head unit.
Interfaces to make this remote display - or steering wheel controls etc -
work do exist for some. You'd have to first select the head unit you're
interested in and see if they are available.

Remote CD players are less of a problem - but again not all makers use the
same protocol to drive them.

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In article , Dave Plowman (News)
scribeth thus
In article ,
Don Pearce wrote:
One of mine is like that - a sort of double height unit where all the
minor controls and tape player are behind a flap above basically the
radio part. Much easier to use than fiddling through menus to find
balance controls etc. But you can buy adaptor plates to allow the use
of a standard radio.

Mine has an extra problem, which is that it displays channel, CD track
info etc remotely on the dash in front of me. I'm pretty sure that
would cease working if I substituted another radio. And of course it
has the CD changer at the back of the car. I'm certain that would mean
a heap of trouble.

It depends on the car and the popularity of replacing the head unit.
Interfaces to make this remote display - or steering wheel controls etc -
work do exist for some. You'd have to first select the head unit you're
interested in and see if they are available.

Remote CD players are less of a problem - but again not all makers use the
same protocol to drive them.



As maybe ..

But the problem is how many people will go to all the bother to change
the factory fit units?.

They just won't bother with DAB..

And all the rep mobiles and commercials, HGV's etc aren't going to be
changed are they?..
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On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 14:02:28 +0000, tony sayer
wrote:

As maybe ..

But the problem is how many people will go to all the bother to change
the factory fit units?.

They just won't bother with DAB..

Hear hear!

d
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In article ,
tony sayer wrote:
It depends on the car and the popularity of replacing the head unit.
Interfaces to make this remote display - or steering wheel controls etc
- work do exist for some. You'd have to first select the head unit
you're interested in and see if they are available.

Remote CD players are less of a problem - but again not all makers use
the same protocol to drive them.

As maybe ..

Well you did ask. ;-)

But the problem is how many people will go to all the bother to change
the factory fit units?.

You could say the same about FM - it was perhaps 20 years before FM
receivers became common in cars. And in that case there was a very real
advantage in having them.

They just won't bother with DAB..

They might if buying a new unit for other reasons. But of course not that
many do these days.

And all the rep mobiles and commercials, HGV's etc aren't going to be
changed are they?..

Why would they be? There will be plenty warning about any switch off date
giving time for makers to fit them as standard - rep mobiles are changed
every three years or so.

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Don Pearce wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 14:02:28 +0000, tony sayer
wrote:

As maybe ..

But the problem is how many people will go to all the bother to change
the factory fit units?.

They just won't bother with DAB..

Hear hear!

Well I did when buying a new radio for the old car and think it was worth
it. The reception round London is far better than FM - and without that
annoying multi-path distortion that plagues mobile FM reception. Which to
me in a car sounds far worse than low bitrates on DAB.

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