Dear all,

A friend of mine suggested using QED silver Anniversary XT for my
speaker cables. Having used Chords Chameleons for interconnects I have
some how developed a soft corner for Chord Company cables.

Any suggestions on which of the Chord speaker cables would match the
rave reviews and sound quality of QED Silvers?

Regards Max

max graff wrote:
Dear all,

A friend of mine suggested using QED silver Anniversary XT for my
speaker cables. Having used Chords Chameleons for interconnects I have
some how developed a soft corner for Chord Company cables.

Any suggestions on which of the Chord speaker cables would match the
rave reviews and sound quality of QED Silvers?


Oh dear.

This usenet group is a place which inhabitants occasionally declare

1. All CD players sound the same.
2. All Cables sound the same.
3. All Amplifiers sound the same.
4. All DACs sound the same.
5. Russ Andrews is a crook.

If you like the build and feel of the Chord cables, then in theory going
on the above, the *cheapest* of the Chords would run a good match
against the QED - if the terminations are made well. Equally, going on
the above, standard cut lengths of electrical cable from woolworths will
be a good match.

Now having stated the above nonsense*, I did some messing about with
electrical cable, Maplin 79'ish strand, Gale something thick looking
like VHF ribbon cable, and QED silver anniversary. And I'm happy to
report QED silver anniversary is compatible with my ears and well-being
(and reportedly doesn't fall plague to tarnishing problems with other
metal contacts)

It's a personal thing though, try some cheapo mains cable before you get
wrapped up in this cable thing.

* - except, yes, Russ Andrews IS a crook.
http://www.asa.org.uk/asa/adjudications/Public/TF_ADJ_44177.htm

--
Adrian C

max graff wrote:

Dear all,

A friend of mine suggested using QED silver Anniversary XT for my
speaker cables.

Bwahahahahahahaaa !

Why ?

Do you believe in voodoo ?

Graham

In article , Adrian C
wrote:
max graff wrote:
Dear all,

A friend of mine suggested using QED silver Anniversary XT for my
speaker cables. Having used Chords Chameleons for interconnects I have
some how developed a soft corner for Chord Company cables.

Any suggestions on which of the Chord speaker cables would match the
rave reviews and sound quality of QED Silvers?


Oh dear.

This usenet group is a place which inhabitants occasionally declare

1. All CD players sound the same.

More often they may say that most produce indistinguishable results in
normal use or make a 'difference' so small as to be irrelevant.


2. All Cables sound the same.

As above. :-)

3. All Amplifiers sound the same.

As above. :-)

4. All DACs sound the same.

As above. :-)


5. Russ Andrews is a crook.

Ahem. You may say that, but I could not possibly comment. ;-

* - except, yes, Russ Andrews IS a crook.
http://www.asa.org.uk/asa/adjudications/Public/TF_ADJ_44177.htm

Good heavens. :-)

Slainte,

Jim

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Adrian C wrote:
max graff wrote:
Dear all,

A friend of mine suggested using QED silver Anniversary XT for my
speaker cables. Having used Chords Chameleons for interconnects I have
some how developed a soft corner for Chord Company cables.

Any suggestions on which of the Chord speaker cables would match the
rave reviews and sound quality of QED Silvers?


Oh dear.

This usenet group is a place which inhabitants occasionally declare

1. All CD players sound the same.
2. All Cables sound the same.
3. All Amplifiers sound the same.
4. All DACs sound the same.
5. Russ Andrews is a crook.

The usual statement for 2 is
"All cables with the same lumped parameter values for L,C and R sound
the same."
And for 4
"All competently designed amplifiers used within their design limits ... "

There are plenty of people here who can advise on how to set up tests
to demonstrate the differences between equipment.
There are also plenty of people who refuse to do any such tests and say that
two devices are like chalk and cheese so tests are unnecessary.

--
Eiron.

"Owain" wrote in message
...

[1] Actually, proper "bell wire" - the solid stuff that should be used for
wiring electric bells in good-class work, not the flimsy flex stuff -
would be pretty good for speaker use, I would have thought.

The most important factor in speaker wire is the resistance, which equates
to cross-sectional area of the copper. And solid-cored wire of sufficient
CSA for anything other than very short runs would be unmanagbly stiff for
normal use.

David.

Owain wrote:

Jim Lesurf wrote:
This usenet group is a place which inhabitants occasionally declare
2. All Cables sound the same.
As above. :-)

I have heard the difference - between bell wire[1] and Proper Stuff.

Well yes you will because the resistance will be different.

However you don't need silver plated wire and a fancy brand to get lower
resistance, just a thicker gauge of wire.

Graham

In article , Owain
wrote:
Jim Lesurf wrote:
This usenet group is a place which inhabitants occasionally declare
2. All Cables sound the same.
As above. :-)

I have heard the difference - between bell wire[1] and Proper Stuff. And
it's worthwhile extra expenditure. But IMHO mains cable is sufficiently
proper stuff for the more expensive stuff not to be necessary.

Be interested to know if your comparison was done in a level matched
comparison, and with a protocol that also excluded other well-known factors
that can easily cause audible differences but have zero to do with the
cable. Also what level of statistical significance your results had if
your method permitted this.

As you may know, various comparison tests have shown that human hearing
is affected by being exposed to sound, so even the same sound played twice
will tend to sound different on the second occasion to the first. This is
so even ignoring other factors like slight head movements, etc. For this
reason it is easy to do a test that produces a 'difference' for reasons
that are not those assumed unless the comparison is appropriately done.

I have occasionally heard 'differences' which correlated with simple things
like excessive resistance or inductance. Also examples of where a cable
caused the amp to oscillate. Otherwise, any 'differences' turned out to
either evaporate when checked, or seemed to be for other reasons which
didn't involve the cables.

3. All Amplifiers sound the same.
As above. :-)

Nonono, some amplifiers sound *different*. This is not, of course, the
same as better or worse.

Same with cables, if they do actually sound different, of course.

Your last phrase is the vital one. :-)

Slainte,

Jim

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"max graff" wrote in message
...
Dear all,

A friend of mine suggested using QED silver Anniversary XT for my
speaker cables. Having used Chords Chameleons for interconnects I have
some how developed a soft corner for Chord Company cables.

Any suggestions on which of the Chord speaker cables would match the
rave reviews and sound quality of QED Silvers?

Regards Max

Power amps provide varying audio currents to feed passive loudspeakers.
All you need to link the two items efficiently and faithfully are thick
copper cables, each leg taking at least 20Amp, installed as short as
comfortable.
Period!!
L/S-cable hype has been going on for over 30 years.
There are a lot of snake-oil promoters out there, eager to take your dosh
flogging some fancy-named, beautifully packaged alternatives, so famous that
I can't /shan't remember their names.

I have the same philosophy for low- and line-level interconnects -- use
decent, everyday screened cables, whether balanced or unbalanced.
Just splash out on active circuitry.
Jim

On 30 Mar, 01:13, max graff wrote:
Dear all,

A friend of mine suggested using QED silver Anniversary XT for my
speaker cables. Having used Chords Chameleons for interconnects I have
some how developed a soft corner for Chord Company cables.

Any suggestions on which of the Chord speaker cables would match the
rave reviews and sound quality of QED Silvers?

Regards Max

Max,
This is the wrong place I'm afraid to ask that kind of question as the
guys that frequent most of this group believe that if you can't
measure it then you can't hear it. NOT my belief so I will give you my
opinion. Having used a lot of cables over the years, I have found that
most silver coated type cables can have a brighter more forward sound
which suits some tastes but not all. The all copper types tend to be
more neutral.I know that I will now get a plethora of posts telling me
how wrong MY OPINION is but there you go.

regards,
Borosteve.