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borosteve wrote:
On 30 Mar, 01:13, max graff wrote:
Dear all,
A friend of mine suggested using QED silver Anniversary XT for my
speaker cables. Having used Chords Chameleons for interconnects I have
some how developed a soft corner for Chord Company cables.
Any suggestions on which of the Chord speaker cables would match the
rave reviews and sound quality of QED Silvers?
Regards Max
Max, This is the wrong place I'm afraid to ask that kind of question as
the guys that frequent most of this group believe that if you can't
measure it then you can't hear it.
Can't speak for anyone else. But that would certainly misrepresent my own
assessment of the issue.
AIUI The assessable evidence is clear enough.
That when:
1) You arrange for the comparisons to be done in a way that controls or
excludes or otherwise deals with well know factors of other kinds. (e.g
being the changes in hearing physiology produced to exposure to sound which
may cause someone to hear the *same* sound when repeated as being
'different')
2) You level match and do the test so that the decisions are based on the
sounds alone.
3) You do the comparisons in a way that allows for statistical assessment.
The the results I have seen (and when I have done such comparisons) are
that people generally fail to show any ability to consistently hear
'differences' between cables except those associated with well-known
factors - e.g being a significant change in series resistance or inductance
for LS cables that changes the frequency response.
The point of (1) and (2) is to avoid simple mistakes which otherwise lead
people to decide that a 'difference' was for a reason other than the actual
one.
Of course, if you cannae be bothered to do 1/2/3 nor understand what
factors may make the results misleading and deal with them, then you can
easily 'hear a difference' and decide it was due to a change of cable, when
it might have been for a number of other reasons.
Since - in my experience at least - most of the 'reviews' in magazines and
the tests reported by cable vendors fail to deal with 1/2/3. And most of
the 'home comparisons' people have reported here also fail to do so, their
results don't really provide us with reliable evidence that the conclusions
stand up. Thus they tell us what the reporter *thinks* is the case, not
provide any evidence if this assertion is well founded, or a simple
mistake.
If anything, my experience is quite the contrary of your assertion. That it
is easy to measure differences which then listeners show no reliable sign
of being to hear. :-)
I have, of course, seen many assertions and claims based on uncontrolled or
inapproriate 'comparisons' that are then accompanied by no assessable
evidence other than the assertion. But rather than dealing in such
'beliefs' I tend to fall back on relying upon the actual assessable
evidence - including my own experience and that of others when I have tried
things out on them.
NOT my belief so I will give you my opinion. Having used a lot of cables
over the years, I have found that most silver coated type cables can
have a brighter more forward sound which suits some tastes but not all.
The all copper types tend to be more neutral.I know that I will now get
a plethora of posts telling me how wrong MY OPINION is but there you go.
Can't comment on your 'opinion'. Can only ask what evidence you have that
anyone else could assess to determine
A) its statistical significance
B) the risk that any 'difference' was for some reason other than the change
of cables. e.g. you moved your head slightly, or something else changed
like a change in your hearing physiology due to exposure to previous
sounds, etc, etc.
The problem, therefore is that although you introduce words like 'belief'
and 'opinion' I personally prefer to decide on the basis of assessable
evidence. Not on what beliefs or opinions others may have, or the
assertions they make. People believe all kinds of things, often
contradicting one another when doing so. Hence that isn't much use for
determining which views are reliable or accurate. Just for knowing what
their *believe* to be so, irrespective of if it is as they think.
Simple enough, I think. :-)
Slainte,
Jim
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