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A one-time boss of mine used to refer contemptuously to "bull****
generators". It seems the description of this amplifier was created by one.

For example what does:

quote

It delivers music with the usual "arrogance" and glance you might expect
from a tube amp. Yet it totally lacks the tube laziness and tendency to make
me fall sleep.

unquote

mean?, anything? What does "arrogance" sound like, or "glance" (sic) ? And
apparently most tube amplifiers not only have "arrogance", but also
"laziness", what does *that* sound like?. As for the writer falling asleep,
I can think of 1001 reasons why he might do that, but I can't for the life
of me think of any reason why the amplifier (as distinct from the music)
should be one of them.

And then we have the comment that it was: "hand built" and all circuits are
"hard wired". Well in 1958 consumer electronic items *were* hand built,
that's just the way things were, it confers no benefit. And I dispute that
all circuits are "hard-wired" as the valves plug in.

I do get really irritated by this sort of overblown meaningless twaddle.

David.

"David Looser" wrote in message
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"Niels H" wrote in message
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More info and photos at
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=230261311133

A one-time boss of mine used to refer contemptuously to "bull****
generators". It seems the description of this amplifier was created by
one.

For example what does:

quote

It delivers music with the usual "arrogance" and glance you might expect
from a tube amp. Yet it totally lacks the tube laziness and tendency to
make me fall sleep.

unquote

mean?, anything? What does "arrogance" sound like, or "glance" (sic) ?
And apparently most tube amplifiers not only have "arrogance", but also
"laziness", what does *that* sound like?. As for the writer falling
asleep, I can think of 1001 reasons why he might do that, but I can't for
the life of me think of any reason why the amplifier (as distinct from the
music) should be one of them.

And then we have the comment that it was: "hand built" and all circuits
are "hard wired". Well in 1958 consumer electronic items *were* hand
built, that's just the way things were, it confers no benefit. And I
dispute that all circuits are "hard-wired" as the valves plug in.

I do get really irritated by this sort of overblown meaningless twaddle.

David.



Hear, Hear!. I wish I had the proverbial Penny for every time somebody
writes similar twaddle describing audio equipment. What is "Pace", "Speed"
"Drive" and all the other meaningless terms seen in reviews and here on News
Groups.

Audio is Engineering, and should be referred to in Engineering terms that
make some sense.

S.
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http://audiopages.googlepages.com

Serge Auckland wrote:

"David Looser" wrote in message
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"Niels H" wrote in message
k...

More info and photos at
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=230261311133

A one-time boss of mine used to refer contemptuously to "bull****
generators". It seems the description of this amplifier was created by
one.

For example what does:

quote

It delivers music with the usual "arrogance" and glance you might
expect from a tube amp. Yet it totally lacks the tube laziness and
tendency to make me fall sleep.

unquote

mean?, anything? What does "arrogance" sound like, or "glance" (sic) ?
And apparently most tube amplifiers not only have "arrogance", but
also "laziness", what does *that* sound like?. As for the writer
falling asleep, I can think of 1001 reasons why he might do that, but
I can't for the life of me think of any reason why the amplifier (as
distinct from the music) should be one of them.

And then we have the comment that it was: "hand built" and all
circuits are "hard wired". Well in 1958 consumer electronic items
*were* hand built, that's just the way things were, it confers no
benefit. And I dispute that all circuits are "hard-wired" as the
valves plug in.

I do get really irritated by this sort of overblown meaningless twaddle.

David.



Hear, Hear!. I wish I had the proverbial Penny for every time somebody
writes similar twaddle describing audio equipment. What is "Pace",
"Speed" "Drive" and all the other meaningless terms seen in reviews and
here on News Groups.

Audio is Engineering, and should be referred to in Engineering terms
that make some sense.


Ahem - audio *equipment* is engineered. You're doing pretty well if you
can describe audio in general, and music in particular, in engineering
terms. The odd flowery adjective can be forgiven to describe music, I feel.

Rob

"Rob" wrote in message
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Ahem - audio *equipment* is engineered.

Indeed, and a Leak Stereo 20 *is* an item of audio *equipment*.

You're doing pretty well if you can describe audio in general, and music
in particular, in engineering terms.

The OP wasn't describing music, he was describing a piece of equipment.

The odd flowery adjective can be forgiven to describe music, I feel.

I wasn't objecting to "the odd flowery adjective", I was objecting to
stuff that's clearly designed to impress the gullible, but actually means
bugger all. (and the OP *wasn't* describing music!)


David.

"David Looser"
"Rob"

Ahem - audio *equipment* is engineered.

Indeed, and a Leak Stereo 20 *is* an item of audio *equipment*.

You're doing pretty well if you can describe audio in general, and music
in particular, in engineering terms.

The OP wasn't describing music, he was describing a piece of equipment.

The odd flowery adjective can be forgiven to describe music, I feel.

I wasn't objecting to "the odd flowery adjective", I was objecting to
stuff that's clearly designed to impress the gullible, but actually means
bugger all. (and the OP *wasn't* describing music!)


** What you fail to realise, it that the OP was neither talking about an
amplifier nor music.




....... Phil

** What you fail to realise, it that the OP was neither talking about an amplifier nor music. Phil-

I couldn't agree more. This fine and upstanding Danish gentleman was
choosing amongst his schooltime memories of english adjectives. If
he'd had a higher mark in English instead of playing too much
football, he would have been able to say "magistery and gleam" instead
of "arrogance and glance".

Don't diss the Danes - they give us bacon, mermaids and Sandi
Toksvig.

Mind you, they did also invent the story of the Emperor's New
Clothes.........

Andy Evans

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Andy Evans wrote:
** What you fail to realise, it that the OP was neither talking about an amplifier nor music. Phil-

I couldn't agree more. This fine and upstanding Danish gentleman was
choosing amongst his schooltime memories of english adjectives. If
he'd had a higher mark in English instead of playing too much
football, he would have been able to say "magistery and gleam" instead
of "arrogance and glance".

Don't diss the Danes - they give us bacon, mermaids and Sandi
Toksvig.

Mind you, they did also invent the story of the Emperor's New
Clothes.........

Have you seen his other ads using the same sort of descriptions? When I
see these I wonder just why he wants to sell them - as they obviously
can't be improved upon...

A bit like our sadly missed Keithie. ;-)

--
*Do infants enjoy infancy as much as adults enjoy adultery? *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

I wonder just why he wants to sell them - as they obviously
can't be improved upon...

A bit like our sadly missed Keithie. ;-)


~ I'm out of touch - sadly missed - what happened?

 Andy Evans wrote:
I wonder just why he wants to sell them - as they obviously
can't be improved upon...

A bit like our sadly missed Keithie. ;-)


~ I'm out of touch - sadly missed - what happened?

Nothing serious - he became a 100% motorbike nut.

d