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TCI Cobra interconnects against Chord Chameleon



 
 
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Old July 16th 08, 12:38 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
borosteve
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Default TCI Cobra interconnects against Chord Chameleon

On 11 Jul, 10:18, max graff wrote:
Dear all,

I have been using the adorable Chord Company interconnects and speaker
cables for a while. Has anyone reviewed TCI Cobra interconnects
against the Chameleons? If so I would like to know your experiences.

Cheers Max


HI Max,
As soon as I saw this I thought "oh no,cringe moment!" You are in the
wrong place to ask this type of question!Most of the main contributors
are in denial that such things as cable quality and design can, God
forbid, change or improve the sound of a system.
Don't waste your time here.
Good luck,
Borosteve.
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Old July 16th 08, 12:44 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Arny Krueger
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Default TCI Cobra interconnects against Chord Chameleon

"borosteve" wrote in message


On 11 Jul, 10:18, max graff wrote:


I have been using the adorable Chord Company
interconnects and speaker cables for a while. Has anyone
reviewed TCI Cobra interconnects against the Chameleons?
If so I would like to know your experiences.



As soon as I saw this I thought "oh no,cringe moment!"


You are in the wrong place to ask this type of
question!


Actually, his question was timely and appropriate. Max has obviously been
taken in by magic wire mysticism.

Most of the main contributors are in denial that
such things as cable quality and design can, God forbid,
change or improve the sound of a system.


Shows how much that we say goes over your head, Steve.

Poor cable quality and design can hurt the sound of a system. I think about
all those of people who spent the big bucks on vastly overpriced Monster
Cable 18 gauge speaker cables and the inflated claims that were made for
them at the point of purchase. They could have bought commodity 12 gauge at
a nearby home improvement store or a good electronics store like Maplin.
They would have got better sound, and left a little money in the bank for
new recordings. But, they were sucked in by the Monster Cable branding.




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Old July 16th 08, 01:16 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Eeyore
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Default TCI Cobra interconnects against Chord Chameleon



borosteve wrote:

max graff wrote:
Dear all,

I have been using the adorable Chord Company interconnects and speaker
cables for a while. Has anyone reviewed TCI Cobra interconnects
against the Chameleons? If so I would like to know your experiences.

Cheers Max


HI Max,
As soon as I saw this I thought "oh no,cringe moment!" You are in the
wrong place to ask this type of question!Most of the main contributors
are in denial that such things as cable quality and design can, God
forbid, change or improve the sound of a system.


Improve ?

They can unquestionably affect the frequency response, well for speaker
cables at least ! That's plain physics.

It's also plain physics that component interconnects CANNOT affect the sound
ONE BIT unless the equipment concerned is inappropriately engineered or
defectively designed. The use of valves (tubes) would be a case in point
with their typical high output impedance and hence sensitivity to cable
capacitance.

It's really very simple. Audio pros have known all this for many decades.

Graham

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Old July 16th 08, 01:25 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Arny Krueger
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Default TCI Cobra interconnects against Chord Chameleon

"Eeyore" wrote in
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It's also plain physics that component interconnects
CANNOT affect the sound ONE BIT unless the equipment
concerned is inappropriately engineered or defectively
designed. The use of valves (tubes) would be a case in
point with their typical high output impedance and hence
sensitivity to cable capacitance.


It's really very simple. Audio pros have known all this
for many decades.


One of the big ironies of life is that pros use pro equipment built and
wired to pro standards to make the vast majority of all recordings. If
so-called bad wiring hurts sound quality, then the damage is done in spades
on the recording/distribution side.

Some consumers have been sold a bill of goods about how an expensive 8 foot
power cord or a 1 meter interconnect can somehow undo the effects of miles
of power line and 100s of feet and many runs of signal cabling.

No harm was done by the wire, so nothing needs to be done to fix it.


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Old July 16th 08, 02:13 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman (News)
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Default TCI Cobra interconnects against Chord Chameleon

In article ,
Arny Krueger wrote:
One of the big ironies of life is that pros use pro equipment built and
wired to pro standards to make the vast majority of all recordings. If
so-called bad wiring hurts sound quality, then the damage is done in
spades on the recording/distribution side.


Some consumers have been sold a bill of goods about how an expensive 8
foot power cord or a 1 meter interconnect can somehow undo the effects
of miles of power line and 100s of feet and many runs of signal cabling.


No harm was done by the wire, so nothing needs to be done to fix it.


Don't be silly. True audiophiles don't listen to commercial recordings.
They have their material delivered direct from the planet Zog to make sure
it is truly oxygen free.

--
*Why is it that most nudists are people you don't want to see naked?*

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Old July 17th 08, 06:06 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
keithr
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...

No harm was done by the wire, so nothing needs to be done to fix it.

In that case why were you arguing in a previous thread that balanced lines
were superior to unbalanced ones in normal home ( 2m) interconnects.

Keith


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Old July 17th 08, 11:37 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Arny Krueger
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"keithr" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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No harm was done by the wire, so nothing needs to be
done to fix it.


In that case why were you arguing in a previous thread
that balanced lines were superior to unbalanced ones in
normal home ( 2m) interconnects.


That discussion was about interface circuitry, not cable. One of the goals
of using balanced I/O is to remove the characteristics of the interconnect
as far as is reasonably possible.

BTW I recently had a situation where the line receiver circuitry in a piece
of equipment failed, and the interface became unbalanced. Signal passed
regardless because one side was still passing signal well. But there was no
cancellation of noise. Dynamic range was basically so poor as to be
unusable. When replaced with a correctly-operating line receiver, all was
well. The cable length that caused excess noise when unbalanced was 3 feet.
The cable length that was quiet when balanced operation was restored ranged
from 3 feet to 150 feet.


 




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