Stewart Pinkerton wrote:
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 00:13:50 +0000, Ian Molton wrote:


On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:41:53 GMT
(Stewart Pinkerton) wrote:


Likely the damping effect of the Plasrticene was more important than
the mass.

Er, damping is a function of mass...


Er, no it isn't....

Church bells are pretty massive!

Good example, I suspect he was thinking of inertia, not damping, two
different things. Inertia will however have a effect on any resonance
frequency (tries to remember applied maths lectures).

--
Nick

On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:44:39 +0000, Ian Molton wrote:

On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 07:57:04 GMT
(Stewart Pinkerton) wrote:

Er, damping is a function of mass...

Er, no it isn't....

Church bells are pretty massive!

Thats resonance, not damping.

Everything has a natural resonant frequency, and bells try to avoid
damping that resonannce, i.e. they have a high 'Q'. Mass has *nothing*
to do with damping, which is a resistive function.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:44:39 +0000, Ian Molton wrote:

On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 07:57:04 GMT
(Stewart Pinkerton) wrote:

Er, damping is a function of mass...

Er, no it isn't....

Church bells are pretty massive!

Thats resonance, not damping.

Everything has a natural resonant frequency, and bells try to avoid
damping that resonannce, i.e. they have a high 'Q'. Mass has *nothing*
to do with damping, which is a resistive function.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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You continual rantings about 'Snake Oil' constantly overlook the fact
that the Placebo Effect cannot be discounted when other people
happily spend their money on things *you* might consider poor value
for money.

That's OUR argument - that the placebo effect cannot be discounted.



OK folks, I'm busy raking up leaves and it's buggin' me - who's this tit
referring to?

OUR???

His family? He and his little dingly mate? Merkins generally??

(Or have I just been suckered into revealing that I don't have anybody KF'd
atm and that I'm just ignoring him.....????)

Answers on a postcard please.......

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote in message


You continual rantings about 'Snake Oil' constantly overlook the fact
that the Placebo Effect cannot be discounted when other people
happily spend their money on things *you* might consider poor value
for money.

That's OUR argument - that the placebo effect cannot be discounted.



OK folks, I'm busy raking up leaves and it's buggin' me - who's this tit
referring to?

OUR???

His family? He and his little dingly mate? Merkins generally??

(Or have I just been suckered into revealing that I don't have anybody KF'd
atm and that I'm just ignoring him.....????)

Answers on a postcard please.......

In article ,
"Keith G" wrote:

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Keith G" wrote in message


You continual rantings about 'Snake Oil' constantly overlook the fact
that the Placebo Effect cannot be discounted when other people
happily spend their money on things *you* might consider poor value
for money.

That's OUR argument - that the placebo effect cannot be discounted.

OK folks, I'm busy raking up leaves and it's buggin' me - who's this tit
referring to?

OUR???

His family? He and his little dingly mate? Merkins generally??

(Or have I just been suckered into revealing that I don't have anybody KF'd
atm and that I'm just ignoring him.....????)

Answers on a postcard please.......

He has a club...

Stephen

In article ,
"Keith G" wrote:

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Keith G" wrote in message


You continual rantings about 'Snake Oil' constantly overlook the fact
that the Placebo Effect cannot be discounted when other people
happily spend their money on things *you* might consider poor value
for money.

That's OUR argument - that the placebo effect cannot be discounted.

OK folks, I'm busy raking up leaves and it's buggin' me - who's this tit
referring to?

OUR???

His family? He and his little dingly mate? Merkins generally??

(Or have I just been suckered into revealing that I don't have anybody KF'd
atm and that I'm just ignoring him.....????)

Answers on a postcard please.......

He has a club...

Stephen

"MiNE 109" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Keith G" wrote:

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Keith G" wrote in message


You continual rantings about 'Snake Oil' constantly overlook the
fact
that the Placebo Effect cannot be discounted when other people
happily spend their money on things *you* might consider poor value
for money.

That's OUR argument - that the placebo effect cannot be discounted.

OK folks, I'm busy raking up leaves and it's buggin' me - who's this tit
referring to?

OUR???

His family? He and his little dingly mate? Merkins generally??

(Or have I just been suckered into revealing that I don't have anybody
KF'd
atm and that I'm just ignoring him.....????)

Answers on a postcard please.......

He has a club...



He do? That's interesting - what sort of club?

"MiNE 109" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Keith G" wrote:

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Keith G" wrote in message


You continual rantings about 'Snake Oil' constantly overlook the
fact
that the Placebo Effect cannot be discounted when other people
happily spend their money on things *you* might consider poor value
for money.

That's OUR argument - that the placebo effect cannot be discounted.

OK folks, I'm busy raking up leaves and it's buggin' me - who's this tit
referring to?

OUR???

His family? He and his little dingly mate? Merkins generally??

(Or have I just been suckered into revealing that I don't have anybody
KF'd
atm and that I'm just ignoring him.....????)

Answers on a postcard please.......

He has a club...



He do? That's interesting - what sort of club?

In article ,
"Keith G" wrote:

"MiNE 109" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Keith G" wrote:

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Keith G" wrote in message


You continual rantings about 'Snake Oil' constantly overlook the
fact
that the Placebo Effect cannot be discounted when other people
happily spend their money on things *you* might consider poor value
for money.

That's OUR argument - that the placebo effect cannot be discounted.

OK folks, I'm busy raking up leaves and it's buggin' me - who's this tit
referring to?

OUR???

His family? He and his little dingly mate? Merkins generally??

(Or have I just been suckered into revealing that I don't have anybody
KF'd
atm and that I'm just ignoring him.....????)

Answers on a postcard please.......

He has a club...

He do? That's interesting - what sort of club?

http://www.pcavtech.com/abx/smwtms.htm

Not my favorite website, but I'm sure I do lots of things he's not
interested in either.

Stephen