Eeyore wrote:

" wrote:

Yet in a high resolution system, power cables.......can make a
difference.

Compared to wet string maybe.

Otherwise a properly rated power cord willl have ZERO difference.

Have you ANY IDEA how the AC mains gets mangled to produce the DC for an
amplifier ? The possibility of some ultra-linear power cord affecting it
is beyond laughable.

And I DESIGN this stuff btw, so I DO know what I'm talking about. In great
detail.

Graham


How do you reconcile this 'no difference' claim with your notion that a
clean plug can affect sound?

What would cleaning a dirty plug do to the sound?

Rob

"Rob"
Eeyore wrote:

Not to memntion that changing the lead would 'clean' the contacts in the
process which could easily have an effect.

How do you reconcile this 'no difference' claim with your notion that a
clean plug can affect sound?


** How about you make sure to post UNDER any words you are referring
o - instead of creating a false para- phrased version of your own.


What would cleaning a dirty plug do to the sound?


** Not what was previously written - is it ?

Dickhead.



....... Phil

Phil Allison wrote:
"Rob"
Eeyore wrote:

Not to memntion that changing the lead would 'clean' the contacts in the
process which could easily have an effect.

How do you reconcile this 'no difference' claim with your notion that a
clean plug can affect sound?


** How about you make sure to post UNDER any words you are referring
o - instead of creating a false para- phrased version of your own.


What would cleaning a dirty plug do to the sound?


** Not what was previously written - is it ?

Dickhead.


Potty mouth.

"Rob" wrote in message
...


How do you reconcile this 'no difference' claim with your notion that a
clean plug can affect sound?

What would cleaning a dirty plug do to the sound?


You are confusing mains power connectors with audio interconnects, it was
the later about which Graham referred to cleaning the plug. Poor contact on
audio interconnects (and on switches carrying audio) can adversely affect
sound quality.

David.

David Looser wrote:
"Rob" wrote in message
...
How do you reconcile this 'no difference' claim with your notion that a
clean plug can affect sound?

What would cleaning a dirty plug do to the sound?


You are confusing mains power connectors with audio interconnects, it was
the later about which Graham referred to cleaning the plug. Poor contact on
audio interconnects (and on switches carrying audio) can adversely affect
sound quality.


Yes, I gather, thanks.

Rob

Rob wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
" wrote:

Yet in a high resolution system, power cables.......can make a
difference.

Compared to wet string maybe.

Otherwise a properly rated power cord willl have ZERO difference.

Have you ANY IDEA how the AC mains gets mangled to produce the DC for an
amplifier ? The possibility of some ultra-linear power cord affecting it
is beyond laughable.

And I DESIGN this stuff btw, so I DO know what I'm talking about. In great
detail.


How do you reconcile this 'no difference' claim with your notion that a
clean plug can affect sound?

What would cleaning a dirty plug do to the sound?

Remove potentially rectifying oxides. Also re-tighten the connection, making it
more secure / less electrical resistance.

Graham

wrote...

What would cleaning a dirty plug do to the sound?

Remove potentially rectifying oxides. Also re-tighten the connection, making it
more secure / less electrical resistance.

I got a can of Cramolin last month and gave all my kit a good clean.
I was quite astonished at the crap that came out of the RCA sockets
on my 1979 JVC and 92ish Denon amps.I must admit I also had a go at
the pins and fuse holders on the mains plugs (as recommended by all
good Hi-Fi mags)but I was getting giddy from the fumes by then.

Can't say that I noticed any difference in the sound, but
it does give you a huge confidence boost to know that
all is optimal.

--
Ken
http://www.members.lycos.co.uk/buddyduck/

Eeyore wrote:

Rob wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
" wrote:

Yet in a high resolution system, power cables.......can make a
difference.
Compared to wet string maybe.

Otherwise a properly rated power cord willl have ZERO difference.

Have you ANY IDEA how the AC mains gets mangled to produce the DC for an
amplifier ? The possibility of some ultra-linear power cord affecting it
is beyond laughable.

And I DESIGN this stuff btw, so I DO know what I'm talking about. In great
detail.

How do you reconcile this 'no difference' claim with your notion that a
clean plug can affect sound?


I take it you don't mean mains plugs - they can be as grubby as you
like? Your post at midnight above seems to refer to mains and audio.

What would cleaning a dirty plug do to the sound?

Remove potentially rectifying oxides. Also re-tighten the connection, making it
more secure / less electrical resistance.


I was clearing out the last of the accumulated rubbish following a move
the other day, and came across some 'Goldring Magic Contact Cleaning
Fluid' - a bit of a faff involving two liquids and pipe cleaners. In
view of the fact I haven't cleaned a lead since buying it (20 odd years
ago) I might as well use it up - although i'd assume normal contact
cleaner or isopropanol alcohol would be just as good?

Rob

Rob wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
Rob wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
" wrote:

Yet in a high resolution system, power cables.......can make a
difference.
Compared to wet string maybe.

Otherwise a properly rated power cord willl have ZERO difference.

Have you ANY IDEA how the AC mains gets mangled to produce the DC for an
amplifier ? The possibility of some ultra-linear power cord affecting it
is beyond laughable.

And I DESIGN this stuff btw, so I DO know what I'm talking about. In great
detail.

How do you reconcile this 'no difference' claim with your notion that a
clean plug can affect sound?

I take it you don't mean mains plugs

You are correct in your interpretation.


- they can be as grubby as you
like? Your post at midnight above seems to refer to mains and audio.

What would cleaning a dirty plug do to the sound?

Remove potentially rectifying oxides. Also re-tighten the connection, making it
more secure / less electrical resistance.


I was clearing out the last of the accumulated rubbish following a move
the other day, and came across some 'Goldring Magic Contact Cleaning
Fluid' - a bit of a faff involving two liquids and pipe cleaners. In
view of the fact I haven't cleaned a lead since buying it (20 odd years
ago) I might as well use it up - although i'd assume normal contact
cleaner or isopropanol alcohol would be just as good?

Isopropyl will remove greases but not much else AFAIK. God only knows what's in
'contact cleaner'. I try and avoid the stuff.

Graham

Eeyore wrote:

Rob wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
Rob wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
" wrote:

Yet in a high resolution system, power cables.......can make a
difference.
Compared to wet string maybe.

Otherwise a properly rated power cord willl have ZERO difference.

Have you ANY IDEA how the AC mains gets mangled to produce the DC for an
amplifier ? The possibility of some ultra-linear power cord affecting it
is beyond laughable.

And I DESIGN this stuff btw, so I DO know what I'm talking about. In great
detail.
How do you reconcile this 'no difference' claim with your notion that a
clean plug can affect sound?
I take it you don't mean mains plugs

You are correct in your interpretation.


- they can be as grubby as you
like? Your post at midnight above seems to refer to mains and audio.

What would cleaning a dirty plug do to the sound?
Remove potentially rectifying oxides. Also re-tighten the connection, making it
more secure / less electrical resistance.

I was clearing out the last of the accumulated rubbish following a move
the other day, and came across some 'Goldring Magic Contact Cleaning
Fluid' - a bit of a faff involving two liquids and pipe cleaners. In
view of the fact I haven't cleaned a lead since buying it (20 odd years
ago) I might as well use it up - although i'd assume normal contact
cleaner or isopropanol alcohol would be just as good?

Isopropyl will remove greases but not much else AFAIK. God only knows what's in
'contact cleaner'. I try and avoid the stuff.

Graham


So it's an 'oxide remover' that's needed? Then, I suppose it depends on
the oxide, and gold is less likely to oxidise than other things, so it's
more muck removal? I'd guess you use, or would use if forced, Brasso or
somesuch?

No idea what's in the Goldring stuff, or indeed this:

http://www.cybermarket.co.uk/shopscr1655.html

which seems to work on switches, in the sense they don't crackle after
use - although the effect doesn't last forever, which might be related
to why you don't use it.

Anyway, I'll keep a look out.

Rob