"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
Iain Churches wrote:
A four pin miniature Tuchel is a good
connector for a balanced phono cartridge.
I have sen them used on several occasions
in this application.

Aren't all phono cartridges - apart from Decca - effectively balanced?

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Yes they are, and it's always been a surprise to me that with all the
audiophoolery over balanced outputs for CD players, pre-amp to power amp
etc, the one input that could usefully be balanced even in a domestic
environment, i.e. the phono input, never is, even in audiophool high-end
equipment.

S.

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"Serge Auckland" wrote in message
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
Iain Churches wrote:
A four pin miniature Tuchel is a good
connector for a balanced phono cartridge.
I have sen them used on several occasions
in this application.

Aren't all phono cartridges - apart from Decca - effectively balanced?

--
*Frankly, scallop, I don't give a clam

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Yes they are, and it's always been a surprise to me that with all the
audiophoolery over balanced outputs for CD players, pre-amp to power amp
etc, the one input that could usefully be balanced even in a domestic
environment, i.e. the phono input, never is, even in audiophool high-end
equipment.

S.
When I built the Ben Duncan/Audio Synthesis a few years ago there was the
option of balanced or unbalanced for the phono stage. I opted for balanced
but of course never had the chance to compare with unbalanced so don't know
if it made any difference to the sound. Just seemed like a good idea at the
time....

GMac

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Iain Churches wrote:
A four pin miniature Tuchel is a good
connector for a balanced phono cartridge.
I have sen them used on several occasions
in this application.

Aren't all phono cartridges - apart from Decca - effectively balanced?

Inherently yes, but they are wired unbalanced
and brought out on an RCA phono connector
except on some broadcast turntables.

Iain

"Iain Churches" wrote in message
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Iain Churches wrote:
A four pin miniature Tuchel is a good
connector for a balanced phono cartridge.
I have sen them used on several occasions
in this application.

Aren't all phono cartridges - apart from Decca - effectively balanced?

Inherently yes, but they are wired unbalanced
and brought out on an RCA phono connector
except on some broadcast turntables.

Iain


Although on many (most?) arms, the unbalancing is done at the connector
(often a 5 pin DIN) under the arm, so could easily be continued using
balanced cable and a 5 pin DIN if XLRs were considered too "pro".

S.
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"Serge Auckland" wrote in message
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"Iain Churches" wrote in message
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Iain Churches wrote:
A four pin miniature Tuchel is a good
connector for a balanced phono cartridge.
I have sen them used on several occasions
in this application.

Aren't all phono cartridges - apart from Decca - effectively balanced?

Inherently yes, but they are wired unbalanced
and brought out on an RCA phono connector
except on some broadcast turntables.

Iain


Although on many (most?) arms, the unbalancing is done at the connector
(often a 5 pin DIN) under the arm, so could easily be continued using
balanced cable and a 5 pin DIN if XLRs were considered too "pro".

S.
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Sounds familiar - I recall David Heaton (Audio Synthesis) did some rewiring
on the arm leadout - SME IV - to suit the balanced input on my AMP02.

GMac

"Serge Auckland" wrote in message
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"Iain Churches" wrote in message
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Iain Churches wrote:
A four pin miniature Tuchel is a good
connector for a balanced phono cartridge.
I have sen them used on several occasions
in this application.

Aren't all phono cartridges - apart from Decca - effectively balanced?

Inherently yes, but they are wired unbalanced
and brought out on an RCA phono connector
except on some broadcast turntables.

Iain


Although on many (most?) arms, the unbalancing is done at the connector
(often a 5 pin DIN) under the arm, so could easily be continued using
balanced cable and a 5 pin DIN if XLRs were considered too "pro".

Those miniature XLRs are nifty too, but expensive
Iain

Oddjob wrote...


Does anybody know what this is used for?
I have no encountered 4 pin DIN before.

Flashback Sales specialise in Quad/Naim/DIN cables
a description of your set can be found on the website
at.

http://www.flashbacksales.co.uk/

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Ken

http://www.members.lycos.co.uk/buddyduck/

In article , Serge Auckland
scribeth thus

"Iain Churches" wrote in message
i.fi...


"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Iain Churches wrote:
A four pin miniature Tuchel is a good
connector for a balanced phono cartridge.
I have sen them used on several occasions
in this application.

Aren't all phono cartridges - apart from Decca - effectively balanced?

Inherently yes, but they are wired unbalanced
and brought out on an RCA phono connector
except on some broadcast turntables.

Iain


Although on many (most?) arms, the unbalancing is done at the connector
(often a 5 pin DIN) under the arm, so could easily be continued using
balanced cable and a 5 pin DIN if XLRs were considered too "pro".

S.

Didn't they use to make a disc reproducer at Pye TVT back in ummm.. 1970
ish that was balanced with a transformer input, or was that a tad before
when U were there?...
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Tony Sayer

In article , Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:
In article , Iain
Churches wrote:
A four pin miniature Tuchel is a good connector for a balanced phono
cartridge. I have sen them used on several occasions in this
application.

Aren't all phono cartridges - apart from Decca - effectively balanced?

Do any of them include an electrostatic screen linked to one of the leads?
I can't recall any, but the above makes me wonder.

Slainte,

Jim

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In article , Serge Auckland
wrote:


Yes they are, and it's always been a surprise to me that with all the
audiophoolery over balanced outputs for CD players, pre-amp to power amp
etc, the one input that could usefully be balanced even in a domestic
environment, i.e. the phono input, never is, even in audiophool high-end
equipment.

Perhaps the problem here is that to really make use of balanced operation
you'd need to avoid using conventional coax and a phono/RCA socket.
Otherwise you are trying to use a balanced/symmetric source with a cable
geometry which isn't symmetric.

Slainte,

Jim

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