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Hello everyone, I have an RCA phono to 4 pin DIN cable.

The DIN end has a locking screw thread. I think this is a locking DIN
connector??

Or could be a Touchel. Once common on some mics - but not 4 pin.

Does anybody know what this is used for?
I have no encountered 4 pin DIN before.

'Twas used by Quad for power amp connection. But in that application an
adaptor for other makers would need two phonos.


Thanks for replying Dave, I have posted a picture of the leads he

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/a.cecot...s/mogami-1.htm

Looks like a Tuchel to me, rather than a DIN, but I too can't recall ever
having seen a 4 pin one.
How did you come by it?

S.
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Oddjob wrote:
Hello everyone, I have an RCA phono to 4 pin DIN cable.

The DIN end has a locking screw thread. I think this is a locking DIN
connector??

Or could be a Touchel. Once common on some mics - but not 4 pin.

Does anybody know what this is used for?
I have no encountered 4 pin DIN before.

'Twas used by Quad for power amp connection. But in that application an
adaptor for other makers would need two phonos.


Thanks for replying Dave, I have posted a picture of the leads he

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/a.cecot...s/mogami-1.htm

Looks like a Tuchel to me, rather than a DIN, but I too can't recall ever
having seen a 4 pin one.
How did you come by it?

I picked up a few leads at a local auction. There was also some Naim
equipment that I didn't manage to purchase. I was thinking it was for Naim
or perhaps Linn gear. The cable is Neglex 2534 microphone cable made by
Mogami.

What is Tuchel?

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In article ,
Oddjob wrote:
Hello everyone, I have an RCA phono to 4 pin DIN cable.

The DIN end has a locking screw thread. I think this is a locking DIN
connector??

Or could be a Touchel. Once common on some mics - but not 4 pin.

Does anybody know what this is used for?
I have no encountered 4 pin DIN before.

'Twas used by Quad for power amp connection. But in that application an
adaptor for other makers would need two phonos.


Thanks for replying Dave, I have posted a picture of the leads he

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/a.cecot...s/mogami-1.htm

Looks like a Tuchel to me, rather than a DIN, but I too can't recall ever
having seen a 4 pin one.
How did you come by it?

I picked up a few leads at a local auction. There was also some Naim
equipment that I didn't manage to purchase. I was thinking it was for Naim
or perhaps Linn gear. The cable is Neglex 2534 microphone cable made by
Mogami.

What is Tuchel?


Tuchel is a German manufacturer of connectors, now part of Amphenol
http://www.amphenol.info/en/index.shtml
They made a sort of bayonet-locking DIN connector which was used in a number
of microphones in years gone by, and they were also popular as video camera
connectors as they were available with many pins, not just four. They also
had a special type of multipole jack plug and socket used in German studio
jackfields which had the advantage of providing up to 6 poles, so could be
used for balanced stereo patching, whereas in the UK we've always used the
Post Office Tip Ring Sleeve jack in several variants (A Gauge, B Gauge,
Bantam), which could be used for unbalanced stereo or balanced mono.

It looks like someone has made up some adapter cables between Tuchel and
phono, but what for, who knows.
S.
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In article ,
Oddjob wrote:
Hello everyone, I have an RCA phono to 4 pin DIN cable.

The DIN end has a locking screw thread. I think this is a locking DIN
connector??

Or could be a Touchel. Once common on some mics - but not 4 pin.

Does anybody know what this is used for?
I have no encountered 4 pin DIN before.

'Twas used by Quad for power amp connection. But in that application
an
adaptor for other makers would need two phonos.


Thanks for replying Dave, I have posted a picture of the leads he

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/a.cecot...s/mogami-1.htm

Looks like a Tuchel to me, rather than a DIN, but I too can't recall
ever having seen a 4 pin one.
How did you come by it?

I picked up a few leads at a local auction. There was also some Naim
equipment that I didn't manage to purchase. I was thinking it was for
Naim or perhaps Linn gear. The cable is Neglex 2534 microphone cable made
by Mogami.

What is Tuchel?


Tuchel is a German manufacturer of connectors, now part of Amphenol
http://www.amphenol.info/en/index.shtml
They made a sort of bayonet-locking DIN connector which was used in a
number of microphones in years gone by, and they were also popular as
video camera connectors as they were available with many pins, not just
four. They also had a special type of multipole jack plug and socket used
in German studio jackfields which had the advantage of providing up to 6
poles, so could be used for balanced stereo patching, whereas in the UK
we've always used the Post Office Tip Ring Sleeve jack in several variants
(A Gauge, B Gauge, Bantam), which could be used for unbalanced stereo or
balanced mono.

It looks like someone has made up some adapter cables between Tuchel and
phono, but what for, who knows.
S.
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http://audiopages.googlepages.com
By the way, these connectors are shown on the web site above, and they are
compatible with DIN connectors.
S.

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Hello everyone, I have an RCA phono to 4 pin DIN cable.

The DIN end has a locking screw thread. I think this is a locking DIN
connector??

Or could be a Touchel. Once common on some mics - but not 4 pin.

Does anybody know what this is used for?
I have no encountered 4 pin DIN before.

'Twas used by Quad for power amp connection. But in that application
an
adaptor for other makers would need two phonos.


Thanks for replying Dave, I have posted a picture of the leads he

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/a.cecot...s/mogami-1.htm

Looks like a Tuchel to me, rather than a DIN, but I too can't recall
ever having seen a 4 pin one.
How did you come by it?

I picked up a few leads at a local auction. There was also some Naim
equipment that I didn't manage to purchase. I was thinking it was for
Naim or perhaps Linn gear. The cable is Neglex 2534 microphone cable made
by Mogami.

What is Tuchel?


Tuchel is a German manufacturer of connectors, now part of Amphenol
http://www.amphenol.info/en/index.shtml
They made a sort of bayonet-locking DIN connector which was used in a
number of microphones in years gone by, and they were also popular as
video camera connectors as they were available with many pins, not just
four. They also had a special type of multipole jack plug and socket used
in German studio jackfields which had the advantage of providing up to 6
poles, so could be used for balanced stereo patching, whereas in the UK
we've always used the Post Office Tip Ring Sleeve jack in several variants
(A Gauge, B Gauge, Bantam), which could be used for unbalanced stereo or
balanced mono.

It looks like someone has made up some adapter cables between Tuchel and
phono, but what for, who knows.

Thanks for that Serge, I've done some more searching and I'm coming to the
conclusion that the lead may be for connecting Naim equipment to non-Naim
equipment.
I believe that some older Naim gear used 4 pin DIN connectors. The leads
that I bought were possibly from a bankrupt audio shop or dealer and would
have been useful for demoing different equipment. Naim produce a Snaic 4
lead for something??

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Oddjob wrote:
I believe that some older Naim gear used 4 pin DIN connectors. The leads
that I bought were possibly from a bankrupt audio shop or dealer and
would have been useful for demoing different equipment. Naim produce a
Snaic 4 lead for something??

Naim did indeed use 4 pin connectors on their early gear and IIRC it was
ring locking DIN - which would also mate with ordinary DIN plugs. There's
a third type with a latch - similar to XLRs. But I'm pretty certain it was
the same as Quad - stereo - on the one I remember which was an NAP 250. Of
course they may have used the same connector on their later mono amps.
Naim never did use logic. ;-)

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Naim did indeed use 4 pin connectors on their early gear and IIRC it was
ring locking DIN - which would also mate with ordinary DIN plugs. There's
a third type with a latch - similar to XLRs. But I'm pretty certain it was
the same as Quad - stereo - on the one I remember which was an NAP 250. Of
course they may have used the same connector on their later mono amps.
Naim never did use logic. ;-)

A four pin miniature Tuchel is a good
connector for a balanced phono cartridge.
I have sen them used on several occasions
in this application.

Iain

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Iain Churches wrote:
A four pin miniature Tuchel is a good
connector for a balanced phono cartridge.
I have sen them used on several occasions
in this application.

Aren't all phono cartridges - apart from Decca - effectively balanced?

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What is Tuchel?


Tuchel is a German manufacturer of connectors, now part of Amphenol
http://www.amphenol.info/en/index.shtml
They made a sort of bayonet-locking DIN connector which was used in a
number of microphones in years gone by, and they were also popular as
video camera connectors as they were available with many pins, not just
four. They also had a special type of multipole jack plug and socket used
in German studio jackfields which had the advantage of providing up to 6
poles, so could be used for balanced stereo patching, whereas in the UK
we've always used the Post Office Tip Ring Sleeve jack in several variants
(A Gauge, B Gauge, Bantam), which could be used for unbalanced stereo or
balanced mono.


The ability to have a pair of balanced inputs or one set of inputs
and outputs on one connector, made the Tuchel versatile.
You could patch the input and output of a compressor
with just one cable. In addition, the blades which made
up the conducting surface on the female socket
were spring loaded so pushing in the connector performed
a cleaning action. They were incredibly reliable.

Iain

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What is Tuchel?


Tuchel is a German manufacturer of connectors, now part of Amphenol
http://www.amphenol.info/en/index.shtml
They made a sort of bayonet-locking DIN connector which was used in a
number of microphones in years gone by, and they were also popular as
video camera connectors as they were available with many pins, not just
four. They also had a special type of multipole jack plug and socket used
in German studio jackfields which had the advantage of providing up to 6
poles, so could be used for balanced stereo patching, whereas in the UK
we've always used the Post Office Tip Ring Sleeve jack in several
variants
(A Gauge, B Gauge, Bantam), which could be used for unbalanced stereo or
balanced mono.


The ability to have a pair of balanced inputs or one set of inputs
and outputs on one connector, made the Tuchel versatile.
You could patch the input and output of a compressor
with just one cable. In addition, the blades which made
up the conducting surface on the female socket
were spring loaded so pushing in the connector performed
a cleaning action. They were incredibly reliable.

Iain



Yes they were, but the benefit of half-normalled jackfields (or even fully
normalled) to my mind outweighed the benefits of the Tuchel. It's
interesting (at least to me who's a bit strange in these matters) that the
BBC have chosen the Swiss Ghielmetti patch panels that provide similar
reliability to the Tuchel, plus the ability to insert and/or monitor on the
same panel like a normalled or semi-normalled PO jackfield. These are now in
use at Bush House and the refurbished Broadcasting House.

S.
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