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LS Cables - Transmission Line vs Lumped Element



 
 
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Old September 1st 08, 03:03 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Patrick Turner
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Default LS Cables - Transmission Line vs Lumped Element



Phil Allison wrote:

"Dave Plowman ( ****WIT MORON )"

Phil Allison

And if the enamel wire can be tinned with a hot soldering iron, then
its fragile enamel,



** That is complete ********.


Anyone who tries soldering enamelled wire without first removing the
enamel by other means is a complete pratt.


** ROTFLMAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YOU are a 100%, total, know nothing ****ing MORON !!

Go look up: " self fluxing polyurethane wire "' sometime.

Designed to be tinned by solder pot dipping or the use of a hot soldering
iron.

You dumb as a dead dog POSTURING POMMY ASS !!!!!!

...... Phil


But the poluruethane enamel wire isn't the best type of enamelled wire
to use
where you want something rugged, and prone to being trodden on, and
yanked and wracked around at terminals.

Most of the amplifier failures I get to repair are from shorted speaker
cables.

Feel free to use the polyurethane if YOU want, but I won't, OK.

As you said, the small coil of wire which is a choke of say 10uH
in series with the amp and speaker cables should solve capacitance
bothers.
But most ppl would add a resistance of say 10 ohms in parallel with the
choke to damp the
LC resonant circuit you'd get if a speaker cable with high C is shorted
at the speakers.

Many (but not all) SS amps have the L&R as a standard feature, and have
done for 40 years
after makers woke up about how easy it was to stuff a transistor amp
right up.

Patrick Turner
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Old September 1st 08, 03:08 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Patrick Turner
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Default LS Cables - Transmission Line vs Lumped Element



"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

In article ,
Phil Allison wrote:
Anyone who tries soldering enamelled wire without first removing the
enamel by other means is a complete pratt.


** ROTFLMAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


YOU are a 100%, total, know nothing ****ing MORON !!


Go look up: " self fluxing polyurethane wire "' sometime.


Don't think polyurathene wire would be much use as a conductor, pet


Its quite sufficient for applications where heat is negligible and there
is no mechanical stresses; Ie, in speaker crossover coils
and other coils used in many apps.

Designed to be tinned by solder pot dipping or the use of a hot
soldering iron.


Everyone keeps a solder pot on the boil, I suppose, my little forensically
challenged colonial.


Somebody making a batch of speaker cabling to the Tocord
model may well have a hot solder pot for the workers.

DIYers wouldn't.



You dumb as a dead dog POSTURING POMMY ASS !!!!!!


If only you'd learn the Queen's English.


Which Queen?

Plennea queens about....

Patrick Turner.

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Old September 1st 08, 03:19 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Phil Allison
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Default LS Cables - Transmission Line vs Lumped Element


"Patrick Turneroid "

But the poluruethane enamel wire isn't the best type of enamelled wire
to use where you want something rugged, and prone to being trodden on,
and yanked and wracked around at terminals.



** One pig ignorant person's utterly mad opinion

- not fact.



Most of the amplifier failures I get to repair are from shorted speaker
cables.



** Totally irrelevant, as that involves bare copper wires.


( rest of the Turneroid's mind numbing excreta flushed where it belongs)





....... Phil



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Old September 1st 08, 06:32 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman (News)
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Default LS Cables - Transmission Line vs Lumped Element

In article ,
Patrick Turner wrote:


"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

In article ,
Phil Allison wrote:
Anyone who tries soldering enamelled wire without first removing
the enamel by other means is a complete pratt.


** ROTFLMAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


YOU are a 100%, total, know nothing ****ing MORON !!


Go look up: " self fluxing polyurethane wire "' sometime.


Don't think polyurathene wire would be much use as a conductor, pet


Its quite sufficient for applications where heat is negligible and there
is no mechanical stresses; Ie, in speaker crossover coils
and other coils used in many apps.


ITYM 'polyurethane *coated* wire?


Designed to be tinned by solder pot dipping or the use of a hot
soldering iron.


Everyone keeps a solder pot on the boil, I suppose, my little
forensically challenged colonial.


Somebody making a batch of speaker cabling to the Tocord
model may well have a hot solder pot for the workers.


They might well.

DIYers wouldn't.


Indeed.

You dumb as a dead dog POSTURING POMMY ASS !!!!!!


If only you'd learn the Queen's English.


Which Queen?


Plennea queens about....


That is very true. You'd think Phil would be well up on that given his
propensities.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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Old September 2nd 08, 12:44 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Nick Gorham
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Default LS Cables - Transmission Line vs Lumped Element

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Phil Allison wrote:

Anyone who tries soldering enamelled wire without first removing the
enamel by other means is a complete pratt.




** ROTFLMAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



YOU are a 100%, total, know nothing ****ing MORON !!



Go look up: " self fluxing polyurethane wire "' sometime.



Don't think polyurathene wire would be much use as a conductor, pet


Designed to be tinned by solder pot dipping or the use of a hot
soldering iron.



Everyone keeps a solder pot on the boil, I suppose, my little forensically
challenged colonial.



Tins perfectly well with a normal iron.

--
Nick
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Old September 2nd 08, 01:13 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Phil Allison
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Default LS Cables - Transmission Line vs Lumped Element


"Nick Gorham"

Tins perfectly well with a normal iron.



** Now try doing 72 strands at once and making a solid mass of them to fit
into a banana plug.





....... Phil


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Old September 2nd 08, 01:30 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Eeyore
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Default LS Cables - Transmission Line vs Lumped Element



Nick Gorham wrote:

Tins perfectly well with a normal iron.


What temp does a 'normal' iron run at ?

Graham

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Old September 2nd 08, 05:29 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
TT
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Default LS Cables - Transmission Line vs Lumped Element


"Eeyore" wrote in
message ...


Nick Gorham wrote:

Tins perfectly well with a normal iron.


What temp does a 'normal' iron run at ?

Graham


Hi Graham, I see you pal Philthy is still running off at the
mouth. I would have expected by now you would have taken
the action you alluded to earlier.

Cheers TT


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Old September 2nd 08, 06:59 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Nick Gorham
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Default LS Cables - Transmission Line vs Lumped Element

Phil Allison wrote:

"Nick Gorham"

Tins perfectly well with a normal iron.




** Now try doing 72 strands at once and making a solid mass of them to fit
into a banana plug.





...... Phil



Yep, I take your point. I agree that in that case it would be much
better, but I was just trying to indicate that the insulation was
perfectly usable with just "normal" irons.

--
Nick
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Old September 2nd 08, 03:34 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Patrick Turner
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Default LS Cables - Transmission Line vs Lumped Element



"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

In article ,
Patrick Turner wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

In article ,
Phil Allison wrote:
Anyone who tries soldering enamelled wire without first removing
the enamel by other means is a complete pratt.

** ROTFLMAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YOU are a 100%, total, know nothing ****ing MORON !!

Go look up: " self fluxing polyurethane wire "' sometime.

Don't think polyurathene wire would be much use as a conductor, pet


Its quite sufficient for applications where heat is negligible and there
is no mechanical stresses; Ie, in speaker crossover coils
and other coils used in many apps.


ITYM 'polyurethane *coated* wire?


Designed to be tinned by solder pot dipping or the use of a hot
soldering iron.

Everyone keeps a solder pot on the boil, I suppose, my little
forensically challenged colonial.


Somebody making a batch of speaker cabling to the Tocord
model may well have a hot solder pot for the workers.


They might well.

DIYers wouldn't.


Indeed.

You dumb as a dead dog POSTURING POMMY ASS !!!!!!

If only you'd learn the Queen's English.


Which Queen?


Plennea queens about....


That is very true. You'd think Phil would be well up on that given his
propensities.


Maybe he'd try to become well up into a queen but perhaps lack enough
propensity.

Dame Edna Everage, who is Australia's closest thing to an actual Queen
of Australia,
feared what might happen if she had Phil on her show.

But the latest report is that The Dame is about to become Austrlia's
first female Govenor General.
Madge will get a job in the kitchen at the Lodge, and Sir Les Paterson
will become Her Butler.


There's a lot to ignore about Phil, but he does say some very sensible
things at times.

Patrick Turner.

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

 




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