"Patrick Turner"
"Phil Allison"

Jim Lesurf wrote:

http://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~www_pa/...g/howlong.html

Doing the usual maths on your table of cables

A = 8.5

** Cable "A" would be a woven multi-strand cable like "Tocord" - it
was
sold under other names too.

** I have placed a pic of a " Tocord " speaker lead on ABSE - since I
could not find one on the net.

There are 72 green and 72 copper coloured strands - each enamel coated
so
are all insulated. There is a central clear plastic core ( not visible in
the pic) of about 4mm diameter which the 144 strands are woven around.
The
outer sheath is only 7mm diameter and so the cable is quite flexible.

In order to fit a termination like the banana plugs shown, one must first
burn off the enamel coating with a hot soldering iron and lots of solder.



I doubt I'd ever wanna use that Tocord cable.


** Look out -

here comes a whole pile of "Turneroid" hypothetical, fabricated drivel !!!


If someone crushes the cable under a foot or something, then it'd
be easy to get a short between the different colour enamel wires woven
together.


** Simply not true.

The strands of enamelled wire are very tough and well protected by the outer
sheath and inner, soft plastic core.


And if the enamel wire can be tinned with a hot soldering iron, then its
fragile enamel,


** That is complete ********.


Most SS amps are made to tolerate pure C loads from say 0.002uF to 0.22
uf because


** And some are not - particularly some UK made hi-fi exotica.

But the problem is easy fixed by adding a small coil in series with the
amplifier's output.

20 turns of 1mm enamel wire wound on a pencil will do.



...... Phil

In article ,
Phil Allison wrote:
And if the enamel wire can be tinned with a hot soldering iron, then
its fragile enamel,


** That is complete ********.

Anyone who tries soldering enamelled wire without first removing the
enamel by other means is a complete pratt. Probably the same type who
would use - or even try such cable for LS use.

--
*Why isn't there a special name for the back of your knee?

Dave Plowman London SW
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"Dave Plowman ( ****WIT MORON )"

Phil Allison

And if the enamel wire can be tinned with a hot soldering iron, then
its fragile enamel,


** That is complete ********.

Anyone who tries soldering enamelled wire without first removing the
enamel by other means is a complete pratt.


** ROTFLMAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YOU are a 100%, total, know nothing ****ing MORON !!

Go look up: " self fluxing polyurethane wire "' sometime.

Designed to be tinned by solder pot dipping or the use of a hot soldering
iron.

You dumb as a dead dog POSTURING POMMY ASS !!!!!!





....... Phil

In article ,
Phil Allison wrote:
Anyone who tries soldering enamelled wire without first removing the
enamel by other means is a complete pratt.


** ROTFLMAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YOU are a 100%, total, know nothing ****ing MORON !!

Go look up: " self fluxing polyurethane wire "' sometime.

Don't think polyurathene wire would be much use as a conductor, pet

Designed to be tinned by solder pot dipping or the use of a hot
soldering iron.

Everyone keeps a solder pot on the boil, I suppose, my little forensically
challenged colonial.

You dumb as a dead dog POSTURING POMMY ASS !!!!!!

If only you'd learn the Queen's English.

--
*Growing old is inevitable, growing up is optional *

Dave Plowman London SW
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"Dave Plowman (MORON )"

Phil Allison

Anyone who tries soldering enamelled wire without first removing the
enamel by other means is a complete pratt.


** ROTFLMAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YOU are a 100%, total, know nothing ****ing MORON !!

Go look up: " self fluxing polyurethane wire "' sometime.


Don't think polyurathene wire would be much use as a conductor, pet


** Go look it up - you despicable arsehole.

Designed to be tinned by solder pot dipping or the use of a hot
soldering iron.

You MORONIC, LYING POMMY ASS !!!!!!





....... Phil

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

In article ,
Phil Allison wrote:
Anyone who tries soldering enamelled wire without first removing the
enamel by other means is a complete pratt.

** ROTFLMAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YOU are a 100%, total, know nothing ****ing MORON !!

Go look up: " self fluxing polyurethane wire "' sometime.

Don't think polyurathene wire would be much use as a conductor, pet

Its quite sufficient for applications where heat is negligible and there
is no mechanical stresses; Ie, in speaker crossover coils
and other coils used in many apps.

Designed to be tinned by solder pot dipping or the use of a hot
soldering iron.

Everyone keeps a solder pot on the boil, I suppose, my little forensically
challenged colonial.

Somebody making a batch of speaker cabling to the Tocord
model may well have a hot solder pot for the workers.

DIYers wouldn't.



You dumb as a dead dog POSTURING POMMY ASS !!!!!!

If only you'd learn the Queen's English.

Which Queen?

Plennea queens about....

Patrick Turner.

--
*Growing old is inevitable, growing up is optional *

Dave Plowman London SW
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In article ,
Patrick Turner wrote:


"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

In article ,
Phil Allison wrote:
Anyone who tries soldering enamelled wire without first removing
the enamel by other means is a complete pratt.

** ROTFLMAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YOU are a 100%, total, know nothing ****ing MORON !!

Go look up: " self fluxing polyurethane wire "' sometime.

Don't think polyurathene wire would be much use as a conductor, pet

Its quite sufficient for applications where heat is negligible and there
is no mechanical stresses; Ie, in speaker crossover coils
and other coils used in many apps.

ITYM 'polyurethane *coated* wire?


Designed to be tinned by solder pot dipping or the use of a hot
soldering iron.

Everyone keeps a solder pot on the boil, I suppose, my little
forensically challenged colonial.

Somebody making a batch of speaker cabling to the Tocord
model may well have a hot solder pot for the workers.

They might well.

DIYers wouldn't.

Indeed.

You dumb as a dead dog POSTURING POMMY ASS !!!!!!

If only you'd learn the Queen's English.

Which Queen?

Plennea queens about....

That is very true. You'd think Phil would be well up on that given his
propensities.

--
*Everyone has a photographic memory. Some just don't have film*

Dave Plowman London SW
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

In article ,
Patrick Turner wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

In article ,
Phil Allison wrote:
Anyone who tries soldering enamelled wire without first removing
the enamel by other means is a complete pratt.

** ROTFLMAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YOU are a 100%, total, know nothing ****ing MORON !!

Go look up: " self fluxing polyurethane wire "' sometime.

Don't think polyurathene wire would be much use as a conductor, pet

Its quite sufficient for applications where heat is negligible and there
is no mechanical stresses; Ie, in speaker crossover coils
and other coils used in many apps.

ITYM 'polyurethane *coated* wire?


Designed to be tinned by solder pot dipping or the use of a hot
soldering iron.

Everyone keeps a solder pot on the boil, I suppose, my little
forensically challenged colonial.

Somebody making a batch of speaker cabling to the Tocord
model may well have a hot solder pot for the workers.

They might well.

DIYers wouldn't.

Indeed.

You dumb as a dead dog POSTURING POMMY ASS !!!!!!

If only you'd learn the Queen's English.

Which Queen?

Plennea queens about....

That is very true. You'd think Phil would be well up on that given his
propensities.

Maybe he'd try to become well up into a queen but perhaps lack enough
propensity.

Dame Edna Everage, who is Australia's closest thing to an actual Queen
of Australia,
feared what might happen if she had Phil on her show.

But the latest report is that The Dame is about to become Austrlia's
first female Govenor General.
Madge will get a job in the kitchen at the Lodge, and Sir Les Paterson
will become Her Butler.


There's a lot to ignore about Phil, but he does say some very sensible
things at times.

Patrick Turner.

--
*Everyone has a photographic memory. Some just don't have film*

Dave Plowman London SW
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Phil Allison wrote:

Anyone who tries soldering enamelled wire without first removing the
enamel by other means is a complete pratt.



** ROTFLMAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


YOU are a 100%, total, know nothing ****ing MORON !!


Go look up: " self fluxing polyurethane wire "' sometime.


Don't think polyurathene wire would be much use as a conductor, pet


Designed to be tinned by solder pot dipping or the use of a hot
soldering iron.


Everyone keeps a solder pot on the boil, I suppose, my little forensically
challenged colonial.



Tins perfectly well with a normal iron.

--
Nick

"Nick Gorham"

Tins perfectly well with a normal iron.


** Now try doing 72 strands at once and making a solid mass of them to fit
into a banana plug.





....... Phil