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The strangest thing happened to me yesterday.
I was sitting on my bed and rested my head (the temple) on my hand and I could hear a buzzing. Now, I'd had a bad headache a few days before but it didn't sound like the tinnitus associated with it. So, I removed my head from my hand and the sound stopped. Then the penny dropped, you can get bone conduction hearing. Sure enough it was the 11W CFL lamp in my bedside light about 2-3 feet away. If I put my ear up close to it I could hear exactly the same sound. Is that curious or what ? Graham |
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"Eeyore" wrote in message ... The strangest thing happened to me yesterday. I was sitting on my bed and rested my head (the temple) on my hand and I could hear a buzzing. Now, I'd had a bad headache a few days before but it didn't sound like the tinnitus associated with it. So, I removed my head from my hand and the sound stopped. Then the penny dropped, you can get bone conduction hearing. Sure enough it was the 11W CFL lamp in my bedside light about 2-3 feet away. If I put my ear up close to it I could hear exactly the same sound. Is that curious or what ? Graham Not particularly, Methinks its just the modulation of the HF switcher at twice the line frequency, 100Hz in your case. Your probably hearing the small HF transformer in the base of the CFL sing at that frequency. |
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Eeyore wrote:
The strangest thing happened to me yesterday. I was sitting on my bed and rested my head (the temple) on my hand and I could hear a buzzing. Now, I'd had a bad headache a few days before but it didn't sound like the tinnitus associated with it. So, I removed my head from my hand and the sound stopped. Then the penny dropped, you can get bone conduction hearing. Sure enough it was the 11W CFL lamp in my bedside light about 2-3 feet away. If I put my ear up close to it I could hear exactly the same sound. Is that curious or what ? May be the lamp, or not. I get LF tinnitus sometimes when I am stressed or tired . You could swear there is a humming transformer, resonance, fan, ac, fridge, or whatever somewhere - but there isn't. Especially at night when trying to sleep. It can seem very loud (ie not faint background, but very much 'there'. I even ripped my wall-boards off once, to see if there was a power cable running past my head (there wasn't). Other's can't hear it, and you can't measure it. It can seem quite loud. After years of searching the house and neighbourhood for the source, I funally realised what it was when I had it way up a mountain , miles from anywhere, and figured it was (on that occasion) in just one ear ! Sometimes it will strop if I press my jaw near the ear. Once I stuck my finger in my ear and the hum stopped and it did an orgasmic pulsing thing instead. It is known as The Hum, and there are all sorts of conspiracy theories about it, from weapons research, government mind-control beams, aliens, phantom planets, the Sun getting ready to implode, electrical feilds, HARRP, gravity waves, etc, etc, etc. Most adherents to those ideas radically HATE the idea of something as mundane as (LF) tinnitus. That could be what you had, and attributed it to the lamp. Or it may have actually been the lamp (halogen transformer or fibrillating filament). |
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Eeyore wrote:
The strangest thing happened to me yesterday. I was sitting on my bed and rested my head (the temple) on my hand and I could hear a buzzing. Now, I'd had a bad headache a few days before but it didn't sound like the tinnitus associated with it. So, I removed my head from my hand and the sound stopped. Then the penny dropped, you can get bone conduction hearing. Sure enough it was the 11W CFL lamp in my bedside light about 2-3 feet away. If I put my ear up close to it I could hear exactly the same sound. Is that curious or what ? MI5 trying to get at your brain via powerline voodoo? duck and run ... -- SCNR, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM. |
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Joerg wrote: Eeyore wrote: The strangest thing happened to me yesterday. I was sitting on my bed and rested my head (the temple) on my hand and I could hear a buzzing. Now, I'd had a bad headache a few days before but it didn't sound like the tinnitus associated with it. So, I removed my head from my hand and the sound stopped. Then the penny dropped, you can get bone conduction hearing. Sure enough it was the 11W CFL lamp in my bedside light about 2-3 feet away. If I put my ear up close to it I could hear exactly the same sound. Is that curious or what ? MI5 trying to get at your brain via powerline voodoo? Why? There's nothing to get at. -- http://improve-usenet.org/index.html aioe.org, Goggle Groups, and Web TV users must request to be white listed, or I will not see your messages. If you have broadband, your ISP may have a NNTP news server included in your account: http://www.usenettools.net/ISP.htm There are two kinds of people on this earth: The crazy, and the insane. The first sign of insanity is denying that you're crazy. |
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On Dec 23, 9:22 pm, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote: MI5 trying to get at your brain via powerline voodoo? Why? There's nothing to get at. BA ZING! |
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Joerg wrote: Eeyore wrote: The strangest thing happened to me yesterday. I was sitting on my bed and rested my head (the temple) on my hand and I could hear a buzzing. Now, I'd had a bad headache a few days before but it didn't sound like the tinnitus associated with it. So, I removed my head from my hand and the sound stopped. Then the penny dropped, you can get bone conduction hearing. Sure enough it was the 11W CFL lamp in my bedside light about 2-3 feet away. If I put my ear up close to it I could hear exactly the same sound. Is that curious or what ? MI5 trying to get at your brain via powerline voodoo? duck and run ... LMAO ! If I haven't sent you it already via one means or another do please check this kink, no link. Kink is something else I could elaborate on. Many friends have indulged in it. http://www.avolites.org.uk/jokes/queen.htm Graham |
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geoff wrote: Eeyore wrote: The strangest thing happened to me yesterday. I was sitting on my bed and rested my head (the temple) on my hand and I could hear a buzzing. Now, I'd had a bad headache a few days before but it didn't sound like the tinnitus associated with it. So, I removed my head from my hand and the sound stopped. Then the penny dropped, you can get bone conduction hearing. Sure enough it was the 11W CFL lamp in my bedside light about 2-3 feet away. If I put my ear up close to it I could hear exactly the same sound. Is that curious or what ? May be the lamp, or not. I get LF tinnitus sometimes when I am stressed or tired . You could swear there is a humming transformer, resonance, fan, ac, fridge, or whatever somewhere - but there isn't. Especially at night when trying to sleep. It can seem very loud (ie not faint background, but very much 'there'. I even ripped my wall-boards off once, to see if there was a power cable running past my head (there wasn't). Other's can't hear it, and you can't measure it. It can seem quite loud. After years of searching the house and neighbourhood for the source, I funally realised what it was when I had it way up a mountain , miles from anywhere, and figured it was (on that occasion) in just one ear ! Sometimes it will strop if I press my jaw near the ear. Once I stuck my finger in my ear and the hum stopped and it did an orgasmic pulsing thing instead. It is known as The Hum, and there are all sorts of conspiracy theories about it, from weapons research, government mind-control beams, aliens, phantom planets, the Sun getting ready to implode, electrical feilds, HARRP, gravity waves, etc, etc, etc. Most adherents to those ideas radically HATE the idea of something as mundane as (LF) tinnitus. That could be what you had, and attributed it to the lamp. Or it may have actually been the lamp (halogen transformer or fibrillating filament). It was a CFL. And listening up close revealed an identical sound. Looks like my hearing threshold must still be around 0 dB (phons actually). Graham |
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geoff wrote:
It is known as The Hum, and there are all sorts of conspiracy theories about it, from weapons research, government mind-control beams, aliens, phantom planets, the Sun getting ready to implode, electrical feilds, HARRP, gravity waves, etc, etc, etc. Most adherents to those ideas radically HATE the idea of something as mundane as (LF) tinnitus. You obviously have you mind made up about whatever it was that you were hearing and that everyone who differs must be a raving nutcase. But.... I had The Hum for years when I lived near Wolverhampton. An LF pulsing sound that sounded like a large truck parked with its engine running. It started soon after a large gas main was installed nearby and I could "hear" it in and close to our house, especially at night. It sounded so real that I would wonder around the house looking for the source. Nobody else could hear it. I'm not sure it was tinnitus because I only ever heard it in/around the house. It was so location specific. I recall pulling up onto our drive after a completely hum-free holiday and turning off the car engine....immediately I could hear The Hum. Since we have been living in Wales for the last 9 years I have never heard it. I don't know what it is but I would not dismiss it out of hand as LF tinnitus. |
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On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 11:07:26 -0000, "TonyL"
wrote: geoff wrote: It is known as The Hum, and there are all sorts of conspiracy theories about it, from weapons research, government mind-control beams, aliens, phantom planets, the Sun getting ready to implode, electrical feilds, HARRP, gravity waves, etc, etc, etc. Most adherents to those ideas radically HATE the idea of something as mundane as (LF) tinnitus. You obviously have you mind made up about whatever it was that you were hearing and that everyone who differs must be a raving nutcase. But.... I had The Hum for years when I lived near Wolverhampton. An LF pulsing sound that sounded like a large truck parked with its engine running. It started soon after a large gas main was installed nearby and I could "hear" it in and close to our house, especially at night. It sounded so real that I would wonder around the house looking for the source. Nobody else could hear it. I'm not sure it was tinnitus because I only ever heard it in/around the house. It was so location specific. I recall pulling up onto our drive after a completely hum-free holiday and turning off the car engine....immediately I could hear The Hum. Since we have been living in Wales for the last 9 years I have never heard it. I don't know what it is but I would not dismiss it out of hand as LF tinnitus. Ever try recording it? That would have settled the matter once and for all. d |
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Don Pearce wrote in message news:4953186d.528987093@localhost... On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 11:07:26 -0000, "TonyL" wrote: geoff wrote: It is known as The Hum, and there are all sorts of conspiracy theories about it, from weapons research, government mind-control beams, aliens, phantom planets, the Sun getting ready to implode, electrical feilds, HARRP, gravity waves, etc, etc, etc. Most adherents to those ideas radically HATE the idea of something as mundane as (LF) tinnitus. You obviously have you mind made up about whatever it was that you were hearing and that everyone who differs must be a raving nutcase. But.... I had The Hum for years when I lived near Wolverhampton. An LF pulsing sound that sounded like a large truck parked with its engine running. It started soon after a large gas main was installed nearby and I could "hear" it in and close to our house, especially at night. It sounded so real that I would wonder around the house looking for the source. Nobody else could hear it. I'm not sure it was tinnitus because I only ever heard it in/around the house. It was so location specific. I recall pulling up onto our drive after a completely hum-free holiday and turning off the car engine....immediately I could hear The Hum. Since we have been living in Wales for the last 9 years I have never heard it. I don't know what it is but I would not dismiss it out of hand as LF tinnitus. Ever try recording it? That would have settled the matter once and for all. And in that case - try recording it on a laptop, with a widely separated set of stereo mikes. Turn the set in different directions and look at the phase relation - should indicate direction. I found a "humming source" that way (transformer house with a resonating wall). I used a program to display the live stereo phase vector (AFAIR Cooledit 2000). Regards, Arie de Muijnck |
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Eeyore wrote: wrote: On Dec 23, 9:22 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: MI5 trying to get at your brain via powerline voodoo? Why? There's nothing to get at. BA ZING! Was that the power line being overloaded by my brain ? Your brain couldn't overload a AAAA cell. -- http://improve-usenet.org/index.html aioe.org, Goggle Groups, and Web TV users must request to be white listed, or I will not see your messages. If you have broadband, your ISP may have a NNTP news server included in your account: http://www.usenettools.net/ISP.htm There are two kinds of people on this earth: The crazy, and the insane. The first sign of insanity is denying that you're crazy. |
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TonyL wrote: I'm not sure it was tinnitus because I only ever heard it in/around the house. It was so location specific. I recall pulling up onto our drive after a completely hum-free holiday and turning off the car engine....immediately I could hear The Hum. Since we have been living in Wales for the last 9 years I have never heard it. I don't know what it is but I would not dismiss it out of hand as LF tinnitus. I'd say tinnitus would stay pretty constant when you move your head - whereas something acoustic is likely to change. Nodes and things. I've had an early Xmas present - next door have had a new boiler fitted so the hum from the old pump has gone. It was very audible in my kitchen - their boiler was mounted on the party wall. It's about the only noise I heard from them - despite them having two young kids - so I just put up with it, as it was like that when they bought the house. -- *7up is good for you, signed snow white* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Joerg wrote: Eeyore wrote: The strangest thing happened to me yesterday. I was sitting on my bed and rested my head (the temple) on my hand and I could hear a buzzing. Now, I'd had a bad headache a few days before but it didn't sound like the tinnitus associated with it. So, I removed my head from my hand and the sound stopped. Then the penny dropped, you can get bone conduction hearing. Sure enough it was the 11W CFL lamp in my bedside light about 2-3 feet away. If I put my ear up close to it I could hear exactly the same sound. Is that curious or what ? MI5 trying to get at your brain via powerline voodoo? duck and run ... LMAO ! If I haven't sent you it already via one means or another do please check this kink, no link. Kink is something else I could elaborate on. Many friends have indulged in it. http://www.avolites.org.uk/jokes/queen.htm Yes, I saw that. Have to send it to two guys at a client over here in "the colony", both are British and hardcore Manchester United fans. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM. |
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Don Pearce wrote:
Ever try recording it? That would have settled the matter once and for all. No, I didn't. It is entirely possible that nothing whatever would have been recorded. I don't have an explanation. Just that the Tinnitus explanation doesn't seem to be the answer, in my case. I'm wondering about direct excitation of the auditory nerves by....something electromagnetic. This is just speculation, of course. I didn't do any measurements. Also, this doesn't explain why others could not hear it. And no, I have never been abducted by aliens and I don't believe that the Earth is about to be engulfed by a black hole when they get the LHC going again :-) |
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krw wrote: In article , says... Eeyore wrote: wrote: On Dec 23, 9:22 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: MI5 trying to get at your brain via powerline voodoo? Why? There's nothing to get at. BA ZING! Was that the power line being overloaded by my brain ? Your brain couldn't overload a AAAA cell. Solar cell. ...at night. In three inches of black epory...and a sealed metal box. -- http://improve-usenet.org/index.html aioe.org, Goggle Groups, and Web TV users must request to be white listed, or I will not see your messages. If you have broadband, your ISP may have a NNTP news server included in your account: http://www.usenettools.net/ISP.htm There are two kinds of people on this earth: The crazy, and the insane. The first sign of insanity is denying that you're crazy. |
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On Dec 23, 5:53*pm, Eeyore
wrote: The strangest thing happened to me yesterday. I was sitting on my bed and rested my head (the temple) on my hand and I could hear a buzzing. Now, I'd had a bad headache a few days before but it didn't sound like the tinnitus associated with it. So, I removed my head from my hand and the sound stopped. Then the penny dropped, you can get bone conduction hearing. Sure enough it was the 11W CFL lamp in my bedside light about 2-3 feet away. If I put my ear up close to it I could hear exactly the same sound. Is that curious or what ? Graham You need a tinfoil hat - I think aliens are listening to your brain ;-) |
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On Dec 23, 6:01*pm, "geoff" wrote:
Once I stuck my finger in my ear and the hum stopped and it did an orgasmic pulsing thing You lucky guy. |
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On 24 dec, 19:01, Danny T wrote:
On Dec 23, 5:53*pm, Eeyore wrote: The strangest thing happened to me yesterday. I was sitting on my bed and rested my head (the temple) on my hand and I could hear a buzzing. Now, I'd had a bad headache a few days before but it didn't sound like the tinnitus associated with it. So, I removed my head from my hand and the sound stopped. Then the penny dropped, you can get bone conduction hearing. Sure enough it was the 11W CFL lamp in my bedside light about 2-3 feet away. If I put my ear up close to it I could hear exactly the same sound. Is that curious or what ? Graham You need a tinfoil hat - I think aliens are listening to your brain ;-) I'm sure aliens could find better things to listen to. -- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen |
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Danny T wrote: On Dec 23, 5:53 pm, Eeyore wrote: The strangest thing happened to me yesterday. I was sitting on my bed and rested my head (the temple) on my hand and I could hear a buzzing. Now, I'd had a bad headache a few days before but it didn't sound like the tinnitus associated with it. So, I removed my head from my hand and the sound stopped. Then the penny dropped, you can get bone conduction hearing. Sure enough it was the 11W CFL lamp in my bedside light about 2-3 feet away. If I put my ear up close to it I could hear exactly the same sound. Is that curious or what ? Graham You need a tinfoil hat - I think aliens are listening to your brain ;-) All they will get is crickets. -- http://improve-usenet.org/index.html aioe.org, Goggle Groups, and Web TV users must request to be white listed, or I will not see your messages. If you have broadband, your ISP may have a NNTP news server included in your account: http://www.usenettools.net/ISP.htm There are two kinds of people on this earth: The crazy, and the insane. The first sign of insanity is denying that you're crazy. |
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"Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Eeyore wrote: wrote: On Dec 23, 9:22 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote MI5 trying to get at your brain via powerline voodoo? Why? There's nothing to get at. BA ZING! Was that the power line being overloaded by my brain ? Your brain couldn't overload a AAAA cell. Unimaginative. Is yours that small btw ? I'd never heard of one before. Grahaam |
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Eeyore wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Eeyore wrote: wrote: On Dec 23, 9:22 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote MI5 trying to get at your brain via powerline voodoo? Why? There's nothing to get at. BA ZING! Was that the power line being overloaded by my brain ? Your brain couldn't overload a AAAA cell. Unimaginative. Is yours that small btw ? I'd never heard of one before. No, you are all alone down there with the Amoebas. BTW, a real EE would know that AAAA cells are used in 9 volt batteries. Once again your ignorance is staggering. -- http://improve-usenet.org/index.html aioe.org, Goggle Groups, and Web TV users must request to be white listed, or I will not see your messages. If you have broadband, your ISP may have a NNTP news server included in your account: http://www.usenettools.net/ISP.htm There are two kinds of people on this earth: The crazy, and the insane. The first sign of insanity is denying that you're crazy. |
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Eeyore wrote: wrote: Danny T wrote: Eeyore wrote: The strangest thing happened to me yesterday. I was sitting on my bed and rested my head (the temple) on my hand and I could hear a buzzing. Now, I'd had a bad headache a few days before but it didn't sound like the tinnitus associated with it. So, I removed my head from my hand and the sound stopped. Then the penny dropped, you can get bone conduction hearing. Sure enough it was the 11W CFL lamp in my bedside light about 2-3 feet away. If I put my ear up close to it I could hear exactly the same sound. Is that curious or what ? Graham You need a tinfoil hat - I think aliens are listening to your brain ;-) I'm sure aliens could find better things to listen to. You said something funny Bill ! God Jul ! As always, you are easily entertained. -- http://improve-usenet.org/index.html aioe.org, Goggle Groups, and Web TV users must request to be white listed, or I will not see your messages. If you have broadband, your ISP may have a NNTP news server included in your account: http://www.usenettools.net/ISP.htm There are two kinds of people on this earth: The crazy, and the insane. The first sign of insanity is denying that you're crazy. |
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , TonyL wrote: I'm not sure it was tinnitus because I only ever heard it in/around the house. It was so location specific. I recall pulling up onto our drive after a completely hum-free holiday and turning off the car engine....immediately I could hear The Hum. Since we have been living in Wales for the last 9 years I have never heard it. I don't know what it is but I would not dismiss it out of hand as LF tinnitus. I'd say tinnitus would stay pretty constant when you move your head - whereas something acoustic is likely to change. Nodes and things. I tend to agree. I've had tinnitus for years, now. It tends to be constant, except when it changes. However, the changes are abrupt and independent of my position or any movement. The changes can be triggered by a yawn or something like that, but it's clear that what I'm hearing is internal to my head, and not caused by any outside sources. -Raf -- Misifus- Rafael Seibert Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rafiii home: http://www.rafandsioux.com |
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In uk.rec.audio,rec.audio.pro amd sci.electronics.design, On Wed, 24
Dec 2008 10:01:48 -0800 (PST), Danny T wrote: On Dec 23, 5:53*pm, Eeyore wrote: The strangest thing happened to me yesterday. I was sitting on my bed and rested my head (the temple) on my hand and I could hear a buzzing. Now, I'd had a bad headache a few days before but it didn't sound like the tinnitus associated with it. So, I removed my head from my hand and the sound stopped. Then the penny dropped, you can get bone conduction hearing. Sure enough it was the 11W CFL lamp in my bedside light about 2-3 feet away. If I put my ear up close to it I could hear exactly the same sound. Is that curious or what ? Graham You need a tinfoil hat - I think aliens are listening to your brain ;-) Oh, no, not this urban legend again. The effectiveness (or lack thereof) of tinfoil (or its equivalent, aluminum foil) hats was investigated at MIT several years ago, with startling results: http://people.csail.mit.edu/rahimi/helmet/ |
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"Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Eeyore wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Eeyore wrote: wrote: On Dec 23, 9:22 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote MI5 trying to get at your brain via powerline voodoo? Why? There's nothing to get at. BA ZING! Was that the power line being overloaded by my brain ? Your brain couldn't overload a AAAA cell. Unimaginative. Is yours that small btw ? I'd never heard of one before. No, you are all alone down there with the Amoebas. BTW, a real EE would know that AAAA cells are used in 9 volt batteries. Once again your ignorance is staggering. This doesn't look much like a 9 volt battery to me ! http://twincitytactical.com/product_...oducts_id=1640 Unbelievable ! |
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says... "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Eeyore wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Eeyore wrote: wrote: On Dec 23, 9:22 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote MI5 trying to get at your brain via powerline voodoo? Why? There's nothing to get at. BA ZING! Was that the power line being overloaded by my brain ? Your brain couldn't overload a AAAA cell. Unimaginative. Is yours that small btw ? I'd never heard of one before. No, you are all alone down there with the Amoebas. BTW, a real EE would know that AAAA cells are used in 9 volt batteries. Once again your ignorance is staggering. This doesn't look much like a 9 volt battery to me ! The cells *INSIDE* a 9V battery are nominally AAAA, Dumb Donkey. Too dumb to use Google, even. 194 IQ, my ass. http://twincitytactical.com/product_...oducts_id=1640 Unbelievable ! You certainly are. -- Keith |
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In article , says... "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Eeyore wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Eeyore wrote: wrote: On Dec 23, 9:22 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote MI5 trying to get at your brain via powerline voodoo? Why? There's nothing to get at. BA ZING! Was that the power line being overloaded by my brain ? Your brain couldn't overload a AAAA cell. Unimaginative. Is yours that small btw ? I'd never heard of one before. No, you are all alone down there with the Amoebas. BTW, a real EE would know that AAAA cells are used in 9 volt batteries. Once again your ignorance is staggering. This doesn't look much like a 9 volt battery to me ! The cells *INSIDE* a 9V battery are nominally AAAA, Dumb Donkey. Too dumb to use Google, even. 194 IQ, my ass. Apart from Duracell, does anyone else build a PP3 battery like that? -- Eiron. |
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says... krw wrote: In article , says... "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Eeyore wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Eeyore wrote: wrote: On Dec 23, 9:22 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote MI5 trying to get at your brain via powerline voodoo? Why? There's nothing to get at. BA ZING! Was that the power line being overloaded by my brain ? Your brain couldn't overload a AAAA cell. Unimaginative. Is yours that small btw ? I'd never heard of one before. No, you are all alone down there with the Amoebas. BTW, a real EE would know that AAAA cells are used in 9 volt batteries. Once again your ignorance is staggering. This doesn't look much like a 9 volt battery to me ! The cells *INSIDE* a 9V battery are nominally AAAA, Dumb Donkey. Too dumb to use Google, even. 194 IQ, my ass. Apart from Duracell, does anyone else build a PP3 battery like that? Dunno, all I seem to find in web searches is Duracells. Last time I took apart a 9V battery (likely 40 years ago) there were rectangular cells stacked inside. I do know how to use Google rather than running my mouth like a Dumb Donkey, though. -- Keith |
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... krw wrote: In article , says... "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Eeyore wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Eeyore wrote: wrote: On Dec 23, 9:22 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote MI5 trying to get at your brain via powerline voodoo? Why? There's nothing to get at. BA ZING! Was that the power line being overloaded by my brain ? Your brain couldn't overload a AAAA cell. Unimaginative. Is yours that small btw ? I'd never heard of one before. No, you are all alone down there with the Amoebas. BTW, a real EE would know that AAAA cells are used in 9 volt batteries. Once again your ignorance is staggering. This doesn't look much like a 9 volt battery to me ! The cells *INSIDE* a 9V battery are nominally AAAA, Dumb Donkey. Too dumb to use Google, even. 194 IQ, my ass. Apart from Duracell, does anyone else build a PP3 battery like that? Apparently. I've just opened up a dead "Energiser" PP3 and that is constructed of small cylindrical cells, whether they are strictly AAAA size I couldn't say. In the past, of course, all the "PP" series batteries were of layer construction. Not only the PP3, but also the larger PP7, PP9 etc types. When the battery industry switched over to cylindrical cells for these batteries I don't know, as I largely gave up breaking open old batteries years when I was a teenager. I was amused, though, by "Michael A. Terrell's" reference to "9V batteries" as though there was only one sort. PP9s are still made, and there are other specialist 9V batteries available. Does anyone remember those old 9V grid-bias batteries, the ones with a 3mm socket connection at each cell? David. |
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David Looser wrote: "Eiron" wrote in message ... krw wrote: In article , says... "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Eeyore wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Eeyore wrote: wrote: On Dec 23, 9:22 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote MI5 trying to get at your brain via powerline voodoo? Why? There's nothing to get at. BA ZING! Was that the power line being overloaded by my brain ? Your brain couldn't overload a AAAA cell. Unimaginative. Is yours that small btw ? I'd never heard of one before. No, you are all alone down there with the Amoebas. BTW, a real EE would know that AAAA cells are used in 9 volt batteries. Once again your ignorance is staggering. This doesn't look much like a 9 volt battery to me ! The cells *INSIDE* a 9V battery are nominally AAAA, Dumb Donkey. Too dumb to use Google, even. 194 IQ, my ass. Apart from Duracell, does anyone else build a PP3 battery like that? Apparently. I've just opened up a dead "Energiser" PP3 and that is constructed of small cylindrical cells, whether they are strictly AAAA size I couldn't say. In the past, of course, all the "PP" series batteries were of layer construction. Not only the PP3, but also the larger PP7, PP9 etc types. When the battery industry switched over to cylindrical cells for these batteries I don't know, as I largely gave up breaking open old batteries years when I was a teenager. I was amused, though, by "Michael A. Terrell's" reference to "9V batteries" as though there was only one sort. There is only one common 9V battery in the US. It is the only type you can buy over the counter in 99% or more retail shops. Also, Eeyore claims to be a genius, so he should know which one I was talking about. After all, he has that mighty 154 IQ! He should be able to see right through the battery package with that much brain power! PP9s are still made, and there are other specialist 9V batteries available. Does anyone remember those old 9V grid-bias batteries, the ones with a 3mm socket connection at each cell? I remember maybe 100 obsolete battery types, but what good does it do when you can't buy them? Do you remember the mercury batteries used in Turner microphones and early garage door openers? -- http://improve-usenet.org/index.html aioe.org, Goggle Groups, and Web TV users must request to be white listed, or I will not see your messages. If you have broadband, your ISP may have a NNTP news server included in your account: http://www.usenettools.net/ISP.htm There are two kinds of people on this earth: The crazy, and the insane. The first sign of insanity is denying that you're crazy. |
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m... There is only one common 9V battery in the US. It is the only type you can buy over the counter in 99% or more retail shops. So?, it's still only one type of 9V battery, there are others. Also, Eeyore claims to be a genius, so he should know which one I was talking about. After all, he has that mighty 154 IQ! He should be able to see right through the battery package with that much brain power! ROFLOL! What a prize bafoon you turn out to be! Are all your posts simply attacks on Graham? or is there some point to your existance? David. |
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David Looser wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message m... There is only one common 9V battery in the US. It is the only type you can buy over the counter in 99% or more retail shops. So?, it's still only one type of 9V battery, there are others. Not to over 99% of the world's population. Also, Eeyore claims to be a genius, so he should know which one I was talking about. After all, he has that mighty 154 IQ! He should be able to see right through the battery package with that much brain power! ROFLOL! What a prize bafoon you turn out to be! Gee, with poor spelling skills like yours, you shouldn't be calling people names. Only a buffon would spell it bafoon. Maybe the oddball nine volt battery in your head is dead? According to Google: Results 1 - 10 of about 7,200,000 for buffon Did you mean: buffon for bafoon Are all your posts simply attacks on Graham? or is there some point to your existance? No. you should see his attacks on anyone in the US, including one where he wanted to nuke everything between Canada and Mexico to a sheet of radioactive glass. He is full of stupid ideas he defends till it becomes painful to watch. The dumb ass donkey has been braying about his 154 IQ for too long, so it's time to take pot shots. He usually pulls him dumbest stunts when he is crossposted to the audio newsgroups where he thinks he is the ultimate audio engineer by pointing to used crap for sale on Ebay. Since you are posting from BTInternet and on one of the audio groups I don't expect anything intellegent. -- http://improve-usenet.org/index.html aioe.org, Goggle Groups, and Web TV users must request to be white listed, or I will not see your messages. If you have broadband, your ISP may have a NNTP news server included in your account: http://www.usenettools.net/ISP.htm There are two kinds of people on this earth: The crazy, and the insane. The first sign of insanity is denying that you're crazy. |
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"Eiron" wrote in message ... krw wrote: In article , says... "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Eeyore wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Eeyore wrote: wrote: On Dec 23, 9:22 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote MI5 trying to get at your brain via powerline voodoo? Why? There's nothing to get at. BA ZING! Was that the power line being overloaded by my brain ? Your brain couldn't overload a AAAA cell. Unimaginative. Is yours that small btw ? I'd never heard of one before. No, you are all alone down there with the Amoebas. BTW, a real EE would know that AAAA cells are used in 9 volt batteries. Once again your ignorance is staggering. This doesn't look much like a 9 volt battery to me ! The cells *INSIDE* a 9V battery are nominally AAAA, Dumb Donkey. Too dumb to use Google, even. 194 IQ, my ass. Apart from Duracell, does anyone else build a PP3 battery like that? Apparently. I've just opened up a dead "Energiser" PP3 and that is constructed of small cylindrical cells, whether they are strictly AAAA size I couldn't say. In the past, of course, all the "PP" series batteries were of layer construction. Not only the PP3, but also the larger PP7, PP9 etc types. When the battery industry switched over to cylindrical cells for these batteries I don't know, as I largely gave up breaking open old batteries years when I was a teenager. I was amused, though, by "Michael A. Terrell's" reference to "9V batteries" as though there was only one sort. PP9s are still made, and there are other specialist 9V batteries available. Does anyone remember those old 9V grid-bias batteries, the ones with a 3mm socket connection at each cell? David. I've opened numerous 9V batteries, they have always contained 6 smaller, cylindrical cells. Each of the smaller cells makes approximately 1.5V, thus giving 9V. The chemical reactions that produce the potential for all types of dry cell batteries generally produce between 1.2V and 1.5V. In order to get higher voltages, the cells must be combined, as they are in the 9V. Obviously, the wet cell batteries in cars, golf carts and trolling motors produce a bit more, about 2V per cell. -Raf -- Misifus- Rafael Seibert Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rafiii home: http://www.rafandsioux.com |
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David Looser wrote: "Eiron" wrote in message ... krw wrote: In article , says... "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Eeyore wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Eeyore wrote: wrote: On Dec 23, 9:22 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote MI5 trying to get at your brain via powerline voodoo? Why? There's nothing to get at. BA ZING! Was that the power line being overloaded by my brain ? Your brain couldn't overload a AAAA cell. Unimaginative. Is yours that small btw ? I'd never heard of one before. No, you are all alone down there with the Amoebas. BTW, a real EE would know that AAAA cells are used in 9 volt batteries. Once again your ignorance is staggering. This doesn't look much like a 9 volt battery to me ! The cells *INSIDE* a 9V battery are nominally AAAA, Dumb Donkey. Too dumb to use Google, even. 194 IQ, my ass. Apart from Duracell, does anyone else build a PP3 battery like that? Apparently. I've just opened up a dead "Energiser" PP3 and that is constructed of small cylindrical cells, whether they are strictly AAAA size I couldn't say. In the past, of course, all the "PP" series batteries were of layer construction. Not only the PP3, but also the larger PP7, PP9 etc types. When the battery industry switched over to cylindrical cells for these batteries I don't know, as I largely gave up breaking open old batteries years when I was a teenager. I was amused, though, by "Michael A. Terrell's" reference to "9V batteries" as though there was only one sort. PP9s are still made, and there are other specialist 9V batteries available. Does anyone remember those old 9V grid-bias batteries, the ones with a 3mm socket connection at each cell? David. I've opened numerous 9V batteries, they have always contained 6 smaller, cylindrical cells. You have obviously not opened enough of them. A quick analysis of the dead PP3s in the house (generally about 5 years old) showed Panasonic and Golden Power (Chinese - don't remember buying it) using the traditional stack of lozenges, and Duracell and Tesco (UK supermarket) using 6 AAAA cells. The only one that failed prematurely was a Duracell, which revealed a missing spot-weld at the -ve end of one cell. So I won't be buying any more of them. -- Eiron. -- Eiron. |
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Eiron wrote: Misifus wrote: I've opened numerous 9V batteries, they have always contained 6 smaller, cylindrical cells. You have obviously not opened enough of them. A quick analysis of the dead PP3s in the house (generally about 5 years old) showed Panasonic and Golden Power (Chinese - don't remember buying it) using the traditional stack of lozenges, and Duracell and Tesco (UK supermarket) using 6 AAAA cells. The only one that failed prematurely was a Duracell, which revealed a missing spot-weld at the -ve end of one cell. So I won't be buying any more of them. Was it a genuine 'Duracell', or one of the Chinese fakes? -- http://improve-usenet.org/index.html aioe.org, Goggle Groups, and Web TV users must request to be white listed, or I will not see your messages. If you have broadband, your ISP may have a NNTP news server included in your account: http://www.usenettools.net/ISP.htm There are two kinds of people on this earth: The crazy, and the insane. The first sign of insanity is denying that you're crazy. |
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Someone else described the innards of a PP3 battery as a
"stack of lozenges". This is a perfect description of what I found, the only time I bothered looking inside one; I have no idea when that was, but I imagine quite a number of years ago; maybe when I was a teenager. I would imagine that that arrangement would fill the internal space better than 6 cylindrical cells; I wonder what effect that latter arrangement would have on capacity. It seems silly to me. Why make a cylindrical AAAA to put inside a PP3? Or do they also put 1xAAAA in AAA, and AA batteries too?! (I have read not that long ago about C cells being found inside nominal "D cells"! Cheeky ****ers! Can't remember what manufacturer that was, though.) Martin -- M.A.Poyser Tel.: 07967 110890 Manchester, U.K. http://www.livejournal.com/userinfo.bml?user=fleetie |
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