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Old December 28th 08, 03:27 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman (News)
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In article ,
Godfrey Wilkes wrote:
Sorry about the HTML. In over 12 years of newsgroup posting I've always
tried to stick to the 'rules' but something went wrong this time! Must
have had a senior moment.


It arrived here as plain text - so I'm not quite sure what Graham is on
about.

I think you've confirmed my own thoughts on the disadvantages although
I'm led to believe that Lowthers are something special.


They're one of those classic designs which were good in their day - but
have been well and truly bettered. A bit like a Morris Minor. That's not
to say they wouldn't make a good driver as part of a multi driver unit -
but cheaper alternatives are available.

The only advantage I can see is high efficiency, in the right enclosure,
but with today's high powered amplifiers efficiency is not a problem.


High efficiency usually means horn loading - and horns tend to have a
sound all of their own. Fine if you like that - but not an accurate one.

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Old December 28th 08, 04:53 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Eeyore
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

Godfrey Wilkes wrote:
Sorry about the HTML. In over 12 years of newsgroup posting I've always
tried to stick to the 'rules' but something went wrong this time! Must
have had a senior moment.


It arrived here as plain text - so I'm not quite sure what Graham is on
about.


That. But maybe your newsreader ignores html tags.

Graham

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Old December 28th 08, 05:21 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman (News)
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In article ,
Eeyore wrote:
Godfrey Wilkes wrote:
Sorry about the HTML. In over 12 years of newsgroup posting I've
always tried to stick to the 'rules' but something went wrong this
time! Must have had a senior moment.


It arrived here as plain text - so I'm not quite sure what Graham is on
about.


That.


?

But maybe your newsreader ignores html tags.


There weren't any. Could be my news feed converts HTML to text and removes
any attachments.

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Old December 29th 08, 02:17 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Eeyore
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
Godfrey Wilkes wrote:
Sorry about the HTML. In over 12 years of newsgroup posting I've
always tried to stick to the 'rules' but something went wrong this
time! Must have had a senior moment.

It arrived here as plain text - so I'm not quite sure what Graham is on
about.


That.


?


My newsreader won't repeat it. OE will though.


But maybe your newsreader ignores html tags.


There weren't any. Could be my news feed converts HTML to text and removes
any attachments.


Quite possible.

Graham

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Old January 4th 09, 08:10 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

There weren't any. Could be my news feed converts HTML to text and removes
any attachments.


Pluto doesn't support HTML in messages (as far as I know - and why would
it, it's pointless!) so it's probably just showing you the
multipart/alternative MIME segment text/plain.

(Former Acorn/RISC OS person)

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Old January 4th 09, 08:59 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman (News)
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In article ,
Glenn Richards wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:


There weren't any. Could be my news feed converts HTML to text and
removes any attachments.


Pluto doesn't support HTML in messages (as far as I know - and why would
it, it's pointless!) so it's probably just showing you the
multipart/alternative MIME segment text/plain.


I get plenty of emails which are HTML only - these arrive in the form of
an attachment. It has the facility to convert these to plain text - but
doesn't do it automatically. Or I could click on the attachment and open
it in a browser. The odd one where the HTML is in the body of the post
show the HTML tags, etc. But never get this on news stuff. Always just
plain text.

(Former Acorn/RISC OS person)


Pluto and Draw are why I still use the Acorn for those things. I've yet to
find a PC prog the equal of them - and of course you don't have to bother
with all the firewalls and anti-virus etc stuff.

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Old January 9th 09, 08:49 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
jaap[_2_]
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Dave Plowman (News) schreef:
I think you've confirmed my own thoughts on the disadvantages although
I'm led to believe that Lowthers are something special.


They're one of those classic designs which were good in their day - but
have been well and truly bettered. A bit like a Morris Minor. That's not
to say they wouldn't make a good driver as part of a multi driver unit -
but cheaper alternatives are available.

The only advantage I can see is high efficiency, in the right enclosure,
but with today's high powered amplifiers efficiency is not a problem.


High efficiency usually means horn loading - and horns tend to have a
sound all of their own. Fine if you like that - but not an accurate one.


Fostex is my speaker of choice because I need their efficiency for my
home made 2 watt power amps. Fostex publishes plans for recommended
enclosures, indeed rather large back loaded horns. These make big fun
but building might be a pain. Sound quality is neither poor nor excellent.
It's my personal believe there is no such thing as 'perfect
reproduction' as all enclosures, filters and drivers have inherent
faults, one more obvious than others. Find your compromise and live with it.
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Old January 9th 09, 09:48 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman (News)
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In article ,
jaap wrote:
High efficiency usually means horn loading - and horns tend to have a
sound all of their own. Fine if you like that - but not an accurate
one.


Fostex is my speaker of choice because I need their efficiency for my
home made 2 watt power amps. Fostex publishes plans for recommended
enclosures, indeed rather large back loaded horns. These make big fun
but building might be a pain. Sound quality is neither poor nor
excellent. It's my personal believe there is no such thing as 'perfect
reproduction' as all enclosures, filters and drivers have inherent
faults, one more obvious than others. Find your compromise and live with
it.


I take it you're running off batteries etc if you are restricted to a 2
watt amp?

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Old January 9th 09, 12:02 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
jaap[_2_]
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Dave Plowman (News) schreef:
In article ,
jaap wrote:
High efficiency usually means horn loading - and horns tend to have a
sound all of their own. Fine if you like that - but not an accurate
one.


Fostex is my speaker of choice because I need their efficiency for my
home made 2 watt power amps. Fostex publishes plans for recommended
enclosures, indeed rather large back loaded horns. These make big fun
but building might be a pain. Sound quality is neither poor nor
excellent. It's my personal believe there is no such thing as 'perfect
reproduction' as all enclosures, filters and drivers have inherent
faults, one more obvious than others. Find your compromise and live with
it.


I take it you're running off batteries etc if you are restricted to a 2
watt amp?

No. Two watts output on 97dB speakers is very loud
Most of the music output has 0.01 to 0.1 watt power levels.
That's why the first audiowatt is the most important.
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Old January 9th 09, 12:46 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman (News)
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Posts: 5,872
Default Fostex

In article ,
jaap wrote:
Fostex is my speaker of choice because I need their efficiency for my
home made 2 watt power amps. Fostex publishes plans for recommended
enclosures, indeed rather large back loaded horns. These make big fun
but building might be a pain. Sound quality is neither poor nor
excellent. It's my personal believe there is no such thing as
'perfect reproduction' as all enclosures, filters and drivers have
inherent faults, one more obvious than others. Find your compromise
and live with it.


I take it you're running off batteries etc if you are restricted to a 2
watt amp?

No. Two watts output on 97dB speakers is very loud


With very sensitive speakers mounted in an efficient 'enclosure'.
Unfortunately, both those create more drawbacks than they eliminate.

Most of the music output has 0.01 to 0.1 watt power levels.


That's a very sweeping statement

That's why the first audiowatt is the most important.


Just as well as the second is likely to be poor.

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