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BBC is biased towards DAB wrote: Define what you mean by 'compressed audio' I don't think you understand what it is. Audio compressed using perceptual audio codecs. Thanks for confirming you have no idea what audio compression is. -- *Some people are alive only because it's illegal to kill them * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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In article , BBC is biased towards DAB wrote: Define what you mean by 'compressed audio' I don't think you understand what it is. Audio compressed using perceptual audio codecs. Thanks for confirming you have no idea what audio compression is. There are two forms of "audio compression" - one is dynamic range compression, and the other is data compression. The latter is what I'd always consider to be "audio compression", and I'd expect the former to be called by its full name or be called "audio processing" or just "processing". -- Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info The adoption of DAB was the most incompetent technical decision ever made in the history of UK broadcasting: http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/da...ion_of_dab.htm |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
In article , tony sayer wrote: "Some time ago I set up a test. Recorded the same clips from R1,3 and 4 off DAB, FM and AM (AM using a Quad AM3 with proper aerial) Adjusted Dave .. Can you answer this question of -when- you did this please?. I'm afraid I can't give you the exact date. But not long after DAB started. So your test was actually from an age where the bit rates were far higher than they are today. So could you explain why your test results are relevant now???? -- Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info The adoption of DAB was the most incompetent technical decision ever made in the history of UK broadcasting: http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/da...ion_of_dab.htm |
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In article , BBC is biased towards DAB wrote: I came up with the idea that led to the design of DAB+, Bwahahahahahahahahahahahah... Tis true, I'm afraid. WTF would you know anyway? -- Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info The adoption of DAB was the most incompetent technical decision ever made in the history of UK broadcasting: http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/da...ion_of_dab.htm |
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In article , BBC is biased towards DAB wrote: so it would mean using their computer. Wi-Fi Internet radio doesn't require your computer to be switched on at all. Shows how little you know about it. Most would consider Wi-Fi to be part of a computer installation. What difference does that make? Which probably isn't in the best place for using while in the kitchen. Where many do listen to the radio. Same as the bathroom. But if you live in one room it makes little difference. I have a Wi-Fi Internet radio in the kitchen - have done for getting on for 2 years, and I wouldn't want anything less - vast range of choice, better audio quality, and you can listen to your own music streamed from your PC. With that PC switched off? Make up your mind. If you're finding this difficult: YOu can listen to Internet radio on a Wi-Fi radio without your PC on. You obviously need your PC on if you want to listen to audio streamed from your PC, or else it would be difficult for the Wi-Fi radio to read the audio stored on the PC, wouldn't it? -- Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info The adoption of DAB was the most incompetent technical decision ever made in the history of UK broadcasting: http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/da...ion_of_dab.htm |
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BBC is biased towards DAB wrote: "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message In article , BBC is biased towards DAB wrote: Define what you mean by 'compressed audio' I don't think you understand what it is. Audio compressed using perceptual audio codecs. Thanks for confirming you have no idea what audio compression is. There are two forms of "audio compression" - one is dynamic range compression, and the other is data compression. Most consider audio to be just that. Data something else. But if you actually understood the original point it would be obvious it applied to dynamic range alteration. The latter is what I'd always consider to be "audio compression", and I'd expect the former to be called by its full name or be called "audio processing" or just "processing". Audio compression dates back to long before digits were thought of. Or certainly before digital audio was practical. FWIW true audio compression is a loss less method. It can (in theory) be recovered to the original by using the reverse algorithm. Such an application was reducing noise over a link or recording, etc. Digital compression is quite the reverse - it generally involves throwing away information. And should never have been allowed to adopted this term. -- *No radio - Already stolen. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
In article , BBC is biased towards DAB wrote: "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message In article , BBC is biased towards DAB wrote: Define what you mean by 'compressed audio' I don't think you understand what it is. Audio compressed using perceptual audio codecs. Thanks for confirming you have no idea what audio compression is. There are two forms of "audio compression" - one is dynamic range compression, and the other is data compression. Most consider audio to be just that. Data something else. But if you actually understood the original point it would be obvious it applied to dynamic range alteration. The latter is what I'd always consider to be "audio compression", and I'd expect the former to be called by its full name or be called "audio processing" or just "processing". Audio compression dates back to long before digits were thought of. Or certainly before digital audio was practical. FWIW true audio compression is a loss less method. It can (in theory) be recovered to the original by using the reverse algorithm. Such an application was reducing noise over a link or recording, etc. Digital compression is quite the reverse - it generally involves throwing away information. And should never have been allowed to adopted this term. Never heard of lossless audio compression then? Try Googling for FLAC. -- Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info The adoption of DAB was the most incompetent technical decision ever made in the history of UK broadcasting: http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/da...ion_of_dab.htm |
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In article , Dave Plowman (News)
scribeth thus In article , tony sayer wrote: "Some time ago I set up a test. Recorded the same clips from R1,3 and 4 off DAB, FM and AM (AM using a Quad AM3 with proper aerial) Adjusted Dave .. Can you answer this question of -when- you did this please?. I'm afraid I can't give you the exact date. But not long after DAB started. Do you think thats a reasonable comparison then?.. And just how long have Radios 1 and 3 been off Am then?.. -- Tony Sayer |
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"tony sayer" wrote in message
In article , Dave Plowman (News) scribeth thus In article , tony sayer wrote: "Some time ago I set up a test. Recorded the same clips from R1,3 and 4 off DAB, FM and AM (AM using a Quad AM3 with proper aerial) Adjusted Dave .. Can you answer this question of -when- you did this please?. I'm afraid I can't give you the exact date. But not long after DAB started. Do you think thats a reasonable comparison then?.. And just how long have Radios 1 and 3 been off Am then?.. Plow******** has gone all quiet all of a sudden - mefinks he's realised that his test results are worth ****. -- Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info The adoption of DAB was the most incompetent technical decision ever made in the history of UK broadcasting: http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/da...ion_of_dab.htm |
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In article , tony sayer
scribeth thus In article , Dave Plowman (News) scribeth thus In article , tony sayer wrote: "Some time ago I set up a test. Recorded the same clips from R1,3 and 4 off DAB, FM and AM (AM using a Quad AM3 with proper aerial) Adjusted Dave .. Can you answer this question of -when- you did this please?. I'm afraid I can't give you the exact date. But not long after DAB started. Do you think thats a reasonable comparison then?.. And just how long have Radios 1 and 3 been off Am then?.. Have you got any dates or a timeline for this as yet Dave?.. -- Tony Sayer |
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... You may take look at http://ondablancradio.com and http://radiofmlive.com Hope it helps Cheers If you like classical or jazz, have a look at Linn radio/classical/jazz - and at 320K mp3 some quality as well! -- Woody harrogate three at ntlworld dot com |
Internet radio - classical music, etc
On 22/01/2013 19:43, Woody wrote:
wrote in message If you like classical or jazz, have a look at Linn radio/classical/jazz - and at 320K mp3 some quality as well! 320 is almost listenable! |
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"Mike O'Sullivan" wrote in message
... On 22/01/2013 19:43, Woody wrote: wrote in message If you like classical or jazz, have a look at Linn radio/classical/jazz - and at 320K mp3 some quality as well! 320 is almost listenable! Been listening to it for ages. Their choral recordings are particularly pleasant. -- Woody harrogate three at ntlworld dot com |
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In article , Woody
wrote: "Mike O'Sullivan" wrote in message ... On 22/01/2013 19:43, Woody wrote: wrote in message If you like classical or jazz, have a look at Linn radio/classical/jazz - and at 320K mp3 some quality as well! 320 is almost listenable! Been listening to it for ages. Their choral recordings are particularly pleasant. I've also been quite happy at times to listen to the Linn 320k mp3 streams. Ditto for various 320k files that the Concertgebouw released a few years ago as freebies. My impression is that the bitrate alone doesn't tell the entire story. The quality will also depend on how well the encoder 'judges' the audibility requirements. Matter of settings and details of processing. And how much the producer avoids adding problems like excessive level-compression or eq. But I do wish more net radio stations would aspire to at least matching the BBC's use of 320 k aac for R3! Alas, too many seem to think that clumsy conversions to 12k mp3 are 'high quality'! :-/ Slainte, Jim -- Please use the address on the audiomisc page if you wish to email me. Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html |
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On Tue, 26 Feb 2013 09:35:36 +0000, Jim Lesurf wrote:
My impression is that the bitrate alone doesn't tell the entire story. The quality will also depend on how well the encoder 'judges' the audibility requirements. Matter of settings and details of processing. And how much the producer avoids adding problems like excessive level-compression or eq. Yes. I've heard one or two good recordings at 128k from Venice Classic radio via my Pioneer N-50/MDAC/Quad Elite/Quad ESL system. - Richard. |
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