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A Speaker Shootout - B&W DM2 vs. TDL Studio 1m



 
 
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Old April 1st 09, 08:14 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Adrian C
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Default A Speaker Shootout - B&W DM2 vs. TDL Studio 1m

I've got a thing about acoustic lines and speakers :-)

A friend had a problem with WAF, and I've ended up with his old B&W
DM2's as after 35 years of his enjoyment his wife has made him buy
something a little more compact ;-(

So I've got 3yr old TDL Studio 1 transmission lines in this room, and
have rigged up the DM2's in a similar but opposite location. Mission
Cyrus straight line amp driving...

Well, it's 32 years between them ... and the result?

Wow. Say, apart from size of the box, did any speaker developments
actually happen in the last 30 years?

These are the same.
http://www.vinylengine.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=9470

The vintage B&W's have got loads better stereo imagery, acoustic guitar
and piano are there AND pretty much the same boomless bass of the TDL's.
It's just, well, they are huge!! (and they could probably do with
exciting waves in a larger room). Damm, this is tough - I'm listening to
them at the moment playing a DALI demonstrator CD. I so wish I could fit
them in this room...

I'm probably going to be selling them for him, and am looking for an
enthusiast that would cherish the performance they can make, rather than
someone looking for random speakers for background 'wallpaper' music. I
think these are the sort of speakers you buy once and don't really think
about changing. Kind of the way I felt about my TDLs.

For that reason I don't think eBay is the right place, or is it?
Suggestions? I'm in London BTW.

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Old April 3rd 09, 01:28 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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On 1 Apr, 21:14, Adrian C wrote:
I've got a thing about acoustic lines and speakers :-)

A friend had a problem with WAF, and I've ended up with his old B&W
DM2's as after 35 years of his enjoyment his wife has made him buy
something a little more compact ;-(

So I've got 3yr old TDL Studio 1 transmission lines in this room, and
have rigged up the DM2's in a similar but opposite location. Mission
Cyrus straight line amp driving...

Well, it's 32 years between them ... and the result?

Wow. Say, apart from size of the box, did any speaker developments
actually happen in the last 30 years?

These are the same.
http://www.vinylengine.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=9470

The vintage B&W's have got loads better stereo imagery, acoustic guitar
and piano are there AND pretty much the same boomless bass of the TDL's.
It's just, well, they are huge!! (and they could probably do with
exciting waves in a larger room). Damm, this is tough - I'm listening to
them at the moment playing a DALI demonstrator CD. I so wish I could fit
them in this room...

I'm probably going to be selling them for him, and am looking for an
enthusiast that would cherish the performance they can make, rather than
someone looking for random speakers for background 'wallpaper' music. I
think these are the sort of speakers you buy once and don't really think
about changing. Kind of the way I felt about my TDLs.

For that reason I don't think eBay is the right place, or is it?
Suggestions? I'm in London BTW.

--
Adrian C


Agreed. I am still using my late '80s vintage Apogee Duetta
Signatures, for the simple reason that I haven't heard anything more
musical at any price since Apogee went belly up - and I include the
mighty B&W 800D and ATC SCM70. I suspect the new big Quads would be a
match, but why would I change?
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Old April 3rd 09, 01:41 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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wrote in message
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On 1 Apr, 21:14, Adrian C wrote:
I've got a thing about acoustic lines and speakers :-)

A friend had a problem with WAF, and I've ended up with his old B&W
DM2's as after 35 years of his enjoyment his wife has made him buy
something a little more compact ;-(

So I've got 3yr old TDL Studio 1 transmission lines in this room, and
have rigged up the DM2's in a similar but opposite location. Mission
Cyrus straight line amp driving...

Well, it's 32 years between them ... and the result?

Wow. Say, apart from size of the box, did any speaker developments
actually happen in the last 30 years?

These are the same.
http://www.vinylengine.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=9470

The vintage B&W's have got loads better stereo imagery, acoustic guitar
and piano are there AND pretty much the same boomless bass of the TDL's.
It's just, well, they are huge!! (and they could probably do with
exciting waves in a larger room). Damm, this is tough - I'm listening to
them at the moment playing a DALI demonstrator CD. I so wish I could fit
them in this room...

I'm probably going to be selling them for him, and am looking for an
enthusiast that would cherish the performance they can make, rather than
someone looking for random speakers for background 'wallpaper' music. I
think these are the sort of speakers you buy once and don't really think
about changing. Kind of the way I felt about my TDLs.

For that reason I don't think eBay is the right place, or is it?
Suggestions? I'm in London BTW.

--
Adrian C


Agreed. I am still using my late '80s vintage Apogee Duetta
Signatures, for the simple reason that I haven't heard anything more
musical at any price since Apogee went belly up - and I include the
mighty B&W 800D and ATC SCM70. I suspect the new big Quads would be a
match, but why would I change?


Welcome back, Stewart. Some of us have missed you ;-)

S.
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Old April 4th 09, 02:59 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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"Serge Auckland" wrote in message
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Agreed. I am still using my late '80s vintage Apogee Duetta
Signatures, for the simple reason that I haven't heard anything more
musical at any price since Apogee went belly up - and I include the
mighty B&W 800D and ATC SCM70. I suspect the new big Quads would be a
match, but why would I change?


Welcome back, Stewart. Some of us have missed you ;-)



Whaaat?

???

Don't tell me when I *finally* hook up to Usenet on a new ISP and look in
here for the first time in what - over a year? - I see *Pinky* has returned
to the fold...!!??

:-)

How ya doin' Pinkus? - I missed ya; this group went all polite and boring
after you left!!

(Apart from Plowie, of course.... :-))

Hi to everyone else, also - hope you are all keeping well!



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Old April 4th 09, 03:16 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Don Pearce[_3_]
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On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 15:59:37 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Serge Auckland" wrote in message
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wrote


Agreed. I am still using my late '80s vintage Apogee Duetta
Signatures, for the simple reason that I haven't heard anything more
musical at any price since Apogee went belly up - and I include the
mighty B&W 800D and ATC SCM70. I suspect the new big Quads would be a
match, but why would I change?


Welcome back, Stewart. Some of us have missed you ;-)



Whaaat?

???

Don't tell me when I *finally* hook up to Usenet on a new ISP and look in
here for the first time in what - over a year? - I see *Pinky* has returned
to the fold...!!??

:-)

How ya doin' Pinkus? - I missed ya; this group went all polite and boring
after you left!!

(Apart from Plowie, of course.... :-))

Hi to everyone else, also - hope you are all keeping well!



Hi Keith. Straight in with both feet I see! That's what we need.

d
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Old April 4th 09, 04:25 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G[_2_]
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"Don Pearce" wrote

Hi Keith. Straight in with both feet I see! That's what we need.



More feet?

:-)

How's things, Don - keeping well? Not out on your bike in this lovely
weather? Must be perfect for a pushbike - I've just had a tootle round on my
greatly reduced* motorbike and it was v. nice but a little fresh round the
knees!


*Self-regulation, I'm afraid - they're locking people up now for the speeds
I've been doing lately, so I've downsized meself!

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Old April 4th 09, 04:30 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Don Pearce[_3_]
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On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:25:30 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote

Hi Keith. Straight in with both feet I see! That's what we need.



More feet?

:-)

How's things, Don - keeping well? Not out on your bike in this lovely
weather? Must be perfect for a pushbike - I've just had a tootle round on my
greatly reduced* motorbike and it was v. nice but a little fresh round the
knees!


Yup, plenty. Did Edinburgh to Newcastle via all the hilly bits with my
brother and some mates during the summer. This August we are going
coast to coast across the Pennines.

Last I remember of you and your motorbike you had laid it down
carefully at a roundabout, I think, and were bemoaning the ridiculous
price of bits. Still the same bike? And by "reduced" do you mean you
didn't eventually buy the bits....


*Self-regulation, I'm afraid - they're locking people up now for the speeds
I've been doing lately, so I've downsized meself!


Ah - I guess you are now the proud owner of an FS1E.

d
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Old April 4th 09, 04:47 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G[_2_]
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Default A Speaker Shootout - B&W DM2 vs. TDL Studio 1m


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:25:30 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote

Hi Keith. Straight in with both feet I see! That's what we need.



More feet?

:-)

How's things, Don - keeping well? Not out on your bike in this lovely
weather? Must be perfect for a pushbike - I've just had a tootle round on
my
greatly reduced* motorbike and it was v. nice but a little fresh round the
knees!


Yup, plenty. Did Edinburgh to Newcastle via all the hilly bits with my
brother and some mates during the summer. This August we are going
coast to coast across the Pennines.



Streuth! I'm impressed! (But *not* tempted....)


Last I remember of you and your motorbike you had laid it down
carefully at a roundabout, I think, and were bemoaning the ridiculous
price of bits. Still the same bike? And by "reduced" do you mean you
didn't eventually buy the bits....



They repaired the Suzuki quite literally *better than new* as they had
promised, but there's been a couple of Triumphs and 3 Ducatis in quick
succession since that one!

(Kinda getting it all out of my system, I guess!)



*Self-regulation, I'm afraid - they're locking people up now for the
speeds
I've been doing lately, so I've downsized meself!


Ah - I guess you are now the proud owner of an FS1E.



Not quite, but almost! :-)



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Old April 4th 09, 04:47 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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In article ,
Keith G wrote:
Welcome back, Stewart. Some of us have missed you ;-)



Whaaat?


???


Don't tell me when I *finally* hook up to Usenet on a new ISP and look
in here for the first time in what - over a year? - I see *Pinky* has
returned to the fold...!!??


Crikey. Two in one day. ;-)

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Old April 4th 09, 05:27 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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Keith G wrote:
How ya doin' Pinkus? - I missed ya; this group went all polite and
boring after you left!!

(Apart from Plowie, of course.... :-))

Hi to everyone else, also - hope you are all keeping well!


Jesus H Christ; it's Keith G, and Pinkerton! What is this, a time-warp?

Hi guys.

It's been dead in here.


Martin

 




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