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Keith G[_2_] April 15th 09 09:38 PM

They said it was dead in here....
 

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Keith G wrote:
(Maybe I should start another little 'DIY project' and publicise it here
as per - it'd give Plowie summat to flick snot at, if nowt else! :-)


How many variations can you find on SET valve amps driving horn loaded
full range drivers, Keithie baby?

But since they're all perfect - according to you - why would you want to
build more? New milkman got some decent ears for once?



:-)

Nice to see you back on form!!


Andy Evans April 16th 09 12:03 AM

They said it was dead in here....
 
Hi there everyone,

I've found the two audio sites I use - DIY Audio and Audio Asylum -
are very much going strong with no noticeable change. Good news, since
they're both very good.

This site is very quiet and so is RAT.

As for ebay, I have at least a year's longitudinal data on the final
prices of all the types of valves I'm interested in, since I keep a
constant eye on the market and note it in Excel. I can say quite
definitely that for Directly Heated Triodes and old Euro rectifiers
with mesh plates the market is pretty much unchanged. That's a niche,
but it's interesting that there are such niches where robust sums of
money are still changing hands. Only in the last few days have there
been some surprisingly cheap sales, but that may be Easter.

Still, I'm glad I sold off most of my valve collection and got good
prices. Should have sold all my camera bodies - I'm going to take a
loss on those I still have (Contax if interested)

My conclusion is that there are general markets and niche markets. If
my sample is anything to go by, niche markets are still good and so
are niche newsgroups.

I'm not interested in ready built commercial stuff like amps, speakers
and the like so have no idea there. I'm strictly componants, and that
market seems pretty steady.

andy

Brian Gaff April 16th 09 06:34 AM

They said it was dead in here....
 
The problems are twofold. Firstly, nobody knows about Usenet mainly because
isps are gradually closing their servers.
Secondly web forums have taken over.
I add here that I hate web forums as they tend to all have completely
different interfaces and are hard work for us blind.
Now we hear that Windows 7 will not have anews reader bundled. you have to
download one.

Well there you go, Will usenet go the same way as Gopher?
Brian

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"Keith G" wrote in message
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And it is.

But is it 'audio', Usenet or the the Internet generally? I also hooked up
to a number of (digital) photography newsgroups and they are mostly silent
with the few that do have some traffic usually getting less than a dozen
posts a day.

Elsewhere, eBay is very flaccid these days with reams of identical
auctions from traders (mostly Chinese) and no end of secondhand items
getting no bids at all - it looks like in the UK, at least, used budget
audio gear isn't making money worth the hassle of packing it up and
lugging it to the post office!! (I've got one or two items I'll never use
again but I CBA to try and punt them - especially with the current 'credit
crunch'!)

It goes on: Most websites I've looked at recently haven't been updated for
at least 2 years and no end of cross-referenced websites come back with
the '404 tough titty' screen. A lot more Wiki pages are loaded with
disputes and queries these days and more websites and forums are asking
for donations and subscriptions; popular, 'useful' sites like the IMDB are
so plastered with advertising and pop-ups they are becoming almost too
tiresome to use

Then there's more talk of censorship and restriction at national levels -
is it the end of the Internet as we knew it...??

(Or is it now evolving into the *Disinternet* and is that a bad thing
anyway - instant access to endless everything and almost all of it not
worth the bother!!)







Eeyore April 16th 09 10:56 AM

They said it was dead in here....
 


Keith G wrote:

"Eeyore" wrote in message
Keith G wrote:
"Eeyore" wrote

Probably because secondhand audio is generally vastly outperformed by
more recent and inexpensive gear.

I don't believe it is, once you get past the lowest quality (toy) items
and 'classic' stuff (old Tannoys, for example) still makes good money.


Old Tannoys stink !


They do?


Yes.


If that's your idea of 'good sound' you must have stopped
auditioning decent hi-fi over 30 years ago.


Don't beat me up - I ain't the one buying them!


They are laughable.

Graham


Arny Krueger April 16th 09 11:08 AM

They said it was dead in here....
 
"Andy Evans" wrote in
message


I've found the two audio sites I use - DIY Audio and
Audio Asylum - are very much going strong with no
noticeable change. Good news, since they're both very
good.


The lack of intelligent life in either forum is pretty remarkable. If you
actually believe what you read there... LOL!



Keith G[_2_] April 16th 09 11:31 AM

They said it was dead in here....
 

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Andy Evans" wrote in
message



He did? Interesting, I didn't get it...

??



The lack of intelligent life in either forum is pretty remarkable. If you
actually believe what you read there... LOL!



Never mind all that rubbish, Arnie - I want you to do summat useful for
once.

I want you to have a word with your *military* about their uniforms - I
caught sight of an American General (real, not Hollywood) on the telly a few
days back (I forget the context) and I couldn't believe my eyes! Every inch
of the clown's jacket was covered in poop - buttons, badges, patches,
flashes, nameboards and sundry other gewgaws and doodads. (Not to mention
the obligatory 200+ medal ribbons!) I have never seen so much crap on
anyone's jacket before - it looked *ridiculous* and positively screamed
'look at what soppy ****s we are, come and attack us anytime'...!!

(I wonder what was on the back - a label saying 'Please See Other
Side'...!!?? :-)


Keith G[_2_] April 16th 09 11:32 AM

They said it was dead in here....
 

"Arny Krueger" wrote

It's true that most HTML forums moderate retroactively,


:-)



Keith G[_2_] April 16th 09 11:33 AM

They said it was dead in here....
 

"Eeyore" wrote in message
...


Keith G wrote:

"Eeyore" wrote in message
Keith G wrote:
"Eeyore" wrote

Probably because secondhand audio is generally vastly outperformed
by
more recent and inexpensive gear.

I don't believe it is, once you get past the lowest quality (toy)
items
and 'classic' stuff (old Tannoys, for example) still makes good money.

Old Tannoys stink !


They do?


Yes.


If that's your idea of 'good sound' you must have stopped
auditioning decent hi-fi over 30 years ago.


Don't beat me up - I ain't the one buying them!


They are laughable.



Better tell the Japs, then - they've been buying them up for decades!!




Keith G[_2_] April 16th 09 11:37 AM

They said it was dead in here....
 

"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
m...
The problems are twofold. Firstly, nobody knows about Usenet mainly
because isps are gradually closing their servers.
Secondly web forums have taken over.
I add here that I hate web forums as they tend to all have completely
different interfaces and are hard work for us blind.
Now we hear that Windows 7 will not have anews reader bundled. you have
to download one.

Well there you go, Will usenet go the same way as Gopher?



No idea - what's Gopher?

All I know is there is no fun in here but what I make! :-)

Not surprising really - once 'digital' gets a hold of anything, it all evens
out pretty quick and soon there is nothing to discuss. It's a pity *bland*
and uninteresting is an inescapable part of the 'digital equation'....


Dave Plowman (News) April 16th 09 01:16 PM

They said it was dead in here....
 
In article ,
Keith G wrote:
Old Tannoys stink !


They do?


Yes.


If that's your idea of 'good sound' you must have stopped
auditioning decent hi-fi over 30 years ago.

Don't beat me up - I ain't the one buying them!


They are laughable.



Better tell the Japs, then - they've been buying them up for decades!!


People collect antique guns too. But not to use.

--
*Speak softly and carry a cellular phone *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.


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