"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Keith G wrote:
(Maybe I should start another little 'DIY project' and publicise it here
as per - it'd give Plowie summat to flick snot at, if nowt else! :-)

How many variations can you find on SET valve amps driving horn loaded
full range drivers, Keithie baby?

But since they're all perfect - according to you - why would you want to
build more? New milkman got some decent ears for once?


:-)

Nice to see you back on form!!

In article 4a1eed74.780223781@localhost, Don Pearce
scribeth thus
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 14:16:01 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

And it is.

But is it 'audio', Usenet or the the Internet generally? I also hooked up to
a number of (digital) photography newsgroups and they are mostly silent with
the few that do have some traffic usually getting less than a dozen posts a
day.

Elsewhere, eBay is very flaccid these days with reams of identical auctions
from traders (mostly Chinese) and no end of secondhand items getting no bids
at all - it looks like in the UK, at least, used budget audio gear isn't
making money worth the hassle of packing it up and lugging it to the post
office!! (I've got one or two items I'll never use again but I CBA to try
and punt them - especially with the current 'credit crunch'!)

It goes on: Most websites I've looked at recently haven't been updated for
at least 2 years and no end of cross-referenced websites come back with the
'404 tough titty' screen. A lot more Wiki pages are loaded with disputes and
queries these days and more websites and forums are asking for donations and
subscriptions; popular, 'useful' sites like the IMDB are so plastered with
advertising and pop-ups they are becoming almost too tiresome to use

Then there's more talk of censorship and restriction at national levels - is
it the end of the Internet as we knew it...??

(Or is it now evolving into the *Disinternet* and is that a bad thing
anyway - instant access to endless everything and almost all of it not worth
the bother!!)




I think everyone is feeling the squeeze and retreating into their
shells. Most people certainly won't be buying trivial stuff like audio
gear when they could be out of a job next week. I now regard things
audio as commodities - I have my system and see no reason to change
it,

Ditto cars .. our umpteen old Audi and Volvo are still performing fine
so I can't see any reason to change them, and keeping up with Mr Jones,
yes we have that ex Neve Mr Jones across the way, isn't an issue and
he's not got a new motah every year either;!...

so the interest I have for advancing is in recording techniques -
plus of course


practicing the instruments (of which I have bought a
few over the last year).


Now thats a good waste of time)...
--
Tony Sayer

tony sayer wrote:

Ditto cars .. our umpteen old Audi and Volvo are still performing fine
so I can't see any reason to change them, and keeping up with Mr Jones,
yes we have that ex Neve Mr Jones across the way, isn't an issue and
he's not got a new motah every year either;!...

Reminds me. I must phone Martin again soon. Indeed he wouldn't be one to be
'showy', except with his intellect ! ;~)

Graham

On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 17:40:11 +0100, tony sayer
wrote:

I think everyone is feeling the squeeze and retreating into their
shells. Most people certainly won't be buying trivial stuff like audio
gear when they could be out of a job next week. I now regard things
audio as commodities - I have my system and see no reason to change
it,

Ditto cars .. our umpteen old Audi and Volvo are still performing fine
so I can't see any reason to change them, and keeping up with Mr Jones,
yes we have that ex Neve Mr Jones across the way, isn't an issue and
he's not got a new motah every year either;!...


For me and audio it wasn't a matter of keeping up with the Joneses - I
was simply an early adopter. I was cured of that in a big way by DAB -
shelled out a fortune for an Arcam radio which now lives in a
cupboard.

so the interest I have for advancing is in recording techniques -
plus of course


practicing the instruments (of which I have bought a
few over the last year).


Now thats a good waste of time)...
--

Oh yes!

d

In article 4a2119de.791588828@localhost,
Don Pearce wrote:
For me and audio it wasn't a matter of keeping up with the Joneses - I
was simply an early adopter. I was cured of that in a big way by DAB -
shelled out a fortune for an Arcam radio which now lives in a
cupboard.

Assuming you got DAB early on you didn't like it at the higher bitrates?

--
*If PROGRESS is for advancement, what does that make CONGRESS mean?

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 19:28:54 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article 4a2119de.791588828@localhost,
Don Pearce wrote:
For me and audio it wasn't a matter of keeping up with the Joneses - I
was simply an early adopter. I was cured of that in a big way by DAB -
shelled out a fortune for an Arcam radio which now lives in a
cupboard.

Assuming you got DAB early on you didn't like it at the higher bitrates?

I got DAB very early and DID like it at the higher bit rates. It was
as the bit rates started to slide away that I fell out of love. Now I
am much happier with what I get off Freeview (S/PDIF connection into
the amplifier rather than using the box to decode).

d

For me and audio it wasn't a matter of keeping up with the Joneses - I
was simply an early adopter. I was cured of that in a big way by DAB -
shelled out a fortune for an Arcam radio which now lives in a
cupboard.


If its any consolation you weren't the only one..

I got rid of mine, swapped it for a laptop..

Still the Germans do MP2 transmission rather well on satellite
MP2 audio at 334 K Bits..

And 5:1 surround at 441K IIRC...


so the interest I have for advancing is in recording techniques -
plus of course


practicing the instruments (of which I have bought a
few over the last year).


Now thats a good waste of time)...
--

Oh yes!

d

--
Tony Sayer

In article ,
Keith G wrote:
And it is.

But is it 'audio', Usenet or the the Internet generally? I also hooked
up to a number of (digital) photography newsgroups and they are mostly
silent with the few that do have some traffic usually getting less than
a dozen posts a day.

My estimate is newsgroup use (based on those I subscribe to) has dropped
by one half from the peak of some years ago. My newsreader tells me how
many articles it has expired each day - so pretty easy to get an estimate
from that.

I'd say website based forums have increased by more than this decline -
the ease of posting pics and data being one obvious reason.

--
*Everybody lies, but it doesn't matter since nobody listens*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Keith G wrote:
And it is.

But is it 'audio', Usenet or the the Internet generally? I also hooked
up to a number of (digital) photography newsgroups and they are mostly
silent with the few that do have some traffic usually getting less than
a dozen posts a day.

My estimate is newsgroup use (based on those I subscribe to) has dropped
by one half from the peak of some years ago. My newsreader tells me how
many articles it has expired each day - so pretty easy to get an estimate
from that.

I'd say website based forums have increased by more than this decline -
the ease of posting pics and data being one obvious reason.


Sure. The photography forums are certainly going like trains but the
'bandwidth burners' posting endless reams of (frequently) very crappy pix
(which all get 'quoted' by clowns who know no better) are melting the
icecaps...

Keith G wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote
Keith G wrote:
And it is.

But is it 'audio', Usenet or the the Internet generally? I also hooked
up to a number of (digital) photography newsgroups and they are mostly
silent with the few that do have some traffic usually getting less than
a dozen posts a day.

My estimate is newsgroup use (based on those I subscribe to) has dropped
by one half from the peak of some years ago. My newsreader tells me how
many articles it has expired each day - so pretty easy to get an estimate
from that.

I'd say website based forums have increased by more than this decline -
the ease of posting pics and data being one obvious reason.

Sure. The photography forums are certainly going like trains but the
'bandwidth burners' posting endless reams of (frequently) very crappy pix
(which all get 'quoted' by clowns who know no better) are melting the
icecaps...

Forums clowns. No question.

Graham