On Sun, 3 May 2009 10:39:31 +0100, "David Looser"
wrote:

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Sat, 02 May 2009 17:10:09 GMT, Rob
wrote:

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Which is a similar sensation I'd experience when valves are in the
amplification chain. I know (before you start!) that that doesn't
compute. It gives me a very believable notion of instruments (etc) and
spatial perspective.

Rob

Not sure what you mean. It's only voltage signals going through the
valves, so what they do to one, they must do to all. So do you mean
that everything sounds a bit further away with valves?


I'm going to make myself unpopular for saying it, but what I suspect Rob
really means is that he gets a similar sensation when he knows (or believes)
there are valves in the amplification chain.


But a similar sensation to what? My clip has five versions, all with
different proportions of reverb. Do you think he is saying the effect
is similar to the first, the last, or one in between. It can't just be
"similar".

d

Don Pearce wrote:
On Sun, 3 May 2009 10:39:31 +0100, "David Looser"
wrote:

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Sat, 02 May 2009 17:10:09 GMT, Rob
wrote:
d
Which is a similar sensation I'd experience when valves are in the
amplification chain. I know (before you start!) that that doesn't
compute. It gives me a very believable notion of instruments (etc) and
spatial perspective.

Rob
Not sure what you mean. It's only voltage signals going through the
valves, so what they do to one, they must do to all. So do you mean
that everything sounds a bit further away with valves?

I'm going to make myself unpopular for saying it, but what I suspect Rob
really means is that he gets a similar sensation when he knows (or believes)
there are valves in the amplification chain.


But a similar sensation to what? My clip has five versions, all with
different proportions of reverb. Do you think he is saying the effect
is similar to the first, the last, or one in between. It can't just be
"similar".


I could have been clearer. The sensation is similar to reverb, albeit
very light, and much more pleasant.

Rob

On Sun, 03 May 2009 10:21:10 GMT, Rob
wrote:

Don Pearce wrote:
On Sun, 3 May 2009 10:39:31 +0100, "David Looser"
wrote:

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
news:4a017ee2.19235296@localhost...
On Sat, 02 May 2009 17:10:09 GMT, Rob
wrote:
d
Which is a similar sensation I'd experience when valves are in the
amplification chain. I know (before you start!) that that doesn't
compute. It gives me a very believable notion of instruments (etc) and
spatial perspective.

Rob
Not sure what you mean. It's only voltage signals going through the
valves, so what they do to one, they must do to all. So do you mean
that everything sounds a bit further away with valves?

I'm going to make myself unpopular for saying it, but what I suspect Rob
really means is that he gets a similar sensation when he knows (or believes)
there are valves in the amplification chain.


But a similar sensation to what? My clip has five versions, all with
different proportions of reverb. Do you think he is saying the effect
is similar to the first, the last, or one in between. It can't just be
"similar".


I could have been clearer. The sensation is similar to reverb, albeit
very light, and much more pleasant.

Well, that would be an "effect", that might or might not make things
sound better, depending. If I had an amplifier that did that to
everything, it would be on ebay faster than I could say "rubbish".

d

"Don Pearce" wrote


snip the **** boys - it's killing the planet


Well, that would be an "effect", that might or might not make things
sound better, depending. If I had an amplifier that did that to
everything, it would be on ebay faster than I could say "rubbish".


The old 'It may be ****e, but at least it's accurate!' argument, eh? :-)

On Sun, 3 May 2009 14:16:23 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote


snip the **** boys - it's killing the planet


Well, that would be an "effect", that might or might not make things
sound better, depending. If I had an amplifier that did that to
everything, it would be on ebay faster than I could say "rubbish".


The old 'It may be ****e, but at least it's accurate!' argument, eh? :-)

No, the old "it may be ****e - that's because it is inaccurate"
argument.

d

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Sun, 3 May 2009 14:16:23 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote


snip the **** boys - it's killing the planet


Well, that would be an "effect", that might or might not make things
sound better, depending. If I had an amplifier that did that to
everything, it would be on ebay faster than I could say "rubbish".


The old 'It may be ****e, but at least it's accurate!' argument, eh? :-)

No, the old "it may be ****e - that's because it is inaccurate"
argument.


No-one should listen to ****e if they can afford not to!