In article ,
Iain Churches wrote:
The idea is to hear the sound of the instrument, straight from the
pickup as I stated previously.

Using a DI doesn't give the sound of the instrument, though, Iain.

The sound from the pickup, without any possible additional
colouration from amp, and mic is what I suggested you evaluate.
Your valiant attempts at blowing smoke did not go un-noticed:-)).

Is stating that your 'test' is not of this world so pointless blowing
smoke, Iain? You might as well use an oscillator. A bass guitar simply
isn't a musical instrument *without* the addition of electronics, so
saying one speaker or another makes its electrical output 'sound better'
only has relevance to that individual bass gutter. So a total red herring
to this discussion. But then you have red herring coming out of every
sleeve. Tommy Cooper would have been proud of you...

It's all pretty academic really, as you almost
certainly will not bother to make the comparison I described:-)

It is indeed.

Do the test with the ESL and then tell me your thoughts.

BTW Dave. In the ten years or so that I have been following
this NG, I must have read hundreds of your posts - but not one
AFAICR has ever mentioned music. What do you listen to?

I try and keep vaguely on topic, Iain. This is a group for discussing
*audio*. There are thousands of groups out there for those that want to
discuss music. And motorbikes. And cyclists being killed. And old films.
And dead comedians. Even one dedicated to discussing vinyl.

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In article ,
Iain Churches wrote:
The idea is to hear the sound of the instrument, straight from the
pickup as I stated previously.

Using a DI doesn't give the sound of the instrument, though, Iain.

The sound from the pickup, without any possible additional
colouration from amp, and mic is what I suggested you evaluate.
Your valiant attempts at blowing smoke did not go un-noticed:-)).

Is stating that your 'test' is not of this world so pointless blowing
smoke, Iain? You might as well use an oscillator. A bass guitar simply
isn't a musical instrument *without* the addition of electronics, so
saying one speaker or another makes its electrical output 'sound better'
only has relevance to that individual bass gutter. So a total red herring
to this discussion. But then you have red herring coming out of every
sleeve. Tommy Cooper would have been proud of you...

I simply outlined to you the Rickenbacker/DI experiment which
many of us have seen and heard done with a number of speakers
at various demos and workshop session.

One is simply comparing two relatively clean low notes B1, without
the added complication of amp, instrument speaker and microphone.
This is a very good way to show up the shortcomings of the ESL.
I fully understand your relauctance to accept this.

It's all pretty academic really, as you almost
certainly will not bother to make the comparison I described:-)

It is indeed.

Do the test with the ESL and then tell me your thoughts.

BTW Dave. In the ten years or so that I have been following
this NG, I must have read hundreds of your posts - but not one
AFAICR has ever mentioned music. What do you listen to?

I try and keep vaguely on topic, Iain. This is a group for discussing
*audio*.

And what is the objective of audio if not listening to music?
The two topics are tightly interwoven..

So maybe it *is* Match of the Day and re-runs of
The Archers as one wag suggested? :-))

Iain

In article ,
Iain Churches wrote:
Is stating that your 'test' is not of this world so pointless blowing
smoke, Iain? You might as well use an oscillator. A bass guitar simply
isn't a musical instrument *without* the addition of electronics, so
saying one speaker or another makes its electrical output 'sound
better' only has relevance to that individual bass gutter. So a total
red herring to this discussion. But then you have red herring coming
out of every sleeve. Tommy Cooper would have been proud of you...

I simply outlined to you the Rickenbacker/DI experiment which
many of us have seen and heard done with a number of speakers
at various demos and workshop session.

Why not use a test set of some description? Just as much relevance to real
world audio.

One is simply comparing two relatively clean low notes B1, without
the added complication of amp, instrument speaker and microphone.
This is a very good way to show up the shortcomings of the ESL.
I fully understand your relauctance to accept this.

And other tests to show up the shortcomings of your 'pet' speaker?

It's all pretty academic really, as you almost
certainly will not bother to make the comparison I described:-)

It is indeed.

Do the test with the ESL and then tell me your thoughts.

BTW Dave. In the ten years or so that I have been following
this NG, I must have read hundreds of your posts - but not one
AFAICR has ever mentioned music. What do you listen to?

I try and keep vaguely on topic, Iain. This is a group for discussing
*audio*.

And what is the objective of audio if not listening to music?
The two topics are tightly interwoven..

But you asked about my choice of music. Nothing to do with audio. Doubt
you'd see the difference, though.

So maybe it *is* Match of the Day and re-runs of
The Archers as one wag suggested? :-))

They too include audio. And will likely sound rather better on an ESL...

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.