I have 2 x B&W DM620i loudspeakers (8 Ohm, 25-100 Watt continu), which I
paln to use as frontspeakers. Also I have 2 x Magnat project 4.1
loudspeakers type 2 (4-8 Ohm, 140-250 Watt), which I intend to use as
rearspeakers.

also I have 2 x Sony S-SE 455 V loudspeakers (8 Ohm, 200
W) with centerspeaker Sony SSC-CN55 (8 Ohm, 200 Watt).

I am considering to nuy one of the following 3 DTS audio-video receivers:

Harman Kardon AVR155 now 358 euro, AVR347 now 329 euro en de AVR355
now 530 euro.

I am going to use this receiver in combination with the WD TV HD Media
Player, see http://www.wdc.com/en/library/wdtv/NLD/UserManual.pdf.

I use it for bluray movies.
I also will use it as an audioreciever foor playing CD's, etc.

Which AV receiver sholud I choose and why?
Should I also consider to look at Denon, because I now have all HIFI
stuff from Denon, being 15 years old but still good.

Best regard,

Eric

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Blacknikon wrote:
I have 2 x B&W DM620i loudspeakers (8 Ohm, 25-100 Watt continu), which I
paln to use as frontspeakers. Also I have 2 x Magnat project 4.1
loudspeakers type 2 (4-8 Ohm, 140-250 Watt), which I intend to use as
rearspeakers.

also I have 2 x Sony S-SE 455 V loudspeakers (8 Ohm, 200
W) with centerspeaker Sony SSC-CN55 (8 Ohm, 200 Watt).

I am considering to nuy one of the following 3 DTS audio-video receivers:

Harman Kardon AVR155 now 358 euro, AVR347 now 329 euro en de AVR355
now 530 euro.

I am going to use this receiver in combination with the WD TV HD Media
Player, see http://www.wdc.com/en/library/wdtv/NLD/UserManual.pdf.

I use it for bluray movies.
I also will use it as an audioreciever foor playing CD's, etc.

Which AV receiver sholud I choose and why?
Should I also consider to look at Denon, because I now have all HIFI
stuff from Denon, being 15 years old but still good.

Only comment I'd make is I found the choice of a centre dialogue speaker
very important - it has to match the main pair pretty well if you want a
reasonably integrated sound stage.

Eric

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On Sat, 16 May 2009 09:32:00 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

Only comment I'd make is I found the choice of a centre dialogue speaker
very important - it has to match the main pair pretty well if you want a
reasonably integrated sound stage.

Easier said than done. In 90% of systems the centre speaker seems to
honk rather than make a decent sound. Just a result of having to be so
small, I guess.

d

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Sat, 16 May 2009 09:32:00 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

Only comment I'd make is I found the choice of a centre dialogue speaker
very important - it has to match the main pair pretty well if you want a
reasonably integrated sound stage.

Easier said than done. In 90% of systems the centre speaker seems to
honk rather than make a decent sound. Just a result of having to be so
small, I guess.


Why does it have to be "so small"?

David.

On Sat, 16 May 2009 10:04:48 +0100, "David Looser"
wrote:

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Sat, 16 May 2009 09:32:00 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

Only comment I'd make is I found the choice of a centre dialogue speaker
very important - it has to match the main pair pretty well if you want a
reasonably integrated sound stage.

Easier said than done. In 90% of systems the centre speaker seems to
honk rather than make a decent sound. Just a result of having to be so
small, I guess.


Why does it have to be "so small"?


Something to do with acceptability to wives.

d

Don Pearce wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2009 09:32:00 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

Only comment I'd make is I found the choice of a centre dialogue speaker
very important - it has to match the main pair pretty well if you want a
reasonably integrated sound stage.

Easier said than done. In 90% of systems the centre speaker seems to
honk rather than make a decent sound. Just a result of having to be so
small, I guess.

My cheap Yamaha receiver has a graphic equalizer menu for the centre speaker,
and of course it can route bass to the sub channel or the main front speakers,
so no honking here, except when using the 6-channel-direct inputs.

Of course there's no honking anyway as I have 5 dual-concentric Tannoys for my TV.

--
Eiron.

On Sat, 16 May 2009 10:16:21 +0100, Eiron wrote:

Don Pearce wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2009 09:32:00 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

Only comment I'd make is I found the choice of a centre dialogue speaker
very important - it has to match the main pair pretty well if you want a
reasonably integrated sound stage.

Easier said than done. In 90% of systems the centre speaker seems to
honk rather than make a decent sound. Just a result of having to be so
small, I guess.

My cheap Yamaha receiver has a graphic equalizer menu for the centre speaker,
and of course it can route bass to the sub channel or the main front speakers,
so no honking here, except when using the 6-channel-direct inputs.

Of course there's no honking anyway as I have 5 dual-concentric Tannoys for my TV.

Where do you put the centre front? Or are you not too fussed about
actually watching the picture?

d

Don Pearce wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2009 10:16:21 +0100, Eiron wrote:

Don Pearce wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2009 09:32:00 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

Only comment I'd make is I found the choice of a centre dialogue speaker
very important - it has to match the main pair pretty well if you want a
reasonably integrated sound stage.
Easier said than done. In 90% of systems the centre speaker seems to
honk rather than make a decent sound. Just a result of having to be so
small, I guess.
My cheap Yamaha receiver has a graphic equalizer menu for the centre speaker,
and of course it can route bass to the sub channel or the main front speakers,
so no honking here, except when using the 6-channel-direct inputs.

Of course there's no honking anyway as I have 5 dual-concentric Tannoys for my TV.

Where do you put the centre front? Or are you not too fussed about
actually watching the picture?

It's what the wife calls a compromise.
The centre speaker is to the left of the fireplace, the screen is to the right.
In an ideal world I would be investigating the acoustic properties of a projector screen
and putting the centre speaker behind it.

--
Eiron.

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Don Pearce wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2009 09:32:00 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

Only comment I'd make is I found the choice of a centre dialogue speaker
very important - it has to match the main pair pretty well if you want a
reasonably integrated sound stage.

Easier said than done. In 90% of systems the centre speaker seems to
honk rather than make a decent sound. Just a result of having to be so
small, I guess.

My cheap Yamaha receiver has a graphic equalizer menu for the centre
speaker,
and of course it can route bass to the sub channel or the main front
speakers,
so no honking here, except when using the 6-channel-direct inputs.



Shouldn't get any bass on the centre speaker to speak of, surely? When the
dialogue stops, my centre effectively goes silent.



Of course there's no honking anyway as I have 5 dual-concentric Tannoys
for my TV.


Ruark fronts; Tannoy rears and centre here - plus a Yamaha sub for the
'sonic gravy', but not too loud!

In article 4a1c7f39.957665296@localhost,
Don Pearce wrote:
Only comment I'd make is I found the choice of a centre dialogue speaker
very important - it has to match the main pair pretty well if you want a
reasonably integrated sound stage.

Easier said than done. In 90% of systems the centre speaker seems to
honk rather than make a decent sound. Just a result of having to be so
small, I guess.

Yup. In the end I didn't bother. Even when using one which was a
reasonable match I didn't like the unreal separation it gave. Of course
when watching I always have the sweet spot seat anyway. ;-)

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Dave Plowman London SW
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