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Simon Clark October 29th 03 08:48 AM

Your Music On CD
 
Hi,

I have loads of old cassettes and vinyl albums which hardly ever get
played. I don't have a turntable anymore. I do have cassette players
in the house and car but I'm so used to CDs now and not having to
rewind and being able to select individual tracks that I just don't
listen to the music on cassettes or vinyl anymore.

I have looked around the web for ideas and amongst the sites I have
found which offer to transfer old music onto CD, the service offered
by www.indicativeit.co.uk/yourmusiconcd looks quite simple and
professional.

However I am a little concerned about:
1) is it legal? Either for me to possess CD copies and for the web
site company to copy them?, and
2) I'm a little worried about posting my precious old music via the
UK's postal system. Has anyone done this to Your Music On CD or a
similar postal service and did they get their original music back ok?

Thanks, Simon

James Perrett October 29th 03 12:42 PM

Your Music On CD
 
Simon Clark wrote:

I have looked around the web for ideas and amongst the sites I have
found which offer to transfer old music onto CD, the service offered
by www.indicativeit.co.uk/yourmusiconcd looks quite simple and
professional.

However I am a little concerned about:
1) is it legal? Either for me to possess CD copies and for the web
site company to copy them?, and
2) I'm a little worried about posting my precious old music via the
UK's postal system. Has anyone done this to Your Music On CD or a
similar postal service and did they get their original music back ok?


It seems amazingly cheap for the amount of work involved but surely it
would be better to buy a CD copy of the albums you want transferred.
There are very few vinyl albums that have not been transferred to CD and
a CD recorded direct from the master tape is going to sound better than
a quick transfer from vinyl. There are plenty of online places selling
CD's for under a tenner.

Legally you aren't allowed to copy records at all in the UK (the concept
of fair use is American) but no-one is likely to worry about a single
backup copy. However, if you were to buy the CD, you could possibly also
sell the vinyl version on to a collector quite legally.

I do this kind of transfer work for people and, so far, I've found the
postal service reliable. However, even though things have been OK so
far, I don't like sending the only copy of anything through the post.

Cheers.

James.

James Perrett October 29th 03 12:42 PM

Your Music On CD
 
Simon Clark wrote:

I have looked around the web for ideas and amongst the sites I have
found which offer to transfer old music onto CD, the service offered
by www.indicativeit.co.uk/yourmusiconcd looks quite simple and
professional.

However I am a little concerned about:
1) is it legal? Either for me to possess CD copies and for the web
site company to copy them?, and
2) I'm a little worried about posting my precious old music via the
UK's postal system. Has anyone done this to Your Music On CD or a
similar postal service and did they get their original music back ok?


It seems amazingly cheap for the amount of work involved but surely it
would be better to buy a CD copy of the albums you want transferred.
There are very few vinyl albums that have not been transferred to CD and
a CD recorded direct from the master tape is going to sound better than
a quick transfer from vinyl. There are plenty of online places selling
CD's for under a tenner.

Legally you aren't allowed to copy records at all in the UK (the concept
of fair use is American) but no-one is likely to worry about a single
backup copy. However, if you were to buy the CD, you could possibly also
sell the vinyl version on to a collector quite legally.

I do this kind of transfer work for people and, so far, I've found the
postal service reliable. However, even though things have been OK so
far, I don't like sending the only copy of anything through the post.

Cheers.

James.

Jim H October 29th 03 02:39 PM

Your Music On CD
 
more from the 'James Perrett school' of uk.rec.audio-ism:

It seems amazingly cheap for the amount of work involved


Depends how they are doing it. I'd imagine an enterprising engineer could
rig a jukebox-like machine to copy many albums overnight. Acceptable
crackle removal can be done automatically for all but the most damaged
albums, and single guy couldn't record several LPs at once on a PC with 5
or so soundcards. If they are connecting to CDDB and use standard templates
track lising takes seconds.

I do this kind of transfer work for people and, so far, I've found the
postal service reliable. However, even though things have been OK so
far, I don't like sending the only copy of anything through the post.


I have copied LP to CD many times for friends around here, with excellent
results from just consumer level equipment. I would deffinately send by
courier, which might even be cheaper for a good few heavy vinyl records.

--
Jim H jh
@333
.org

Jim H October 29th 03 02:39 PM

Your Music On CD
 
more from the 'James Perrett school' of uk.rec.audio-ism:

It seems amazingly cheap for the amount of work involved


Depends how they are doing it. I'd imagine an enterprising engineer could
rig a jukebox-like machine to copy many albums overnight. Acceptable
crackle removal can be done automatically for all but the most damaged
albums, and single guy couldn't record several LPs at once on a PC with 5
or so soundcards. If they are connecting to CDDB and use standard templates
track lising takes seconds.

I do this kind of transfer work for people and, so far, I've found the
postal service reliable. However, even though things have been OK so
far, I don't like sending the only copy of anything through the post.


I have copied LP to CD many times for friends around here, with excellent
results from just consumer level equipment. I would deffinately send by
courier, which might even be cheaper for a good few heavy vinyl records.

--
Jim H jh
@333
.org

Richard Wall October 29th 03 03:55 PM

Your Music On CD
 
Dear Simon
Is it legal, in the UK ? No but you are unlikely to be prosecuted for
copying your own albums for personal use

£14.99 per album dropping to £9.99 if you have more than 10 copied. Not a
bad mark up for a 30p CD-R Even the record company give some of the money
to the artist.

Why !!! You can buy most things on CD anyway. You can buy most CDs new for
about £10. e-bay sell loads of second hand CDs from about £1
If you have to copy your own albums surely it would be cheaper to use you PC
and soundcard to burn a copy of tapes ? If you sold your turntable why keep
your records ?

Just my 2C
Regards Richard

"Simon Clark" wrote in message
om...
Hi,

I have loads of old cassettes and vinyl albums which hardly ever get
played. I don't have a turntable anymore. I do have cassette players
in the house and car but I'm so used to CDs now and not having to
rewind and being able to select individual tracks that I just don't
listen to the music on cassettes or vinyl anymore.

I have looked around the web for ideas and amongst the sites I have
found which offer to transfer old music onto CD, the service offered
by www.indicativeit.co.uk/yourmusiconcd looks quite simple and
professional.

However I am a little concerned about:
1) is it legal? Either for me to possess CD copies and for the web
site company to copy them?, and
2) I'm a little worried about posting my precious old music via the
UK's postal system. Has anyone done this to Your Music On CD or a
similar postal service and did they get their original music back ok?

Thanks, Simon




Richard Wall October 29th 03 03:55 PM

Your Music On CD
 
Dear Simon
Is it legal, in the UK ? No but you are unlikely to be prosecuted for
copying your own albums for personal use

£14.99 per album dropping to £9.99 if you have more than 10 copied. Not a
bad mark up for a 30p CD-R Even the record company give some of the money
to the artist.

Why !!! You can buy most things on CD anyway. You can buy most CDs new for
about £10. e-bay sell loads of second hand CDs from about £1
If you have to copy your own albums surely it would be cheaper to use you PC
and soundcard to burn a copy of tapes ? If you sold your turntable why keep
your records ?

Just my 2C
Regards Richard

"Simon Clark" wrote in message
om...
Hi,

I have loads of old cassettes and vinyl albums which hardly ever get
played. I don't have a turntable anymore. I do have cassette players
in the house and car but I'm so used to CDs now and not having to
rewind and being able to select individual tracks that I just don't
listen to the music on cassettes or vinyl anymore.

I have looked around the web for ideas and amongst the sites I have
found which offer to transfer old music onto CD, the service offered
by www.indicativeit.co.uk/yourmusiconcd looks quite simple and
professional.

However I am a little concerned about:
1) is it legal? Either for me to possess CD copies and for the web
site company to copy them?, and
2) I'm a little worried about posting my precious old music via the
UK's postal system. Has anyone done this to Your Music On CD or a
similar postal service and did they get their original music back ok?

Thanks, Simon




Dave Plowman October 29th 03 05:18 PM

Your Music On CD
 
In article ,
Jim H wrote:
Depends how they are doing it. I'd imagine an enterprising engineer
could rig a jukebox-like machine to copy many albums overnight.


An LP jukebox? Did such a thing ever exist?

--
*Does fuzzy logic tickle? *

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

Dave Plowman October 29th 03 05:18 PM

Your Music On CD
 
In article ,
Jim H wrote:
Depends how they are doing it. I'd imagine an enterprising engineer
could rig a jukebox-like machine to copy many albums overnight.


An LP jukebox? Did such a thing ever exist?

--
*Does fuzzy logic tickle? *

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

Simon Clark October 29th 03 05:21 PM

Your Music On CD
 
James Perrett wrote in message ...
It seems amazingly cheap for the amount of work involved but surely it
would be better to buy a CD copy of the albums you want transferred.
There are very few vinyl albums that have not been transferred to CD and
a CD recorded direct from the master tape is going to sound better than
a quick transfer from vinyl. There are plenty of online places selling
CD's for under a tenner.

Legally you aren't allowed to copy records at all in the UK (the concept
of fair use is American) but no-one is likely to worry about a single
backup copy. However, if you were to buy the CD, you could possibly also
sell the vinyl version on to a collector quite legally.

I do this kind of transfer work for people and, so far, I've found the
postal service reliable. However, even though things have been OK so
far, I don't like sending the only copy of anything through the post.


Thanks James, Jim & Richard for your replies.

I guess the appeal of Your Music on CD's service is that it is not
really any more expensive than buying replacements CDs and I don't
have to search out suppliers. I just post off my albums/cassettes -
request special delivery so that any damage occuring during posting is
at least covered, and a few days later I get my music on CD.

To be honest, so long as the sound quality is as good as what it was
when it played on my old turntable, I'd be happy. The CDs are mainly
going to be played in the car anyway.

As regards the legality - I don't plan to sell the original media for
sentimental reasons. However I don't particularily want to have to pay
for the same albums again on different media just to continue
listening to them. The CD copies could just be considered a backup to
protect against wear and tear of the original media. In the past I've
lost some original cassettes because the tape has got mangled in a
player.

Has anyone used Your Music on CD's service here?

Simon


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