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Arny Krueger May 29th 09 11:17 AM

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"Iain Churches" wrote in message

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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I have never
met anyone with even the most casual interest in sound
or recording who didn't own at least one.


The kind of casbles I am talking about are 50/100m
XLR/XLR or multiway 50/100s on drums. Just the thing for
a penthouse in Swiss Cottage or a posh town house in
Brighton:-)


You're changing your story, Iain.

backpedal, dissemble, backpedal, dissemble...



Arny Krueger May 29th 09 11:20 AM

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in
message
In article 4a3daeea.975230593@localhost,
Don Pearce wrote:
Well, my Hampstead penthouse (ok, normal house - much
better than a penthouse, I think ;-) has quite a few
100m XLR/XLR cables. They live in a cupboard under the
stairs most of the time.


We use riggers for that sort of lengths. ;-)


I have none, either at home or at work. The longest run is 150'.

My snakes are 150' x 2 (semi-permanently emplaced), 1x100' (semi-permanently
emplaced), and 1 x 50' (portable). They are all 12 x 4, 2 all XLR, the
other two have TRS returns,.



Arny Krueger May 29th 09 11:23 AM

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"Keith G" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in
message
In article
, Arny
Krueger wrote:
Iain held some kind of administrative position within
the recording industry that infrequently got his name
in the credits sections of a few albums. But, when it
comes to choosing, cabling and positioning recording
equipment, listening, and adjusting knobs until things
sound right, Iain has never ever been allowed by
anybody with brains to even try. And, he's lacked the
curiosity and initiative it would to ever try it on
his own. Compared to Iain, Keith is a technical genius.


I make no claims about 'technical ability'* but if I were
you and had 'Domine Pt2' floating about the ether I'd
keep very quiet about it, especially after so much
bragging about all the 'pro recording' I'd done, over the
last few decades.


Trust me, those recordings were well-received by the people who paid for
them. They were looking for a certain sound and they've got it. Like it or
not, they were a reasonably accurate representation of the live performance.
A piece of friendly advice - never go to a choir or band festival. It won't
sound like the Philharmonic!

Do I know how to make a more commercial sound? Of course!



Laurence Payne[_2_] May 29th 09 05:45 PM

Frequency Response of the Ear
 
On Fri, 29 May 2009 07:09:42 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

Yes, but Arny's asking Iain to come up with the receipt
(or whatever) to prove the falsifiability of his own
claim - that ain't right, is it?


Without proof, there is no way to tell truth from lies.


A strange statement from a Christian :-)

Arny Krueger May 29th 09 08:59 PM

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"Laurence Payne" wrote in message

On Fri, 29 May 2009 07:09:42 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

Yes, but Arny's asking Iain to come up with the receipt
(or whatever) to prove the falsifiability of his own
claim - that ain't right, is it?


Without proof, there is no way to tell truth from lies.


A strange statement from a Christian :-)


This context is temporal, not spiritual. :-(



Keith G[_2_] May 30th 09 01:59 PM

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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Keith G" wrote in message


Yes, but Arny's asking Iain to come up with the receipt
(or whatever) to prove the falsifiability of his own
claim - that ain't right, is it?


Without proof, there is no way to tell truth from lies.

Iain made the claim - let him prove it. Otherwise, he's just talking
trash. Given his track record for talking trash - he's likely talking
trash.

BTW Iain's claim - that neither gentleman has ever owned a mic or a mic
cable was a stupid claim to make. It's a negative hypothesis and everybody
with a brain (which excludes many here) knows that negative claims are
difficult or impossible to prove.



The trouble with 'proof' either way is that you need to be able to trust
it - it's been a while since we saw a 'Blind Russian scientist watches telly
with the soles of his feet' or 'Yanks put a man on the moon and say it's
*not* green cheese' headline....

;-)




Keith G[_2_] June 1st 09 10:50 AM

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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Keith G" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in
message
In article
, Arny
Krueger wrote:
Iain held some kind of administrative position within
the recording industry that infrequently got his name
in the credits sections of a few albums. But, when it
comes to choosing, cabling and positioning recording
equipment, listening, and adjusting knobs until things
sound right, Iain has never ever been allowed by
anybody with brains to even try. And, he's lacked the
curiosity and initiative it would to ever try it on
his own. Compared to Iain, Keith is a technical genius.


I make no claims about 'technical ability'* but if I were
you and had 'Domine Pt2' floating about the ether I'd
keep very quiet about it, especially after so much
bragging about all the 'pro recording' I'd done, over the
last few decades.


Trust me, those recordings were well-received by the people who paid for
them. They were looking for a certain sound and they've got it. Like it or
not, they were a reasonably accurate representation of the live
performance. A piece of friendly advice - never go to a choir or band
festival. It won't sound like the Philharmonic!

Do I know how to make a more commercial sound? Of course!



To me, that translates: 'It's crap. I know it's crap; I can do better but
the clowns like it as it is, so why should I bother?

Or am I missing summat...??




Arny Krueger June 2nd 09 12:09 PM

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"Keith G" wrote in message


To me, that translates: 'It's crap. I know it's crap; I
can do better but the clowns like it as it is, so why
should I bother?


Or am I missing summat...??


As usual, you are missing a ton of wisdom here, Kitty.

When you listen to recordings, Kitty you are looking for a certain sound.
What makes that sound that you prefer better than any other sound? Mostly,
you like that particular sound because it is what you have grown accustomed
to. Being somewhat down on self-awareness, you have deified your preference
for a certain sound. Nothing but that sound seems right to you. You tell us
this all the time. This partially explains your preference for vinyl kitty.
Vinyl in general is not very good sound, but its the sound that you have
deified in your own mind.

In the case of a HS choir director or festival judge, unlike what you say
with your posturing kitty, they are fully aware of the that they are not
listening to the Mormon Tabernacle Choir singing in the Mormon Tabernacle.

If I delivered a CD of their HS choir singing in their HS auditorium, that
sounded like the Mormon Tabernacle Choir singing in the Mormon Tabernacle,
they'd know that something was *very* wrong. Just because you kitty, John,
Iain and the Aussie trolls, are so stupid as to expect a HS choir singing in
a HS auditorium, to sound like the Mormon Tabernacle Choir singing in the
Mormon Tabernacle, doesn't mean that people who are self-aware have to
behave as ridiculously as you do.




Keith G[_2_] June 2nd 09 12:52 PM

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"Arny Krueger" staggered from a massive *Hubris Attack*,
drank some cold water, recovered and wrote in message
...
"Keith G" wrote in message


To me, that translates: 'It's crap. I know it's crap; I
can do better but the clowns like it as it is, so why
should I bother?


Or am I missing summat...??


As usual, you are missing a ton of wisdom here, Kitty.

When you listen to recordings, Kitty you are looking for a certain sound.
What makes that sound that you prefer better than any other sound? Mostly,
you like that particular sound because it is what you have grown
accustomed to. Being somewhat down on self-awareness, you have deified
your preference for a certain sound. Nothing but that sound seems right to
you. You tell us this all the time. This partially explains your
preference for vinyl kitty. Vinyl in general is not very good sound, but
its the sound that you have deified in your own mind.

In the case of a HS choir director or festival judge, unlike what you say
with your posturing kitty, they are fully aware of the that they are not
listening to the Mormon Tabernacle Choir singing in the Mormon Tabernacle.

If I delivered a CD of their HS choir singing in their HS auditorium, that
sounded like the Mormon Tabernacle Choir singing in the Mormon Tabernacle,
they'd know that something was *very* wrong. Just because you kitty, John,
Iain and the Aussie trolls, are so stupid as to expect a HS choir singing
in a HS auditorium, to sound like the Mormon Tabernacle Choir singing in
the Mormon Tabernacle, doesn't mean that people who are self-aware have to
behave as ridiculously as you do.



OK, Arny - thanks for explaining all that, I think I understand now.

So it's more a case of 'It's crap. I know it's crap; I can do better but
it's a skanky gig, the clowns are nobodies and they like it as it is, so why
should I bother? Is that better??

Btw, I think I can see some spittle on your chin - you might want to wipe it
off....??

:-)

(Aside: How TF did this idiot ever get to see himself as a
*professional*...???)



Iain Churches[_2_] June 2nd 09 01:09 PM

Frequency Response of the Ear
 

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...


If I delivered a CD of their HS choir singing in their HS auditorium, that
sounded like the Mormon Tabernacle Choir singing in the Mormon Tabernacle,
they'd know that something was *very* wrong. Just because you kitty, John,
Iain and the Aussie trolls, are so stupid as to expect a HS choir singing
in a HS auditorium, to sound like the Mormon Tabernacle Choir singing in
the Mormon Tabernacle, doesn't mean that people who are self-aware have to
behave as ridiculously as you do.


No one expects your Baptist choir to sound like
the Mormon Tabernacle Choir, the choir of King's
College Cambridge or the Russian Orthodox
Choir of Kiev-Pechersk Lavra, but they *do*
expect a recording made by a a man who claims
to be a professional, to sound like -
a professional recording.

Iain






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