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Balanced connections on domestic equipment.



 
 
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Old June 12th 09, 09:31 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman (News)
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Default Balanced connections on domestic equipment.

In article ,
Eeyore wrote:
Nothing wrong with balanced of course - it's the pro standard -
but a bit OTT for domestic use.


Not at all. A balanced input and output can be made for mere pence more
than unbalanced ones and can solve a whole host of problems.


Mere pence when you include decent XLRs? Love to know where you buy them
for that...

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Old June 23rd 09, 01:24 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
Nothing wrong with balanced of course - it's the pro standard -
but a bit OTT for domestic use.


Not at all. A balanced input and output can be made for mere pence more
than unbalanced ones and can solve a whole host of problems.


Mere pence when you include decent XLRs? Love to know where you buy them
for that...


Do you know how cheap the Chinese copy XLRs are now ? They're perfectly
decent for the job. A tiny fraction of the cost of an idiotic Monster etc
cable with an equally idiotic RCA connector on the end of it.

Graham


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Old June 11th 09, 03:28 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Bill Taylor
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Default Balanced connections on domestic equipment.

On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 14:29:35 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

A thread on another group suggested that these are the norm today. Not
being one who avidly reads the Hi-Fi press, is this so? The poster was
adamant it was the *only* way to feed 5.1 speakers etc that have internal
amps, as unbalanced would cause hum etc. This was from the US, though.


It's quite common for half decent subs to have an XLR connection as
well as phono. Some of the Meridian processors use balanced
connections (although they'd rather you used SPDIF to their speakers!)
and a few other very expensive bits of kit do, but phonos are still
the norm.
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Old June 11th 09, 03:34 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
David Looser
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Default Balanced connections on domestic equipment.

"Bill Taylor" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 14:29:35 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

A thread on another group suggested that these are the norm today. Not
being one who avidly reads the Hi-Fi press, is this so? The poster was
adamant it was the *only* way to feed 5.1 speakers etc that have internal
amps, as unbalanced would cause hum etc. This was from the US, though.


It's quite common for half decent subs to have an XLR connection as
well as phono.


I'd have thought that "half-decent subs" would be passive, driven by an
external 19" rack-mounted power amp.

David.


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Old June 11th 09, 05:58 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Bill Taylor
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Default Balanced connections on domestic equipment.

On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:34:57 +0100, "David Looser"
wrote:

"Bill Taylor" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 14:29:35 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

A thread on another group suggested that these are the norm today. Not
being one who avidly reads the Hi-Fi press, is this so? The poster was
adamant it was the *only* way to feed 5.1 speakers etc that have internal
amps, as unbalanced would cause hum etc. This was from the US, though.


It's quite common for half decent subs to have an XLR connection as
well as phono.


I'd have thought that "half-decent subs" would be passive, driven by an
external 19" rack-mounted power amp.

David.


They may be in the cinema sector, but in domestic audio the PA is
usually built into the speaker enclosure.

Bill
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Old June 11th 09, 06:52 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Arny Krueger
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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A thread on another group suggested that these are the norm today.


no way!

Not
being one who avidly reads the Hi-Fi press, is this so? The poster was
adamant it was the *only* way to feed 5.1 speakers etc that have internal
amps, as unbalanced would cause hum etc. This was from the US, though.



RCA jacks are unfortunately still alive and well in the USA.


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Old June 11th 09, 07:06 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Iain Churches[_2_]
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...


A thread on another group suggested that these are the norm today.


no way!

Not
being one who avidly reads the Hi-Fi press, is this so? The poster was
adamant it was the *only* way to feed 5.1 speakers etc that have internal
amps, as unbalanced would cause hum etc. This was from the US, though.



RCA jacks are unfortunately still alive and well in the USA.


That seems to be the situation everywhere, Arny.
Is it normal in the US to refer to RCA connectors as jacks?
That seems open to confusíon. What do you call the
TRS plug which we refer to as a jack?

Iain


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Old June 11th 09, 07:19 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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"Iain Churches" wrote in message
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...


A thread on another group suggested that these are the norm today.


no way!

Not
being one who avidly reads the Hi-Fi press, is this so? The poster was
adamant it was the *only* way to feed 5.1 speakers etc that have
internal
amps, as unbalanced would cause hum etc. This was from the US, though.



RCA jacks are unfortunately still alive and well in the USA.


That seems to be the situation everywhere, Arny.
Is it normal in the US to refer to RCA connectors as jacks?
That seems open to confusíon. What do you call the
TRS plug which we refer to as a jack?



Dread to think - Yanks also call RCA connectors 'cinch plugs', I believe...


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Old June 12th 09, 12:09 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Eeyore[_3_]
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Default Balanced connections on domestic equipment.



Keith G wrote:

"Iain Churches" wrote in message
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message

RCA jacks are unfortunately still alive and well in the USA.


That seems to be the situation everywhere, Arny.
Is it normal in the US to refer to RCA connectors as jacks?
That seems open to confusíon. What do you call the
TRS plug which we refer to as a jack?


Dread to think - Yanks also call RCA connectors 'cinch plugs', I believe...


That's the Germans primarily and other Europeans who do that, named after the
company of that name.

Graham


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Old June 11th 09, 07:23 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Don Pearce[_3_]
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Default Balanced connections on domestic equipment.

On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:06:49 +0300, "Iain Churches"
wrote:


"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
m...

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...


A thread on another group suggested that these are the norm today.


no way!

Not
being one who avidly reads the Hi-Fi press, is this so? The poster was
adamant it was the *only* way to feed 5.1 speakers etc that have internal
amps, as unbalanced would cause hum etc. This was from the US, though.



RCA jacks are unfortunately still alive and well in the USA.


That seems to be the situation everywhere, Arny.
Is it normal in the US to refer to RCA connectors as jacks?
That seems open to confusíon. What do you call the
TRS plug which we refer to as a jack?

For me a jack is always a socket. It gets a little confusing for
guitarists with the jack plug, but if you think of that as adjective
plus noun it all comes out right (a plug for a socket). So an RCA jack
is the bit you find on the back panel, and an RCA plug is what goes
into it.

d
 




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