There's a 10 Downing St petition to stop FM/AM being switched off:

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/AM-FM-Radio/

Please sign. Thanks.


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internet-connected devices which terrifies the UK radio industry. I
believe that broadband-delivered radio will explode in the years to
come, offering very local, unregulated content, as well as opening a
window to the radio stations of the world." - from the Myers Report

"DAB sounds worse than FM" wrote in message
...
There's a 10 Downing St petition to stop FM/AM being switched off:

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/AM-FM-Radio/

Please sign. Thanks.


Done!

(And I see someone else 'from here' has also! ;-)

Although I feel most of the report including this proposal comes from cloud
cuckoo land, I've signed anyway as there are a lot of stupid people about
and the colour of the Government is almost certain to alter next year.

I simply cannot imagine the commercial interests wanting to lose the fm
outlets at the moment with such a muddled and maybe if idea of what is to
be in its place. I know a lot of people still listen to AM due to poor
reception of both dab and fm in cars and for news and sport who needs
either?

Horses for courses. I mean who will the government sell such relatively
small frequency ranges to for goodness sake?

Brian

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"DAB sounds worse than FM" wrote in message
...
There's a 10 Downing St petition to stop FM/AM being switched off:

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/AM-FM-Radio/

Please sign. Thanks.


--
Steve - www.savefm.org - stop the BBC bullies switching off FM

www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - digital radio news & info

"It is the sheer volume of online audio content available via
internet-connected devices which terrifies the UK radio industry. I
believe that broadband-delivered radio will explode in the years to
come, offering very local, unregulated content, as well as opening a
window to the radio stations of the world." - from the Myers Report

In article , Brian Gaff
scribeth thus
Although I feel most of the report including this proposal comes from cloud
cuckoo land, I've signed anyway as there are a lot of stupid people about
and the colour of the Government is almost certain to alter next year.

I simply cannot imagine the commercial interests wanting to lose the fm
outlets at the moment with such a muddled and maybe if idea of what is to
be in its place. I know a lot of people still listen to AM due to poor
reception of both dab and fm in cars and for news and sport who needs
either?

What they do not want, despite some industry spokesman who like most
government advisers know sod all about the subject, is that they don't
want to have to carry on transmitting on FM and DAB as its bloody
expensive especially with a monopoly transmission provider (Arqiva) who
have them by the short and curlies, let alone any other issues...

Horses for courses. I mean who will the government sell such relatively
small frequency ranges to for goodness sake?


God alone knows ....

Brian


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Tony Sayer

"tony sayer" wrote in message
...
In article , Brian Gaff
scribeth thus
Although I feel most of the report including this proposal comes from
cloud
cuckoo land, I've signed anyway as there are a lot of stupid people about
and the colour of the Government is almost certain to alter next year.

I simply cannot imagine the commercial interests wanting to lose the fm
outlets at the moment with such a muddled and maybe if idea of what is to
be in its place. I know a lot of people still listen to AM due to poor
reception of both dab and fm in cars and for news and sport who needs
either?

What they do not want, despite some industry spokesman who like most
government advisers know sod all about the subject, is that they don't
want to have to carry on transmitting on FM and DAB as its bloody
expensive especially with a monopoly transmission provider (Arqiva) who
have them by the short and curlies, let alone any other issues...

Horses for courses. I mean who will the government sell such relatively
small frequency ranges to for goodness sake?


God alone knows ....


What stops them farming it out entirely to the private sector (like
everything else) - would that be doable? Would there be any takers?

On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:07:16 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"tony sayer" wrote in message
...
In article , Brian Gaff
scribeth thus
Although I feel most of the report including this proposal comes from
cloud
cuckoo land, I've signed anyway as there are a lot of stupid people about
and the colour of the Government is almost certain to alter next year.

I simply cannot imagine the commercial interests wanting to lose the fm
outlets at the moment with such a muddled and maybe if idea of what is to
be in its place. I know a lot of people still listen to AM due to poor
reception of both dab and fm in cars and for news and sport who needs
either?

What they do not want, despite some industry spokesman who like most
government advisers know sod all about the subject, is that they don't
want to have to carry on transmitting on FM and DAB as its bloody
expensive especially with a monopoly transmission provider (Arqiva) who
have them by the short and curlies, let alone any other issues...

Horses for courses. I mean who will the government sell such relatively
small frequency ranges to for goodness sake?


God alone knows ....


What stops them farming it out entirely to the private sector (like
everything else) - would that be doable? Would there be any takers?


The problem is finding the right application for it. Stuff around
100MHz is absolutely ideal for broadcasting. It gets in and out of
nooks and crannies nicely, it is dead easy to produce huge amounts of
power, and the horizon shuts it off very cleanly, allowing regional
broadcasting.

Anything less than that would really be to waste a huge asset.

In fact an ideal use would be a National FM service. I wonder if they
have thought of that?

d

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
news:4a4394d0.1075833718@localhost...
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:07:16 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"tony sayer" wrote in message
...
In article , Brian Gaff
scribeth thus
Although I feel most of the report including this proposal comes from
cloud
cuckoo land, I've signed anyway as there are a lot of stupid people
about
and the colour of the Government is almost certain to alter next year.

I simply cannot imagine the commercial interests wanting to lose the fm
outlets at the moment with such a muddled and maybe if idea of what is
to
be in its place. I know a lot of people still listen to AM due to poor
reception of both dab and fm in cars and for news and sport who needs
either?

What they do not want, despite some industry spokesman who like most
government advisers know sod all about the subject, is that they don't
want to have to carry on transmitting on FM and DAB as its bloody
expensive especially with a monopoly transmission provider (Arqiva) who
have them by the short and curlies, let alone any other issues...

Horses for courses. I mean who will the government sell such relatively
small frequency ranges to for goodness sake?


God alone knows ....


What stops them farming it out entirely to the private sector (like
everything else) - would that be doable? Would there be any takers?


The problem is finding the right application for it. Stuff around
100MHz is absolutely ideal for broadcasting. It gets in and out of
nooks and crannies nicely, it is dead easy to produce huge amounts of
power, and the horizon shuts it off very cleanly, allowing regional
broadcasting.

Anything less than that would really be to waste a huge asset.

In fact an ideal use would be a National FM service. I wonder if they
have thought of that?


I was thinking more of privatised and licenced regional services along the
lines of the early American broadcasting stations - run by 'locals' with
more 'local flavour' and relevancy for the inevitable advertising.

There's some interesting observations here, if nothing really new:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...d.php?t=994279

Interesting to see the early mention of pirate stations; it's been in my
mind for a while that they would be in clover if/when the 'switch off'
happened - to mop up some of the 'newly-redundant FM hardware', if nothing
else!

In article , Keith G
scribeth thus

"tony sayer" wrote in message
...
In article , Brian Gaff
scribeth thus
Although I feel most of the report including this proposal comes from
cloud
cuckoo land, I've signed anyway as there are a lot of stupid people about
and the colour of the Government is almost certain to alter next year.

I simply cannot imagine the commercial interests wanting to lose the fm
outlets at the moment with such a muddled and maybe if idea of what is to
be in its place. I know a lot of people still listen to AM due to poor
reception of both dab and fm in cars and for news and sport who needs
either?

What they do not want, despite some industry spokesman who like most
government advisers know sod all about the subject, is that they don't
want to have to carry on transmitting on FM and DAB as its bloody
expensive especially with a monopoly transmission provider (Arqiva) who
have them by the short and curlies, let alone any other issues...

Horses for courses. I mean who will the government sell such relatively
small frequency ranges to for goodness sake?


God alone knows ....


What stops them farming it out entirely to the private sector (like
everything else) - would that be doable? Would there be any takers?





Doubt it somehow. DAB is a white elephant that they really don't know
what to do with so this is the best they can do which isn't a lot at
all;(..
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Tony Sayer

"tony sayer" wrote in message
...
In article , Keith G
scribeth thus


What stops them farming it out entirely to the private sector (like
everything else) - would that be doable? Would there be any takers?





Doubt it somehow. DAB is a white elephant that they really don't know
what to do with so this is the best they can do which isn't a lot at
all;(..



Well, I think there is still a tremendous demand for radio, especially
during the day - it shouldn't be beyond the wit of a few suitable
individuals to get local radio stations up, running and paying their way
these days, surely?

In article ,
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
There's a 10 Downing St petition to stop FM/AM being switched off:

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/AM-FM-Radio/

Please sign. Thanks.

The only good thing about FM being switched off is you might finally get a
life and find something worthwhile to do.

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