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TonyL July 16th 09 06:00 PM

Dynamic mic questions
 
I have a Yoga DM-330B dynamic mic

Questions:
I can't find any info on it....is it any good ? I know it is horses for
courses with mics. What might this one be useful for ?

Can anyone point me to a spec ?

For some reason, XLR shield (pin1) is internally connected to one of the
outputs. The only way I can get reasonable noise/hum levels is to disconnect
the shield connection in the mic.cable XLR connector at the mic. end. Why
have they done this to what I thought should be a balanced output ?

To avoid having to use a modified mic. cable would it be a good idea to open
it up and remove this internal connection ?









Dave Plowman (News) July 16th 09 06:18 PM

Dynamic mic questions
 
In article ,
TonyL wrote:
For some reason, XLR shield (pin1) is internally connected to one of the
outputs. The only way I can get reasonable noise/hum levels is to
disconnect the shield connection in the mic.cable XLR connector at the
mic. end. Why have they done this to what I thought should be a
balanced output ?


Probably been used with an unbalanced input - this might improve handling
noise.

To avoid having to use a modified mic. cable would it be a good idea to
open it up and remove this internal connection ?


Yes.

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TonyL July 16th 09 08:31 PM

Dynamic mic questions
 
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

To avoid having to use a modified mic. cable would it be a good idea
to open it up and remove this internal connection ?


Yes.


That worked, thanks.



Phil Allison[_2_] July 17th 09 02:44 AM

Dynamic mic questions
 

"TonyL"

I have a Yoga DM-330B dynamic mic


** Chinese junk.

Suit a jerk off like you just fine.


Questions:
I can't find any info on it....is it any good ? I know it is horses for
courses with mics. What might this one be useful for ?


** Karaoke is the main app.


Can anyone point me to a spec ?


** ROTFL !!

For some reason, XLR shield (pin1) is internally connected to one of the
outputs.



** The Chinese like to do that - seen it done with fake Shure Beta 58As.


The only way I can get reasonable noise/hum levels is to disconnect the
shield connection in the mic.cable XLR connector at the mic. end.


** Shows you must be using a pile of **** for a pre-amp.


Why have they done this..


** Ahhhh - is ancient Chinese recipe .....

ROTFL !!


...... Phil





Brian Gaff July 17th 09 09:04 AM

Dynamic mic questions
 
Actually a lot of these sort of mics are actually quite good and definitely
robust, they need to be after all that spit and bear breath gets into them.

Brian

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"Phil Allison" wrote in message
...

"TonyL"

I have a Yoga DM-330B dynamic mic


** Chinese junk.

Suit a jerk off like you just fine.


Questions:
I can't find any info on it....is it any good ? I know it is horses for
courses with mics. What might this one be useful for ?


** Karaoke is the main app.


Can anyone point me to a spec ?


** ROTFL !!

For some reason, XLR shield (pin1) is internally connected to one of the
outputs.



** The Chinese like to do that - seen it done with fake Shure Beta 58As.


The only way I can get reasonable noise/hum levels is to disconnect the
shield connection in the mic.cable XLR connector at the mic. end.


** Shows you must be using a pile of **** for a pre-amp.


Why have they done this..


** Ahhhh - is ancient Chinese recipe .....

ROTFL !!


..... Phil







TonyL July 17th 09 03:44 PM

Dynamic mic questions
 
Spit and bear breath....right, he he.

I'm not particularly impressed with vocal performance with this mic. For
tests I'm listening via a Roland UA-25 USB Audio capture unit switched to
Direct Monitor mode and driving a pair of Sennheiser HD 280 cans. I know
that dynamic mics aren't known for their HF response but I was expecting
more crispness. At this time I don't have any gear to do proper measurements
so I'm reliant on my own ears...

I've ordered a SM 58, will be interesting to compare.

Brian Gaff wrote:
Actually a lot of these sort of mics are actually quite good and
definitely robust, they need to be after all that spit and bear
breath gets into them.
Brian




Dave Plowman (News) July 17th 09 04:23 PM

Dynamic mic questions
 
In article ,
TonyL wrote:
I'm not particularly impressed with vocal performance with this mic. For
tests I'm listening via a Roland UA-25 USB Audio capture unit switched
to Direct Monitor mode and driving a pair of Sennheiser HD 280 cans. I
know that dynamic mics aren't known for their HF response but I was
expecting more crispness. At this time I don't have any gear to do
proper measurements so I'm reliant on my own ears...


I've ordered a SM 58, will be interesting to compare.


The SM 58 is one of the most over-rated mics ever. Its only virtues are
robustness and reasonable noise cancellation. Certainly not sound quality.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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TonyL July 17th 09 06:31 PM

Dynamic mic questions
 
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

I've ordered a SM 58, will be interesting to compare.


The SM 58 is one of the most over-rated mics ever. Its only virtues
are robustness and reasonable noise cancellation. Certainly not sound
quality.


I know it is not the most sensitive mic and doesn't do much above 13 kHz or
so. Could you clarify what else it is about the SM 58 that you dislike ? I'm
hoping to use it for vocals and maybe acoustic guitar.



Dave Plowman (News) July 17th 09 10:28 PM

Dynamic mic questions
 
In article ,
TonyL wrote:
The SM 58 is one of the most over-rated mics ever. Its only virtues
are robustness and reasonable noise cancellation. Certainly not sound
quality.


I know it is not the most sensitive mic and doesn't do much above 13 kHz
or so. Could you clarify what else it is about the SM 58 that you
dislike ?


They never sound 'clean' and pop badly when used close on the voice. The
very thing they're designed for.

I'm hoping to use it for vocals and maybe acoustic guitar.


Is this for recording purposes or for live gigs? Those requirements are
very different.

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

TonyL July 17th 09 10:42 PM

Dynamic mic questions
 
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

They never sound 'clean' and pop badly when used close on the voice.
The very thing they're designed for.


OK, noted.

I'm hoping to use it for vocals and maybe acoustic guitar.


Is this for recording purposes or for live gigs? Those requirements
are very different.


For recording, strictly for fun with a few friends ATM. We are not intending
any public performances. Recommendations ?




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