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Decent cheap mic for vocal studio use



 
 
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Old July 26th 09, 09:21 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Glenn Richards
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Right... I have some backing tracks that I need to record vocals on
using Audition. At the moment I have an el-cheapo cardioid mic from
Maplin (kind of like a poor man's SM58) that I've had since I was about
15. It works to a point but I need something a bit better.

So without breaking the bank, any recommendations? (Yes, I have an
offboard mic pre-amp, I'm not using the noise-ridden AC97 input!)

If it's affordable I'd like to get a pair of them, not for stereo use,
I've got a singing partner and would rather like to be able to record
both parts at once rather than using an overdub. You get a better
interaction if you're both at the mic at the same time.

Yes, I know you can just both sing into the same mic... but the other
vocal part is a female voice so will probably need different EQ. She's
also not as loud as me so... two tracks would be better!

Was considering a pair of SM58s but I believe these are designed with
ruggedness first and sound quality second with live stage use in mind.
So any suggestions?

It's for recording a demo, not a full blown studio, so don't want to
spend loads on it!

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Old July 26th 09, 10:11 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Laurence Payne[_2_]
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On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:21:30 +0100, Glenn Richards
wrote:

ion. At the moment I have an el-cheapo cardioid mic from
Maplin (kind of like a poor man's SM58) that I've had since I was about
15. It works to a point but I need something a bit better.


I find the Rode NT-1 a useful workhorse.
http://www.dv247.com/invt/10229/


If this is more than you want to spend, the Samson CO1 may be a nice
surprise.
http://www.dv247.com/invt/3267/

For both of these you'll need a preamp, soundcard or mixer that
provides phantom power.
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Old July 26th 09, 10:25 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Don Pearce[_3_]
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On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:11:55 +0100, Laurence Payne
wrote:

On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:21:30 +0100, Glenn Richards
wrote:

ion. At the moment I have an el-cheapo cardioid mic from
Maplin (kind of like a poor man's SM58) that I've had since I was about
15. It works to a point but I need something a bit better.


I find the Rode NT-1 a useful workhorse.
http://www.dv247.com/invt/10229/


Dunno about workhorse, but this is definitely the go-to mic of first
choice. It is really only if you want a mic that "does things" to the
sound that you need to look elsewhere. If the sound is already what
you want, and you just want to capture it, go for the NT1-A.

d
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Old July 26th 09, 01:02 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
TonyL
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Default Decent cheap mic for vocal studio use

Glenn Richards wrote:

Yes, I know you can just both sing into the same mic... but the other
vocal part is a female voice so will probably need different EQ. She's
also not as loud as me so... two tracks would be better!

Was considering a pair of SM58s but I believe these are designed with
ruggedness first and sound quality second with live stage use in mind.
So any suggestions?

It's for recording a demo, not a full blown studio, so don't want to
spend loads on it!


As recommended by someone in here, I've just bought a pair of these:
http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/produc...ched-pair.html
Haven't used them in anger yet, but they sound great in tests. Your pre-amp
does have 48V phantom ?





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Old July 26th 09, 02:27 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Phil Allison[_2_]
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"Laurence Payne in the Arse "


I find the Rode NT-1 a useful workhorse.
http://www.dv247.com/invt/10229/



** I am particularly familiar with that mic and know
personally the folk who make it - ie the Freedmans
of Sydney, Australia.

The Freedmans made their name as the importers of
"Dynacord" valve PA gear into this country in the 1960s.

A name that will live on in infamy ...

Peter Freedman (son of Henry) is the proprietor of " Rode " mics
- a silly German sounding name he made up to HIDE the
Chinese origin of the mic capsules and other parts that
are used to make the thing.

In NO WAY SHAPE or FORM is the NT-1 a vocal mic !!!!

Using it for that purpose will very soon RUIN it !!

BTW:

The Rode NT-1 has a nick - which is suggestive of a rat.




...... Phil




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Old July 26th 09, 04:23 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Laurence Payne[_2_]
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On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:02:13 +0100, "TonyL"
wrote:

As recommended by someone in here, I've just bought a pair of these:
http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/produc...ched-pair.html
Haven't used them in anger yet, but they sound great in tests. Your pre-amp
does have 48V phantom ?


Have you tried them on vocals? This isn't one of Behringer's
recommended applications for this model. Which doesn't mean they
WON'T sound good close up to a voice, but I'd check first with someone
who's tried.
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Old July 26th 09, 04:23 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman (News)
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In article ,
Phil Allison wrote:
In NO WAY SHAPE or FORM is the NT-1 a vocal mic !!!!


Pray tell what determines a vocal mic, oh potty mouthed one?

Despite many many years in the industry I've yet to come across *any* mic
that can't be used for vocals - suitably protected from popping if close
miked. That's not to say some aren't better than others. And any is better
than an SM58...

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Old July 26th 09, 04:31 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Laurence Payne[_2_]
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Glenn - maybe you haven't been around here long enough to have met
Phil. He delights in disagreeing with almost everything and becomes
abusive when challenged.

You'll see from his response to this which one of us has credibility.

A little Googling (eg. the manufacturer's web site) will show how
often the NT-1 is recommended for recording vocals.

It isn't a hand-held mic for live work. But that isn't what you were
asking for. See the thread title :-)



** I am particularly familiar with that mic and know
personally the folk who make it - ie the Freedmans
of Sydney, Australia.

The Freedmans made their name as the importers of
"Dynacord" valve PA gear into this country in the 1960s.

A name that will live on in infamy ...

Peter Freedman (son of Henry) is the proprietor of " Rode " mics
- a silly German sounding name he made up to HIDE the
Chinese origin of the mic capsules and other parts that
are used to make the thing.

In NO WAY SHAPE or FORM is the NT-1 a vocal mic !!!!

Using it for that purpose will very soon RUIN it !!

BTW:

The Rode NT-1 has a nick - which is suggestive of a rat.




..... Phil



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Old July 26th 09, 07:03 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
TonyL
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Default Decent cheap mic for vocal studio use

Laurence Payne wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:02:13 +0100, "TonyL"
wrote:

As recommended by someone in here, I've just bought a pair of these:
http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/produc...ched-pair.html
Haven't used them in anger yet, but they sound great in tests. Your
pre-amp does have 48V phantom ?


Have you tried them on vocals? This isn't one of Behringer's
recommended applications for this model. Which doesn't mean they
WON'T sound good close up to a voice, but I'd check first with someone
who's tried.


Only with my own crappy vocals. I'll try them out for real next week
with/without the built-in filter.



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Old July 26th 09, 10:33 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Phil Allison[_2_]
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"Dave Plowman (Nutcase)"

Phil Allison wrote:

In NO WAY SHAPE or FORM is the NT-1 a vocal mic !!!!


Pray tell what determines a vocal mic,



** Try reading the stuff you sniped - ****HEAD.


Despite many many years in the industry ...



** What industry is that ?

Is being a know nothing bull**** artist now a recognised form of employment
in the UK ?

You posted this recently:

" Don't work in the 'recording industry', pet."


..... Phil





 




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