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EEI Austrailai - Elite EEI 500 moviong magnet pickup



 
 
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Old September 25th 09, 12:14 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Michael Chare
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Default EEI Austrailai - Elite EEI 500 moviong magnet pickup

There was a company called EEI Australia that made the Elite EEI 500 moving
magnetic pickup cartridge (and a moving-coil model)

Does any one know what happened to them?

It has been suggested to me that umless I am willing to spend £500+ on a
pickup cartridge, I would do better to stick to the moving magnet ones
rather than a moving coil one. Would anyone dispute this?


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Old September 25th 09, 07:36 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Jim Lesurf[_2_]
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Default EEI Austrailai - Elite EEI 500 moviong magnet pickup

In article , Michael Chare
wrote:
There was a company called EEI Australia that made the Elite EEI 500
moving magnetic pickup cartridge (and a moving-coil model)


Does any one know what happened to them?


Afraid not.

It has been suggested to me that umless I am willing to spend £500+ on a
pickup cartridge, I would do better to stick to the moving magnet ones
rather than a moving coil one. Would anyone dispute this?


You would perhaps need to define "do better" first. :-)

However, speaking personally, I would rather choose a decent MM design than
spend fortunes of an expensive MC that may not track better, etc. I
recently tried the Orthofon M2 Black

results on http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/HFN/LP4/NewLampsForOld.html

Personally, if I had to buy a new cartridge right now I'd be likely to
choose one of those - although I would experiment with loading.

Some of the Goldring and Audio Technica designs may also be worth
considering. But I have not tried them myself, so can't comment.

Slainte,

Jim

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Old September 25th 09, 11:45 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Phil Allison[_2_]
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Default EEI Austrailai - Elite EEI 500 moviong magnet pickup


"Michael Chare"

There was a company called EEI Australia that made the Elite EEI 500
moving magnetic pickup cartridge (and a moving-coil model)

Does any one know what happened to them?


** Think you are mistaken.

Elite Electronics ( ie Max Townshend ) of the UK made the EEI cartridges.

http://www.vinylengine.com/library/townshend.shtml



...... Phil


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Old September 25th 09, 06:49 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Michael Chare
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Default EEI Australia - Elite EEI 500 moviong magnet pickup

"Phil Allison" wrote in message
...

"Michael Chare"

There was a company called EEI Australia that made the Elite EEI 500
moving magnetic pickup cartridge (and a moving-coil model)

Does any one know what happened to them?


** Think you are mistaken.

Elite Electronics ( ie Max Townshend ) of the UK made the EEI cartridges.

http://www.vinylengine.com/library/townshend.shtml



..... Phil


Thanks for the replies. I based my origninal post on this article:

http://www.gramophone.net/Issue/Page...+500+cartridge

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Old September 25th 09, 10:41 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Trevor Wilson
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Default EEI Austrailai - Elite EEI 500 moviong magnet pickup


"Michael Chare" wrote in message
...
There was a company called EEI Australia that made the Elite EEI 500
moving magnetic pickup cartridge (and a moving-coil model)

Does any one know what happened to them?

It has been suggested to me that umless I am willing to spend £500+ on a
pickup cartridge, I would do better to stick to the moving magnet ones
rather than a moving coil one. Would anyone dispute this?


**It TOTALLY depends on your tone arm. As a general rule, MM carts are far
more 'forgiving' of tone arm bearings and resonance issues than MCs. It is
also a general rule that, Dollar for Dollar, an MM cart can provide a higher
level of performance in the budget end of the market.


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Old September 25th 09, 10:49 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Phil Allison[_2_]
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Default EEI Australia - Elite EEI 500 moviong magnet pickup


"Michael Chare"
"Phil Allison"
"Michael Chare"

There was a company called EEI Australia that made the Elite EEI 500
moving magnetic pickup cartridge (and a moving-coil model)

Does any one know what happened to them?


** Think you are mistaken.

Elite Electronics ( ie Max Townshend ) of the UK made the EEI cartridges.

http://www.vinylengine.com/library/townshend.shtml



Thanks for the replies. I based my origninal post on this article:

http://www.gramophone.net/Issue/Page...+500+cartridge



** The article say the EEI cartridge was made in Japan.

There is no mention of an " EEI Australia".



...... Phil


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Old September 26th 09, 05:21 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Geoff Mackenzie
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Default EEI Austrailai - Elite EEI 500 moviong magnet pickup


"Michael Chare" wrote in message
...
There was a company called EEI Australia that made the Elite EEI 500
moving magnetic pickup cartridge (and a moving-coil model)

Does any one know what happened to them?

It has been suggested to me that umless I am willing to spend £500+ on a
pickup cartridge, I would do better to stick to the moving magnet ones
rather than a moving coil one. Would anyone dispute this?


--
Michael Chare


Depends rather a lot on what arm you are using. For example, the SME 3009
and its variants worked well with MM, but were less successful with MC which
is why they fell from grace (sorry!) in the seventies/eighties. Whereas the
SME 4 and 5 were particularly suited to MC. Mass compliance, and all that.
Also depends on the quality of your pre-amp, of course, and what it was
designed for.

GeoffMacK

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Old September 26th 09, 07:28 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Don Pearce
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Default EEI Austrailai - Elite EEI 500 moviong magnet pickup

On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 18:21:09 +0100, "Geoff Mackenzie"
wrote:


"Michael Chare" wrote in message
.. .
There was a company called EEI Australia that made the Elite EEI 500
moving magnetic pickup cartridge (and a moving-coil model)

Does any one know what happened to them?

It has been suggested to me that umless I am willing to spend £500+ on a
pickup cartridge, I would do better to stick to the moving magnet ones
rather than a moving coil one. Would anyone dispute this?


--
Michael Chare


Depends rather a lot on what arm you are using. For example, the SME 3009
and its variants worked well with MM, but were less successful with MC which
is why they fell from grace (sorry!) in the seventies/eighties. Whereas the
SME 4 and 5 were particularly suited to MC. Mass compliance, and all that.
Also depends on the quality of your pre-amp, of course, and what it was
designed for.

GeoffMacK


Mmmm? I have a MC cart (Audio Technica OC9) on a 3009ii and it all
works perfectly, both listening and in measurement.

d
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Old September 27th 09, 08:25 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Jim Lesurf[_2_]
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Default EEI Austrailai - Elite EEI 500 moviong magnet pickup

In article , Don Pearce
wrote:
On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 18:21:09 +0100, "Geoff Mackenzie"
wrote:



Depends rather a lot on what arm you are using. For example, the SME
3009 and its variants worked well with MM, but were less successful
with MC which is why they fell from grace (sorry!) in the
seventies/eighties. Whereas the SME 4 and 5 were particularly suited
to MC. Mass compliance, and all that. Also depends on the quality of
your pre-amp, of course, and what it was designed for.


Mmmm? I have a MC cart (Audio Technica OC9) on a 3009ii and it all works
perfectly, both listening and in measurement.


Does the OC9 have a rather higher compliance (and perhaps more sensible
damping) than many MC designs? The root of the problem was that many MC
designs had/have booger-all compliance and no damping. So can be
problematic in an arm like the 3009 which has low mass.

Slainte,

Jim

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Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm
Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html
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Old September 27th 09, 04:42 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman (News)
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Default EEI Austrailai - Elite EEI 500 moviong magnet pickup

In article ,
Jim Lesurf wrote:
Mmmm? I have a MC cart (Audio Technica OC9) on a 3009ii and it all
works perfectly, both listening and in measurement.


Does the OC9 have a rather higher compliance (and perhaps more sensible
damping) than many MC designs? The root of the problem was that many MC
designs had/have booger-all compliance and no damping. So can be
problematic in an arm like the 3009 which has low mass.


The lateral bearing on the 3009 could be damped which helped matters with
a low compliance cart. Think it was originally intended for the Decca FFSS
head shell mounting versions.

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