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Andy Evans October 4th 09 03:48 PM

Advice on a power supply umbilical needed.
 
True, but if the connector is *within* an enclosure that needs a tool to
open it then the 50V limit does not apply, even in domestic use.

David.


thanks David - that's worth knowing!

andy

Dave Plowman (News) October 4th 09 04:44 PM

Advice on a power supply umbilical needed.
 
In article ,
Phil Allison wrote:
** ABSOLUTE ****ing ******** !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Anyone can poke a bare wire into a mains outlet and get fried.


You're posting to a civilised country where mains outlets have shutters to
prevent this.

--
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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Don Pearce October 4th 09 04:52 PM

Advice on a power supply umbilical needed.
 
On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 08:43:46 -0700 (PDT), Andy Evans
wrote:

For least noise you need to be carrying your grounds to a single star point,
which then connects to the chassis at a single point. That makes sure
that ground currents can't generate any voltages in the signal path.
Careful ground design allows you to use a single chassis quite
happily.


Exactly as you describe!


Brilliant, then just bolt them together and hard wire the connection.

d
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Andy Evans October 4th 09 06:37 PM

Advice on a power supply umbilical needed.
 
On Oct 4, 5:52 pm, (Don Pearce) wrote:
On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 08:43:46 -0700 (PDT), Andy Evans

wrote:
For least noise you need to be carrying your grounds to a single star point,
which then connects to the chassis at a single point. That makes sure
that ground currents can't generate any voltages in the signal path.
Careful ground design allows you to use a single chassis quite
happily.


Exactly as you describe!


Brilliant, then just bolt them together and hard wire the connection.


I'll employ you to lift it!

andy


Don Pearce[_3_] October 4th 09 06:43 PM

Advice on a power supply umbilical needed.
 
On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 11:37:46 -0700 (PDT), Andy Evans
wrote:

On Oct 4, 5:52 pm, (Don Pearce) wrote:
On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 08:43:46 -0700 (PDT), Andy Evans

wrote:
For least noise you need to be carrying your grounds to a single star point,
which then connects to the chassis at a single point. That makes sure
that ground currents can't generate any voltages in the signal path.
Careful ground design allows you to use a single chassis quite
happily.


Exactly as you describe!


Brilliant, then just bolt them together and hard wire the connection.


I'll employ you to lift it!


Casters, man, casters!

d

Andy Evans October 4th 09 07:00 PM

Advice on a power supply umbilical needed.
 
On Oct 4, 7:43 pm, (Don Pearce) wrote:
On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 11:37:46 -0700 (PDT), Andy Evans



wrote:
On Oct 4, 5:52 pm, (Don Pearce) wrote:
On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 08:43:46 -0700 (PDT), Andy Evans


wrote:
For least noise you need to be carrying your grounds to a single star point,
which then connects to the chassis at a single point. That makes sure
that ground currents can't generate any voltages in the signal path.
Careful ground design allows you to use a single chassis quite
happily.


Exactly as you describe!


Brilliant, then just bolt them together and hard wire the connection.


I'll employ you to lift it!


Casters, man, casters!

d


Yaks more like.....

Keith G[_2_] October 5th 09 02:44 PM

Advice on a power supply umbilical needed.
 

"Andy Evans" wrote in message
...
True, but if the connector is *within* an enclosure that needs a tool to
open it then the 50V limit does not apply, even in domestic use.

David.


thanks David - that's worth knowing!

andy



Never mind all the useless technowanking, Andy - I gave you a couple of real
world, useful suggestions. Have you spoken to Phil at Bluebell yet? If
anyone knows how to daisy-chain 500VDC boat-anchors in the UK, he will.

While Cliff UK will almost certainly know who's got 500VDC 'touchproof'
connectors available - if, indeed, anyone has at less than *industrial*
prices....

So, jump about a bit Andy and let us (me) know how you get on - in all the
crap that's flying about in the group atm, this is something real that might
just be handy for someone else in the future!

:-)



Phil Allison[_2_] October 5th 09 03:12 PM

Advice on a power supply umbilical needed.
 

"Keith G"


Never mind all the useless technowanking, Andy - I gave you a couple of
real world, useful suggestions. Have you spoken to Phil at Bluebell yet?
If anyone knows how to daisy-chain 500VDC boat-anchors in the UK, he will.

While Cliff UK will almost certainly know who's got 500VDC 'touchproof'
connectors available - if, indeed, anyone has at less than *industrial*
prices....



** Fraid you have got the whole DAMN ISSUE WRONG !!!

It is **NOT** a simple connector choice issue.

The clueless ****ing OP is asking the wrong question.

Try reading my post on the matter.





....... Phil




Keith G[_2_] October 5th 09 03:59 PM

Advice on a power supply umbilical needed.
 

"Phil Allison" wrote in message
...

"Keith G"


Never mind all the useless technowanking, Andy - I gave you a couple of
real world, useful suggestions. Have you spoken to Phil at Bluebell yet?
If anyone knows how to daisy-chain 500VDC boat-anchors in the UK, he
will.

While Cliff UK will almost certainly know who's got 500VDC 'touchproof'
connectors available - if, indeed, anyone has at less than *industrial*
prices....



** Fraid you have got the whole DAMN ISSUE WRONG !!!

It is **NOT** a simple connector choice issue.

The clueless ****ing OP is asking the wrong question.

Try reading my post on the matter.




OK Phil, I just did and I think I see where you're coming from - the 'live
chassis' possibility is where it hangs, ain't it? And the difference is my
250VDC* 'umbilicals' are going to *PCBs* as per:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/PhonoKit.jpg

(I really have gotta start reading posts if I'm going to respond to
them....)

Andy, still speak to Phil at Bluebell - he's still the guy who'll know if
what you want to do can be done at all safely!


*still not an inconsiderable tug on yer bell end if you let it touch! :-)






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