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On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 13:13:19 +0200, Iain Churches wrote:

Only an old valve Neumann looks cooler!

Did they have 'cool' in Glen Miller's day? ;-)

Glenn Miller wasn't cool,

Says who?

To answer a question with a question:
Do you think he was "cool" David?


OK, two can play at that game, how do you define "cool"?

David.

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OK, two can play at that game, how do you define "cool"?

Not knowing or caring if you are may be a part of it. :-)

Slainte,

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Iain Churches wrote:
I would recommend the AKG C214, a large diaphram cardioid
pattern condenser mic

Head firmly in the clouds again, Iain?

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On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 12:51:00 +0000, Don Pearce wrote:

Behringer is your friend here. Fine performance, and cost bugger all.

What about their mikes? The only thing significantly under fifty squid on
http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/produc...hure-sm58.html is their
offering, and you get 3 for £33!

I'm sure they wouldn't measure up to an SM58 head-to-head, but for the
sort of money the Shures go for one could have a mixer and enough mikes to
do a couple of vocals and an acoustic simultaneously rather than
multitracked, and if they bork a mic it isn't the end of the world.

And they can buy their own SM58s when they start getting paid for gigs ;-)


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John Stumbles wrote:
On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 12:51:00 +0000, Don Pearce wrote:

Behringer is your friend here. Fine performance, and cost bugger all.

What about their mikes? The only thing significantly under fifty squid on
http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/produc...hure-sm58.html is their
offering, and you get 3 for £33!

I'm sure they wouldn't measure up to an SM58 head-to-head, but for the
sort of money the Shures go for one could have a mixer and enough mikes
to do a couple of vocals and an acoustic simultaneously rather than
multitracked, and if they bork a mic it isn't the end of the world.

And they can buy their own SM58s when they start getting paid for gigs
;-)

There was a mic looking a bit like a '58 in the local pound shop. Quite
heavy, too. I should have bought it just for the hell of it.
The best sounding cheap types are electrets. Often not too good at
handling high SPL, but can sound quite nice at normal levels.


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The best sounding cheap types are electrets.

There are inexpensive mics that are externally biased and accepted in the
US as being "good sounding".

Several models from MXL come to mind.

By traditional standards, even mics from Rode are "inexpensive".

Often not
too good at handling high SPL, but can sound quite nice
at normal levels.

Isn't it pretty well known that the idea that electret mics can't handle
high levels is actually a myth?

One mic that violates that rule is the DPA 4007.

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Often not
too good at handling high SPL, but can sound quite nice
at normal levels.

Isn't it pretty well known that the idea that electret mics can't handle
high levels is actually a myth?

It's certainly not a myth with some of them. But I am talking cheap as
less than about $20.

One mic that violates that rule is the DPA 4007.

I'm sure it's possible to make one which can.

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Often not
too good at handling high SPL, but can sound quite nice
at normal levels.

Isn't it pretty well known that the idea that electret mics can't handle
high levels is actually a myth?

No, that's just a legend.
http://www.linkwitzlab.com/sys_test.htm#Mic

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Iain Churches wrote:
I would recommend the AKG C214, a large diaphram cardioid
pattern condenser mic

Head firmly in the clouds again, Iain?

It's a very popular and ubiquitous medium-budget mic
Very good quality for the money.
Robust and reliable.

It may, or may not meet Santa's budget criteria.
The OP did not specify a price range.


Iain

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On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 13:13:19 +0200, Iain Churches wrote:

Only an old valve Neumann looks cooler!

Did they have 'cool' in Glen Miller's day? ;-)

Glenn Miller wasn't cool,

Says who?

To answer a question with a question:
Do you think he was "cool" David?


OK, two can play at that game, how do you define "cool"?

Sorry. No spoon-feeding:-)

Miles Davis has the answer,
So has Bird, Thelonious Monk, Lester Young,
Michael Brecker, Billy Strayhorn, Bill May and the
rest of the names I mentioned which you so carefully
snipped, plus many many others.

Classical music can be cool too. Shostakovich String
Quartets are about as cool as they come. Likewise
RVW.

Discussions on music are frowned upon by our
groupmeister, Dave P. So let's talk about music:-)

It would be interesting to discuss Miller in depth,
if you are willing and able do so, David.

But I still don't know if yuou think he is/was "cool" :-)


Iain