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On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 13:13:19 +0200, Iain Churches wrote:

Only an old valve Neumann looks cooler!

Did they have 'cool' in Glen Miller's day? ;-)

Glenn Miller wasn't cool, but Duke Elington certainly was:-)

http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches...ingtonCool.mp3


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On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 13:13:19 +0200, Iain Churches wrote:

Only an old valve Neumann looks cooler!

Did they have 'cool' in Glen Miller's day? ;-)

Glenn Miller wasn't cool,

Says who?

David.

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On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 13:13:19 +0200, Iain Churches wrote:

Only an old valve Neumann looks cooler!

Did they have 'cool' in Glen Miller's day? ;-)

Glenn Miller wasn't cool,

Says who?

To answer a question with a question:
Do you think he was "cool" David?

It's all relative I suppose. Compared with Ellington,
Basie, Stan Kenton, Charlie Parker. Dizzie Gillespie,
Thelonious Monk, and a huge number of others,
Miller was definately not "cool".

Even in his day his music, was was regarded
as "predictably glitzy" ) But then again, nothing succeeds
like success, and the clinking of the cash register is
music to one and all:-)

When I worked for RCA there was an old
good-news/bad news joke which went:

The good news is that Elvis is dead. The record presses
are running 24/7 to keep up with the demand.

The bad news is that Glenn Miller's plane has just landed.
He wants his royalties.

Many who know about Miller both as a player and an
arranger think he was at his finest when playing with
Ray Noble.

But the film is fun, and James Stewart fills the role of
Glenn Miller well, even if they get the concept of the
"Miller Sound" totally wrong. It probably doesn't do
to try to keep to the facts when writing a good script:-)

If you listen to his arrangements for Ray Noble and the
Dorsey Brothers, you will hear how the Miller sound
really evolved.



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On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 13:13:19 +0200, Iain Churches wrote:

Only an old valve Neumann looks cooler!

Did they have 'cool' in Glen Miller's day? ;-)

Glenn Miller wasn't cool,

Says who?

To answer a question with a question:
Do you think he was "cool" David?


OK, two can play at that game, how do you define "cool"?

David.

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OK, two can play at that game, how do you define "cool"?

Not knowing or caring if you are may be a part of it. :-)

Slainte,

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On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 13:13:19 +0200, Iain Churches wrote:

Only an old valve Neumann looks cooler!

Did they have 'cool' in Glen Miller's day? ;-)

Glenn Miller wasn't cool,

Says who?

To answer a question with a question:
Do you think he was "cool" David?


OK, two can play at that game, how do you define "cool"?

Sorry. No spoon-feeding:-)

Miles Davis has the answer,
So has Bird, Thelonious Monk, Lester Young,
Michael Brecker, Billy Strayhorn, Bill May and the
rest of the names I mentioned which you so carefully
snipped, plus many many others.

Classical music can be cool too. Shostakovich String
Quartets are about as cool as they come. Likewise
RVW.

Discussions on music are frowned upon by our
groupmeister, Dave P. So let's talk about music:-)

It would be interesting to discuss Miller in depth,
if you are willing and able do so, David.

But I still don't know if yuou think he is/was "cool" :-)


Iain

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On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 13:13:19 +0200, Iain Churches wrote:

Only an old valve Neumann looks cooler!

Did they have 'cool' in Glen Miller's day? ;-)

Glenn Miller wasn't cool,


Correct.


but Duke Elington certainly was:-)


Also correct.

So was Lionel Hampton and about a thousand others....

@:-)

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On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 13:13:19 +0200, Iain Churches wrote:

Only an old valve Neumann looks cooler!

Did they have 'cool' in Glen Miller's day? ;-)

Glenn Miller wasn't cool,


Correct.


but Duke Elington certainly was:-)


Also correct.

So was Lionel Hampton and about a thousand others....

Hampton is a very good example, in same way that
Milt Jackson and John Lewis are "cool"

In fact, in 30s/40s and 50s music, it is hard to
think of anyone less cool than Miller. But then again,
he certainly wasn't hot like Harry James, Chick Webb
or Louis Armstrong either:-)


Iain