"Michael Chare" wrote


I suppose my question really was can you hear a difference between the two
formats?


My question would be: How hard do you want to try and hear a difference?

Listening to different sounds from different sources in different locations
in different conditions requires that we make some sort of
(subconscious?)accomodation, otherwise most of what we heard would be too
hideous. You've attracted some serious ********** comments here - have a go
at this *untreated* vinyl transcription to 256K MP3 and just see if you
*like* it and let me know:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...ensensatez.mp3


Hint: loudspeakers and a little distance represents 'normal listening
conditions' for most of the human race....

@;-)

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"Michael Chare" wrote


I suppose my question really was can you hear a difference between the
two formats?


My question would be: How hard do you want to try and hear a difference?

Listening to different sounds from different sources in different
locations in different conditions requires that we make some sort of
(subconscious?)accomodation, otherwise most of what we heard would be too
hideous. You've attracted some serious ********** comments here - have a
go at this *untreated* vinyl transcription to 256K MP3 and just see if you
*like* it and let me know:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...ensensatez.mp3


Whether I like it or not is really another matter.
:-)


--
Michael Chare

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"Keith G" wrote in message
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"Michael Chare" wrote


I suppose my question really was can you hear a difference between the
two formats?


My question would be: How hard do you want to try and hear a difference?

Listening to different sounds from different sources in different
locations in different conditions requires that we make some sort of
(subconscious?)accomodation, otherwise most of what we heard would be too
hideous. You've attracted some serious ********** comments here - have a
go at this *untreated* vinyl transcription to 256K MP3 and just see if
you *like* it and let me know:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...ensensatez.mp3


Whether I like it or not is really another matter.
:-)


OK, no worries - but it prompts me to try summat else....

If you (or anyone else) can be arsed, compare these 'identical' clips
without discovering the various bitrates and see if you can easily split
them and/or evolve a favourite or best simply by *listening* to them:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...0Clip%2001.mp3

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...0Clip%2002.mp3

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...0Clip%2003.mp3

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...0Clip%2004.mp3


My contention is that few (if any) people will be able to split them by only
listening to them and that it doesn't matter anyway - low bitrate MP3s are
for 'mobile music' in any case!!

"Keith G" wrote


If you (or anyone else) can be arsed, compare these 'identical' clips
without discovering the various bitrates and see if you can easily split
them and/or evolve a favourite or best simply by *listening* to them:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...0Clip%2001.mp3

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...0Clip%2002.mp3

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...0Clip%2003.mp3

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...0Clip%2004.mp3


My contention is that few (if any) people will be able to split them by
only listening to them and that it doesn't matter anyway - low bitrate
MP3s are for 'mobile music' in any case!!


I've played these to 'Golden Ears' (Swim Bo) and she has completely knocked
me on my arse by getting them *dead right* ('qualitywise')- maybe I'm
totally wrong here....!!

(Must be my 'Vinyleers'!! :-)

"Keith G" wrote in message
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"Michael Chare" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote in message
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"Michael Chare" wrote


I suppose my question really was can you hear a difference between the
two formats?


My question would be: How hard do you want to try and hear a difference?

Listening to different sounds from different sources in different
locations in different conditions requires that we make some sort of
(subconscious?)accomodation, otherwise most of what we heard would be
too hideous. You've attracted some serious ********** comments here -
have a go at this *untreated* vinyl transcription to 256K MP3 and just
see if you *like* it and let me know:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...ensensatez.mp3


Whether I like it or not is really another matter.
:-)


OK, no worries - but it prompts me to try summat else....

If you (or anyone else) can be arsed, compare these 'identical' clips
without discovering the various bitrates and see if you can easily split
them and/or evolve a favourite or best simply by *listening* to them:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...0Clip%2001.mp3

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...0Clip%2002.mp3

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...0Clip%2003.mp3

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...0Clip%2004.mp3


My contention is that few (if any) people will be able to split them by
only listening to them and that it doesn't matter anyway - low bitrate
MP3s are for 'mobile music' in any case!!

"Keith G" wrote in message
...

"Keith G" wrote in message
...


If you (or anyone else) can be arsed, compare these 'identical' clips
without discovering the various bitrates and see if you can easily split
them and/or evolve a favourite or best simply by *listening* to them:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...0Clip%2001.mp3

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...0Clip%2002.mp3

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...0Clip%2003.mp3

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...0Clip%2004.mp3


My contention is that few (if any) people will be able to split them by
only listening to them and that it doesn't matter anyway - low bitrate
MP3s are for 'mobile music' in any case!!

I can play the clips on my PC, but how do I download them so that I can
play them on something else?
(using IE)

--
Michael Chare

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"Keith G" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote in message
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If you (or anyone else) can be arsed, compare these 'identical' clips
without discovering the various bitrates and see if you can easily split
them and/or evolve a favourite or best simply by *listening* to them:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...0Clip%2001.mp3

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...0Clip%2002.mp3

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...0Clip%2003.mp3

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...0Clip%2004.mp3


My contention is that few (if any) people will be able to split them by
only listening to them and that it doesn't matter anyway - low bitrate
MP3s are for 'mobile music' in any case!!

I can play the clips on my PC, but how do I download them so that I can
play them on something else?
(using IE)


Right mouse click on the 'SampleClicknn' link and select 'Save Target As'
and watch where it wants to put them.

Try to play them without 'giving the game awayas to bitrates' to make your
comparisons. It's really a 'better or worse' you are looking for - play 'em
only two or three times at the most or you'll be lost!

(My 'bidey-in' was so *on the money* with these clips I think I'll have to
change my views on how *other people* hear MP3s!! @:-)