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Old December 23rd 09, 06:17 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
David Looser
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Keith G wrote:


Same sort of thing in MVC (?) St Ives, Cambs - I asked the two (female)
assistants doing *not a lot* behind the counter if they had any SACDs a
year or two back and got blank looks from both of them. (No wonder SACDs
didn't take off!!)


SACDs would have taken off had they satisfied a consumer demand, but they
didn't. Too often the big consumer electronics comapanies get off on the
cleverness of their new technology and forget that the product has to offer
the consumer something (s)he is willing to pay for. SACD simply didn't do
that.

David.



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Old December 23rd 09, 11:25 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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"David Looser" wrote:

"Eiron" wrote in message
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Keith G wrote:


Same sort of thing in MVC (?) St Ives, Cambs - I asked the two (female)
assistants doing *not a lot* behind the counter if they had any SACDs a
year or two back and got blank looks from both of them. (No wonder SACDs
didn't take off!!)


SACDs would have taken off had they satisfied a consumer demand, but they
didn't. Too often the big consumer electronics comapanies get off on the
cleverness of their new technology and forget that the product has to offer
the consumer something (s)he is willing to pay for. SACD simply didn't do
that.


That said, had the major labels both supported hybrids and stopped
producing cds, few would have complained and the real benefits such as
multi-channel capability would have been available.

Stephen
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Old December 25th 09, 08:34 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Frank[_2_]
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SACD:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/SoWhat01.mp3

Vinyl (no declicking):

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/SoWhat02.mp3

Vinyl (declicked with Izotope, believe it or not)

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/SoWhat03.mp3


Enjoy!



Why does the second track sound better than the first one?

Frank
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Old December 25th 09, 10:45 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 22:34:08 +0100, Frank
wrote:

SACD:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/SoWhat01.mp3

Vinyl (no declicking):

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/SoWhat02.mp3

Vinyl (declicked with Izotope, believe it or not)

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/SoWhat03.mp3


Enjoy!



Why does the second track sound better than the first one?


Higher level.

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Old December 26th 09, 11:59 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
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"Ken" wrote in message
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On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 22:34:08 +0100, Frank
wrote:

SACD:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/SoWhat01.mp3

Vinyl (no declicking):

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/SoWhat02.mp3

Vinyl (declicked with Izotope, believe it or not)

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/SoWhat03.mp3


Enjoy!



Why does the second track sound better than the first one?


Higher level.



Actually, it isn't - if you look at the waveforms you will see the SACD
track (01) is louder in the right channel than the LP and the LP track (02)
is louder than the SACD in the left channel.

It's the best compromise I could get: the SACD clip recorded at a much lower
overall level than the LP and I had to bring up the volume and try to match
it manually in the recording software at the 'crossover point' - a kludge at
the best of times, but close enough for *listening* purposes.

Anyway, A/B comparisons like this are meaningless to anyone other than
'measurement freaks' - if anyone is looking for a 'winner' in situations
like this, the only way to choose between SACD/CD and 'vinyl' is to have
both, play both and see which one 'wins' (is played the most) over a period
of time.

Something I did a long time ago....

@;-)



 




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