Normally, I don't solicit (or usually get) comments and/or criticisms
when I post little 'fun' recordings and vinyl transcription clips but
this time I'm curious - anybody got any comments on this one:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/GeorgiaM.mp3


Is it *too* mellow?

Keith Garratt wrote:

Normally, I don't solicit (or usually get) comments and/or criticisms
when I post little 'fun' recordings and vinyl transcription clips but
this time I'm curious - anybody got any comments on this one:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/GeorgiaM.mp3


Is it *too* mellow?


Dunno about that but it had a good sound stage listening through the X-Fi sound
card and Sennheisers.

Here's a succint comment from the
producer of the UKRAinians.

http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches...UKRAinians.jpg

On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 08:56:39 +0200, "Iain Churches"
wrote:


Here's a succint comment from the
producer of the UKRAinians.

http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches...UKRAinians.jpg


Ouch! The mics aren't pointing anywhere in particular, all the faders
are down, the operator is monitoring on headphones and he's smoking
over the board! At least they've got the producer's ponytail right
:-)

Don't let Arny see the cartoon, he might think that's how it's done.

Laurence Payne wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 08:56:39 +0200, "Iain Churches"
wrote:

Here's a succint comment from the
producer of the UKRAinians.

http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches...UKRAinians.jpg


all the faders are down,

That's the way to get the best possible sound from a grunge band.

--
Bill Coombes

"Laurence Payne" wrote in message

On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 08:56:39 +0200, "Iain Churches"
wrote:


Here's a succint comment from the
producer of the UKRAinians.

http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches...UKRAinians.jpg


Ouch! The mics aren't pointing anywhere in particular,
all the faders are down, the operator is monitoring on
headphones and he's smoking over the board! At least
they've got the producer's ponytail right :-)

Don't let Arny see the cartoon, he might think that's how
it's done.

Another wounded ego is heard from.

"Keith Garratt" wrote in message

Normally, I don't solicit (or usually get) comments
and/or criticisms when I post little 'fun' recordings and
vinyl transcription clips but this time I'm curious -
anybody got any comments on this one:
http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/GeorgiaM.mp3


Is it *too* mellow?

Yes.

Sounded better with a broad dip around 100 Hz, and a linear 15 dB rise
starting at 1 KHz and ending at 15 KHz.

On 10/01/2010 21:12, Arny Krueger wrote:
"Keith wrote in message

Normally, I don't solicit (or usually get) comments
and/or criticisms when I post little 'fun' recordings and
vinyl transcription clips but this time I'm curious -
anybody got any comments on this one:
http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/GeorgiaM.mp3


Is it *too* mellow?

Yes.

Sounded better with a broad dip around 100 Hz, and a linear 15 dB rise
starting at 1 KHz and ending at 15 KHz.



OK.

"Keith Garratt" wrote in message
...
On 10/01/2010 21:12, Arny Krueger wrote:
"Keith wrote in message

Normally, I don't solicit (or usually get) comments
and/or criticisms when I post little 'fun' recordings and
vinyl transcription clips but this time I'm curious -
anybody got any comments on this one:
http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/GeorgiaM.mp3


Is it *too* mellow?

Yes.

Sounded better with a broad dip around 100 Hz, and a linear 15 dB rise
starting at 1 KHz and ending at 15 KHz.



OK.


No. Not OK.

An EQ slope starting at 1kHz and rising to +15dB
at 15kHz makes the track glassy and unnatural.

Arny should be taught how to evaluate a track by listening, not
by looking at a frequency analysis plot on a PC, and trying to fill
in what he thinks might be missing.

One should listen carefully to the instruments in their own
acoustic environment before even attempting to capture them
in a recording.

EQ on overall mixes is best kept to very moderate amounts,
perhaps 2-3dB. Larger changes need to be made on individual
instruments if they are required. For example, an attempt to
brighten the piano on a overall mix can easily turn the clarinet
(woodwind) into a glasswind instrument.

I thought your clarinet sound was good, Keith - clean,
sufficiently bright, and nicely woody.

Iain

On 11/01/2010 10:39, Iain Churches wrote:
"Keith wrote in message
...
On 10/01/2010 21:12, Arny Krueger wrote:
"Keith wrote in message

Normally, I don't solicit (or usually get) comments
and/or criticisms when I post little 'fun' recordings and
vinyl transcription clips but this time I'm curious -
anybody got any comments on this one:
http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/GeorgiaM.mp3


Is it *too* mellow?

Yes.

Sounded better with a broad dip around 100 Hz, and a linear 15 dB rise
starting at 1 KHz and ending at 15 KHz.



OK.


No. Not OK.

An EQ slope starting at 1kHz and rising to +15dB
at 15kHz makes the track glassy and unnatural.

Arny should be taught how to evaluate a track by listening, not
by looking at a frequency analysis plot on a PC, and trying to fill
in what he thinks might be missing.

One should listen carefully to the instruments in their own
acoustic environment before even attempting to capture them
in a recording.

EQ on overall mixes is best kept to very moderate amounts,
perhaps 2-3dB. Larger changes need to be made on individual
instruments if they are required. For example, an attempt to
brighten the piano on a overall mix can easily turn the clarinet
(woodwind) into a glasswind instrument.

I thought your clarinet sound was good, Keith - clean,
sufficiently bright, and nicely woody.


Thanks, Iain - that's the AKG 'SolidTube' valve mic through the 'ultra
low noise' SS mic amp I mentioned on here a few months back.

(I prefer the idea of not using 'valve on valve'...??)


Anyway, here's the original again:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/GeorgiaM.mp3


And here's Arny's suggestion (EQ is not *my* work):

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/GeorgiaMEQ.mp3


So, it's a simple case of 'better or worse?'...??

What does the team think?