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blackbat January 30th 10 11:42 PM

mp3 player output volumes
 
On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 19:29:28 +0000, Laurence Payne
wrote:

I want to see the device as an simple
external drive


Exactly
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Jim Lesurf[_2_] January 31st 10 08:14 AM

mp3 player output volumes
 
In article , blackbat
wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 18:52:57 -0000, "Woody"
wrote:


Why hate iTunes? You don't have to use it to buy anything but it
really is quite good at managing the contents of an iPod.


I know some people like it.


I guess I can't see what could be easier than dragging and dropping in
Windows. Simply using my mp3 player in the style of a memory stick.


I've got a thing about bloating my PC with unnecessary proprietary
software.


ahem Too late to worry about that if you are already using Windows. 8-]

More seriously, if you can't find an mp3 player that outputs a high enough
level then you could experiment as follows. (Assuming you are happy to
solder leads, etc.)

Buy a couple of the small signal transformers sold by CPC or similar. Try
using those to step up the output from the player. I have no idea if that
will work, but may be worth a punt if all else fails.

Slainte,

Jim

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Adrian C January 31st 10 12:51 PM

mp3 player output volumes
 
On 30/01/2010 19:10, blackbat wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 18:52:57 -0000, "Woody"
wrote:

Why hate iTunes? You don't have to use it tobuy anything but
it really is quite good at managing the contents of an iPod.


I know some people like it.

I guess I can't see what could be easier than dragging and dropping in
Windows. Simply using my mp3 player in the style of a memory stick.

I've got a thing about bloating my PC with unnecessary proprietary
software.


The iPod is also bloated then, doubt you actually will use playlists,
genius or their genre library management features.

Why not remove the Apple firmware and install rockbox?

http://www.rockbox.org

Then you can drag and drop to your hearts content :-)

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Adrian C

Dave Plowman (News) January 31st 10 01:58 PM

mp3 player output volumes
 
In article ,
David Looser wrote:
"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
om...


I wonder what the output of these devices is supposed to drive, impedance
wise?


Most headphones for portable players are 32 ohm.


Yup. And capable of driving to a true line level - although perhaps not
with the same sort of headroom as pro gear.

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Adrian C January 31st 10 05:10 PM

mp3 player output volumes
 
On 31/01/2010 14:58, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In ,
David wrote:
"Brian wrote in message
om...


I wonder what the output of these devices is supposed to drive, impedance
wise?


Most headphones for portable players are 32 ohm.


Yup. And capable of driving to a true line level - although perhaps not
with the same sort of headroom as pro gear.


That 'line level' drive out of the earphone socket is usually with the
players volume control straining at the limit, and probably over the
limit that is judged safe to let loose on young ears. So not many
players make those levels connected that way. It's also hissy.

I much prefer using real line level connections (as with Apple)
available at the docking connector.

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Adrian C

blackbat January 31st 10 05:30 PM

mp3 player output volumes
 
On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 13:51:57 +0000, Adrian C
wrote:


The iPod is also bloated then, doubt you actually will use playlists,
genius or their genre library management features.

Why not remove the Apple firmware and install rockbox?


Cos I haven't got any Apple software :-)


http://www.rockbox.org

Then you can drag and drop to your hearts content :-)



Maybe, but it would mean buying an ipod. Not summat I want to do.
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Don Pearce[_3_] January 31st 10 05:39 PM

mp3 player output volumes
 
On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 13:51:57 +0000, Adrian C
wrote:

On 30/01/2010 19:10, blackbat wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 18:52:57 -0000, "Woody"
wrote:

Why hate iTunes? You don't have to use it tobuy anything but
it really is quite good at managing the contents of an iPod.


I know some people like it.

I guess I can't see what could be easier than dragging and dropping in
Windows. Simply using my mp3 player in the style of a memory stick.

I've got a thing about bloating my PC with unnecessary proprietary
software.


The iPod is also bloated then, doubt you actually will use playlists,
genius or their genre library management features.

Why not remove the Apple firmware and install rockbox?

http://www.rockbox.org

Then you can drag and drop to your hearts content :-)


I have an unused (for the very reasons already rehearsed) ipod, and
when I read your post, I thought I could possibly actually use it. No
such luck - rockbox doesn't support it.

Oh well, back in the drawer.

d

Adrian C January 31st 10 06:10 PM

mp3 player output volumes
 
On 31/01/2010 18:30, blackbat wrote:

Cos I haven't got any Apple software :-)


http://www.rockbox.org

Then you can drag and drop to your hearts content :-)



Maybe, but it would mean buying an ipod. Not summat I want to do.


Yup. I realised that soon after I posted. Was tring to keep silent my
"Doh" moment after that slip.

Anyway, the transformer voltage stepup Jim was proposing might be worth
pursuing. A couple of LT700's from Maplin?

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Adrian C

Adrian C January 31st 10 06:16 PM

mp3 player output volumes
 
On 31/01/2010 18:39, Don Pearce wrote:

I have an unused (for the very reasons already rehearsed) ipod, and
when I read your post, I thought I could possibly actually use it. No
such luck - rockbox doesn't support it.

Oh well, back in the drawer.


If it's that old, it may support Winamp's builtin 'disk mode' access?

Nationwide, there is a "drawer" in every household where gadgets bought
as either presents or snap buys, go to rest. Go on, free these things!
It's cruel! They want to see daylight!

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Adrian C

bcoombes January 31st 10 06:29 PM

mp3 player output volumes
 
Adrian C wrote:
On 31/01/2010 18:39, Don Pearce wrote:

I have an unused (for the very reasons already rehearsed) ipod, and
when I read your post, I thought I could possibly actually use it. No
such luck - rockbox doesn't support it.

Oh well, back in the drawer.


If it's that old, it may support Winamp's builtin 'disk mode' access?

Nationwide, there is a "drawer" in every household where gadgets bought
as either presents or snap buys, go to rest.


There sure is such a draw, the problem is that most of the things in it are
extremely deficient in the memory department. :)

Go on, free these things!
It's cruel! They want to see daylight!


They will eventually, just before they are melted down somewhere in India.


--
Bill Coombes


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