Hi all, never posted in here before but seems you might be able to
help.

I'm looking for an MP3 player to use with an FM transmitter in my car
and occasionally an external speaker via the earphone socket.

Not headphones.

Both of the aforementioned devices benefit from a player with a high
output volume.

I've asked elsewhere but keep getting told that some headphones are
more efficient than others even though I clearly stated that I do NOT
want to use the player with headphones.

I'm also aware that some players have a switchable volume level.

I have tied a Sandisk, Creative and a Sony. None seem to go as loud as
my daughter's 3rd gen ipod. Trouble is I hate iTunes with a passion.

I've got a large mp3 library and don't want to re-record at higher
levels.

So, any websites that have reviews that include output level info?
Anyone got any ideas for players with a reputation for a decent
output?


TIA
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I wonder what the output of these devices is supposed to drive, impedance
wise? I know they all vary, but into different phones, they do not all seem
to vary by the same amount, which leads me to think, that like many other
portable devices, they are sensitive to what they are driving, and not
always in a good way.


Of course some have that awful sounding ear protection limiter, which from
what I hear is designed to make the device sound so bad, you have to turn it
down!

Brian

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"blackbat" wrote in message
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Hi all, never posted in here before but seems you might be able to
help.

I'm looking for an MP3 player to use with an FM transmitter in my car
and occasionally an external speaker via the earphone socket.

Not headphones.

Both of the aforementioned devices benefit from a player with a high
output volume.

I've asked elsewhere but keep getting told that some headphones are
more efficient than others even though I clearly stated that I do NOT
want to use the player with headphones.

I'm also aware that some players have a switchable volume level.

I have tied a Sandisk, Creative and a Sony. None seem to go as loud as
my daughter's 3rd gen ipod. Trouble is I hate iTunes with a passion.

I've got a large mp3 library and don't want to re-record at higher
levels.

So, any websites that have reviews that include output level info?
Anyone got any ideas for players with a reputation for a decent
output?


TIA
--

blackbat /\x/\

On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 17:10:08 GMT, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

I wonder what the output of these devices is supposed to drive, impedance
wise? I know they all vary, but into different phones, they do not all seem
to vary by the same amount, which leads me to think, that like many other
portable devices, they are sensitive to what they are driving, and not
always in a good way.

Possibly.


Of course some have that awful sounding ear protection limiter, which from
what I hear is designed to make the device sound so bad, you have to turn it
down!

Or off, which most people seem to do.
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"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
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I wonder what the output of these devices is supposed to drive, impedance
wise?

Most headphones for portable players are 32 ohm.

David.

In article ,
David Looser wrote:
"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
om...

I wonder what the output of these devices is supposed to drive, impedance
wise?

Most headphones for portable players are 32 ohm.

Yup. And capable of driving to a true line level - although perhaps not
with the same sort of headroom as pro gear.

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On 31/01/2010 14:58, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In ,
David wrote:
"Brian wrote in message
om...

I wonder what the output of these devices is supposed to drive, impedance
wise?

Most headphones for portable players are 32 ohm.

Yup. And capable of driving to a true line level - although perhaps not
with the same sort of headroom as pro gear.


That 'line level' drive out of the earphone socket is usually with the
players volume control straining at the limit, and probably over the
limit that is judged safe to let loose on young ears. So not many
players make those levels connected that way. It's also hissy.

I much prefer using real line level connections (as with Apple)
available at the docking connector.

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Adrian C

On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 16:53:21 +0000, blackbat
wrote:

Hi all, never posted in here before but seems you might be able to
help.

I'm looking for an MP3 player to use with an FM transmitter in my car
and occasionally an external speaker via the earphone socket.

Not headphones.

Both of the aforementioned devices benefit from a player with a high
output volume.

I've asked elsewhere but keep getting told that some headphones are
more efficient than others even though I clearly stated that I do NOT
want to use the player with headphones.

I'm also aware that some players have a switchable volume level.

I have tied a Sandisk, Creative and a Sony. None seem to go as loud as
my daughter's 3rd gen ipod. Trouble is I hate iTunes with a passion.

I've got a large mp3 library and don't want to re-record at higher
levels.

So, any websites that have reviews that include output level info?
Anyone got any ideas for players with a reputation for a decent
output?



As you are going to be using it with an external amplifier - whether
that is an FM transmitter or an external speaker, presumably via an
amplifier - the volume should not really be an issue. You just adjust
for the right level. Anything should be able to do that.

I have a Tomtom sat nav that stores MP3s on an SD card, and plays them
via the car's FM radio. That seems to work very well, and I imagine
that people in the surrounding cars can enjoy it too.

d

On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 17:10:54 GMT, (Don Pearce) wrote:


As you are going to be using it with an external amplifier - whether
that is an FM transmitter or an external speaker, presumably via an
amplifier - the volume should not really be an issue. You just adjust
for the right level. Anything should be able to do that.
Not in my case. The FM transmitter is set to its max volume and so is
the speaker.
The speaker is a great little device by the way...
http://tinyurl.com/yd2m5x6




I have a Tomtom sat nav that stores MP3s on an SD card, and plays them
via the car's FM radio. That seems to work very well, and I imagine
that people in the surrounding cars can enjoy it too.
hee hee.

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"blackbat" wrote in message
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Hi all, never posted in here before but seems you might be able
to
help.

I'm looking for an MP3 player to use with an FM transmitter in
my car
and occasionally an external speaker via the earphone socket.

Not headphones.

Both of the aforementioned devices benefit from a player with a
high
output volume.

I've asked elsewhere but keep getting told that some headphones
are
more efficient than others even though I clearly stated that I
do NOT
want to use the player with headphones.

I'm also aware that some players have a switchable volume
level.

I have tied a Sandisk, Creative and a Sony. None seem to go as
loud as
my daughter's 3rd gen ipod. Trouble is I hate iTunes with a
passion.

I've got a large mp3 library and don't want to re-record at
higher
levels.

So, any websites that have reviews that include output level
info?
Anyone got any ideas for players with a reputation for a decent
output?



Why hate iTunes? You don't have to use it to buy anything but
it really is quite good at managing the contents of an iPod.



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On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 18:52:57 -0000, "Woody"
wrote:

Why hate iTunes? You don't have to use it to buy anything but
it really is quite good at managing the contents of an iPod.

I know some people like it.

I guess I can't see what could be easier than dragging and dropping in
Windows. Simply using my mp3 player in the style of a memory stick.

I've got a thing about bloating my PC with unnecessary proprietary
software.

And (apart from my volume problem) I can't see that an ipod is worth
twice the price of a Sony.
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blackbat /\x/\