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In article ,
Jim Lesurf wrote:
I wonder what part of 1% of the population own an audio system for the
purpose of listening to spoken word?

Which population, where? In the UK I suspect that quite a number of
people spend a fair amount of their listening time on speech from
sources like radio 4. Like yourself I have no idea what percentage of
the population they may be. But I'd be surprised to find it was less
than 1 percent.

It's fairly obvious Iain only listens to music. Needs the comfort of
'wallpaper' round him at all times.

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"Iain Churches" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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It's like people who want speakers that are good for
jazz or good for classical music or rock.

Are you saying you cannot hear the difference between
JBL, Tannoy, Kef, B+W etc,

The first big, no huge mistake that Iain makes here is expressing the false
idea that speaker manufacturers always give all of their products a
characteristic sound that is identified with that manufacturer. In fact the
better manufacturers have this strong tendency to make the best speaker that
they can make at the time for the particular market segment. This
necessarily results in production of speakers that have an individual sound
quality. The larger speaker developers, particularly JBL have multiple
development teams and develop speakers for multiple markets, so their
products naturally sound very different. Then there are the effects of time.
No way will a manufacturer continue to develop speakers with the sonic
limitations that past technology may have forced on them.

and that you cannot recognise
the strengths and weaknesses of each in various type of
music?

If the goal of a good loudspeaker is sonic accuracy, then no good speaker
should have different strengths and weaknesses for each of the various kinds
of music. Accurate reproduction of jazz requires the same technical
excellence as reproduction of orchestral music.

Practical experience with modern speaker systems reinforces the idea that a
good speaker is a good speaker, regardless of the musical genre or even
whether the recording is music. It may be true that the flat-to-10 Hz
subwoofer does not get stressed during playback of recordings of flute
solos. However, flute music is not a musical genre unto itself, but rather a
narrow segment of traditional classical music which includes works for full
orchestra and even the pipe organ. Thus, all of the extant musical genres as
well as drama demand accurate, dynamic, full-range, uncolored (as possible)
performance.

Consider a person with highly undifferentiated musical tastes such as
myself. Do I need to line the walls of my listening room with an array of
speakers, one pair for each musical genre that I enjoy? I would surely hope
not!

JBL is quite remarkable for what people still term the West Coast Sound
but who would choose them for a
string quartet?

Interesting that you should mention this, Iain. I was doing formal
evaluations of loudspeakers with some friends including an AES fellow about
a week ago. We were joking about how colored many popular speakers such as
the JBL L100 from the late 1960s and early 1970s actually were. Compared to
competitive products of that bygone era from AR and KLH, there definitely
was such a thing as east coast sound and west coast sound. Thing is, that
was over 40 years ago. Only JBL persists as anything like their 1970s
organization. The L100 is not representative of their modern products.
*Everything* has changed Iain while you were apparently asleep.

Speaks to your out-of-date understanding of the modern audio marketplace,
Iain. Have you actually listened to any of JBL's recent products of say,
modern, high quality studio monitors? They are as good on rock as classical
or even drama, and that is very good indeed. You need to get out more!

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"Iain Churches" wrote in message

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in
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It seems strange to me that any reading this sort of
group doesn't think the same. If all they are interested
in is music, they're in the wrong group. As I've said
many many times before.

I wonder what part of 1% of the population own
an audio system for the purpose of listening to
spoken word?

Since spoken word is part and parcel of drama (IOW movies) I would think:
LOTS!

Iain, do you even own a DVD player? Ever turn it on and use it for its
intended purpose?

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"David Looser" wrote in
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"Iain Churches" wrote in message
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in
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It seems strange to me that any reading this sort of
group doesn't think the same. If all they are
interested in is music, they're in the wrong group. As
I've said many many times before.

I wonder what part of 1% of the population own
an audio system for the purpose of listening to
spoken word?


I wonder what part of 1% of audio systems are never used
to listen to the spoken word? My guess is that far more
systems are used primarily for listening to the spoken
word than are used exclusively for music.

+1

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"Iain Churches" wrote in message


Did you listen to the big band recording clip I
posted, David? Have you considered what is
actually involved? I look forward to reading your
reply.

I ws reminded of the fact that recording technology has progressed
significantly since the day that recording was made. It's colored and
unnatural sounding.

BTW Iain, please document the production steps from media to MP3 file, and
indicate which ones you actually performed with your own little hands?

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"Laurence Payne" wrote in message

On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 08:29:15 -0000, "David Looser"
wrote:

I wonder what part of 1% of audio systems are never used
to listen to the spoken word? My guess is that far more
systems are used primarily for listening to the spoken
word than are used exclusively for music.

If by "system" you include the bedside radio,the kitchen
radio, the car radio...

...the portable digital player with built-in FM radio...

Yes, I guess your guess is right.

Based on the european automotive products we receive over here, the
renaissance of sound quality in automobiles that we have been enjoying for
the past decade or so is yet to strike on the other side of the pond. Sad.

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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Iain Churches" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...

It's like people who want speakers that are good for
jazz or good for classical music or rock.

Are you saying you cannot hear the difference between
JBL, Tannoy, Kef, B+W etc,

The first big, no huge mistake that Iain makes here



The first big mistake you made here is braying to the gallery - rest snipped
unread....

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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Iain Churches" wrote in message


Did you listen to the big band recording clip I
posted, David? Have you considered what is
actually involved? I look forward to reading your
reply.

I ws reminded of the fact that recording technology has progressed
significantly since the day that recording was made. It's colored and
unnatural sounding.

BTW Iain, please document the production steps from media to MP3 file, and
indicate which ones you actually performed with your own little hands?



Snide. As usual....

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"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
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In article , Iain Churches
wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...

It seems strange to me that any reading this sort of group doesn't
think the same. If all they are interested in is music, they're in the
wrong group. As I've said many many times before.


I wonder what part of 1% of the population own an audio system for the
purpose of listening to spoken word?

Which population, where? In the UK I suspect that quite a number of people
spend a fair amount of their listening time on speech from sources like
radio 4. Like yourself I have no idea what percentage of the population
they may be. But I'd be surprised to find it was less than 1 percent.


I was thinking about those who listen *exclusively*
to spoken word as opposed to music.

Iain

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In article ,
Iain Churches wrote:

"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
...
In article , Iain Churches
wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...

It seems strange to me that any reading this sort of group doesn't
think the same. If all they are interested in is music, they're in
the wrong group. As I've said many many times before.


I wonder what part of 1% of the population own an audio system for
the purpose of listening to spoken word?

Which population, where? In the UK I suspect that quite a number of
people spend a fair amount of their listening time on speech from
sources like radio 4. Like yourself I have no idea what percentage of
the population they may be. But I'd be surprised to find it was less
than 1 percent.


I was thinking about those who listen *exclusively*
to spoken word as opposed to music.

I doubt many listen to just one thing exclusively.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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