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Jim Lesurf[_2_] February 22nd 10 08:43 AM

Small but decent speakers
 
In article , Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:
In article , Iain Churches
wrote:


I wonder what part of 1% of the population own an audio system for
the purpose of listening to spoken word?

Which population, where? In the UK I suspect that quite a number of
people spend a fair amount of their listening time on speech from
sources like radio 4. Like yourself I have no idea what percentage
of the population they may be. But I'd be surprised to find it was
less than 1 percent.


I was thinking about those who listen *exclusively* to spoken word as
opposed to music.


I doubt many listen to just one thing exclusively.


I also suspect that many people watch TV and films and listen to the radio,
and spend far more time intentionally listening to speech than to music.
Apart from 'enthusiasts' like those here I suspect that these days many
people listen to 'AV' systems, not 'audio', but of course that still
requires an audio system as part of its functioning.

Certainly I listen to R4 and watch BBC4 quite a fair bit. These days R4
often via iPlayer. And still find it good to be able to listen via a decent
audio setup.

Slainte,

Jim

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Dave Plowman (News) February 22nd 10 10:17 AM

Small but decent speakers
 
In article ,
Jim Lesurf wrote:
I was thinking about those who listen *exclusively* to spoken word
as opposed to music.


I doubt many listen to just one thing exclusively.


I also suspect that many people watch TV and films and listen to the
radio, and spend far more time intentionally listening to speech than to
music. Apart from 'enthusiasts' like those here I suspect that these
days many people listen to 'AV' systems, not 'audio', but of course that
still requires an audio system as part of its functioning.


Certainly I listen to R4 and watch BBC4 quite a fair bit. These days R4
often via iPlayer. And still find it good to be able to listen via a
decent audio setup.


I have an HD satellite receiver with a rotatable dish - and the receiver
also includes a FreeView tuner. With the changes in FreeView a few months
ago I had to do a hard reset otherwise it wouldn't retune to the changed
FreeView channels - it could only sort of add to them without. So of
course lost all the satellite stuff too. I then had to go through the new
satellite channel lists and make favourites - otherwise the EPG on some is
simply too large at nearing 1000 channels. Most of which is either
encrypted or rubbish. But worth it for the odd gem.
But what was noticeable was just how poor some of the sound was on these
small channels. Seemed to be wound up to maximum and then some. Some of
the 'arab' channels being the worst.

--
*Why is it called tourist season if we can't shoot at them?

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Iain Churches[_2_] February 23rd 10 06:02 AM

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"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
...
In article , Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:
In article , Iain Churches
wrote:


I wonder what part of 1% of the population own an audio system for
the purpose of listening to spoken word?

Which population, where? In the UK I suspect that quite a number of
people spend a fair amount of their listening time on speech from
sources like radio 4. Like yourself I have no idea what percentage
of the population they may be. But I'd be surprised to find it was
less than 1 percent.


I was thinking about those who listen *exclusively* to spoken word as
opposed to music.


I doubt many listen to just one thing exclusively.


I also suspect that many people watch TV and films and listen to the
radio,
and spend far more time intentionally listening to speech than to music.
Apart from 'enthusiasts' like those here I suspect that these days many
people listen to 'AV' systems, not 'audio', but of course that still
requires an audio system as part of its functioning.

Certainly I listen to R4 and watch BBC4 quite a fair bit. These days R4
often via iPlayer. And still find it good to be able to listen via a
decent
audio setup.


I wonder how many people still have a "music only system"
in addition to what is attached to the TV?

Iain








Iain Churches[_2_] February 23rd 10 06:03 AM

Small but decent speakers
 

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Iain Churches wrote:

"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
...
In article , Iain Churches
wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...

It seems strange to me that any reading this sort of group doesn't
think the same. If all they are interested in is music, they're in
the wrong group. As I've said many many times before.


I wonder what part of 1% of the population own an audio system for
the purpose of listening to spoken word?

Which population, where? In the UK I suspect that quite a number of
people spend a fair amount of their listening time on speech from
sources like radio 4. Like yourself I have no idea what percentage of
the population they may be. But I'd be surprised to find it was less
than 1 percent.


I was thinking about those who listen *exclusively*
to spoken word as opposed to music.


I doubt many listen to just one thing exclusively.


Yes. That was my point. With all respect,
I got the feeling that perhaps you do, as you have
never metioned a word here about music.

Iain




Dave Plowman (News) February 23rd 10 09:44 AM

Small but decent speakers
 
In article ,
Iain Churches wrote:
I doubt many listen to just one thing exclusively.


Yes. That was my point. With all respect,
I got the feeling that perhaps you do, as you have
never metioned a word here about music.


Deliberately so as it's an audio group.

I don't feel the need to tell the world what I'm listening to at the
moment - or try and show off my knowledge of the subject. Plenty of groups
to do that on if that's what you want.

--
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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Laurence Payne[_2_] February 23rd 10 10:56 AM

Small but decent speakers
 
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 09:02:10 +0200, "Iain Churches"
wrote:

I wonder how many people still have a "music only system"
in addition to what is attached to the TV?


About 3. And they're all bloody well here!

Iain Churches[_2_] February 24th 10 05:53 AM

Small but decent speakers
 

"Laurence Payne" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 09:02:10 +0200, "Iain Churches"
wrote:

I wonder how many people still have a "music only system"
in addition to what is attached to the TV?


About 3. And they're all bloody well here!


So who are the other two?

Iain





Iain Churches[_2_] February 24th 10 05:54 AM

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"Keith G" wrote in message
...

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...


I ws reminded of the fact that recording technology has progressed
significantly since the day that recording was made.


The technology is of no consequence..
It is the technique that is of interest.


The same principles are still applied, as demonstrated by
new recordings from the Swedish Radio Big Band, and
some incredible tracks by Albert Mangelsdorff with
WDR BB that use the very same ideas, split saxophones,
crossed over reverb and short delay on trombone reverb.
Try it sometimes Arny, with the TBBB.


It's colored and
unnatural sounding.



Snide. As usual....


Can any one take seriously a comment about
"coloured and un-natural" from the man who
gave us Domine?

Iain














bcoombes February 24th 10 07:52 AM

Small but decent speakers
 
Iain Churches wrote:
"Laurence Payne" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 09:02:10 +0200, "Iain Churches"
wrote:

I wonder how many people still have a "music only system"
in addition to what is attached to the TV?

About 3. And they're all bloody well here!


So who are the other two?


holds hand up


--
Bill Coombes

Arny Krueger February 24th 10 11:51 AM

Small but decent speakers
 
"Iain Churches" wrote in message

"Keith G" wrote in message
...

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...


I ws reminded of the fact that recording technology has
progressed significantly since the day that recording
was made.


The technology is of no consequence..


Of course it is. Nobody in their right mind would make something that
sounded that wooden these days. Even the cheapest mics and digital recorders
have less inherent coloration.

It is the technique that is of interest.


Here we have another *incredible edible* audio (un) truth from Iain. He's
saying that technique is divorced from technology. Why some people around
here worship Iain escapes me - he's primarily useful as comic relief and a
ready source of audio mythologly.

BTW Iain, why aren't you answering my question about who actually did the
hands-on work for the MP3s that you are posting?




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