And why is a name that *might* bear some relationship to the shape any
more
"direct" than one that gives some idea of what the thing does?

Because over 3/4 of the population are "sensing" in terms of Jung's
typology - they use the information that comes directly from their
senses rather than theorising. What an object does is a further level
up in terms of child development, for instance, than what an object
simply looks like. In other words function is on a conceptual level
while image is mostly on the level of basic perception.

andy

"Andy Evans" wrote in message
...
And why is a name that *might* bear some relationship to the shape any
more
"direct" than one that gives some idea of what the thing does?

Because over 3/4 of the population are "sensing" in terms of Jung's
typology - they use the information that comes directly from their
senses rather than theorising. What an object does is a further level
up in terms of child development, for instance, than what an object
simply looks like. In other words function is on a conceptual level
while image is mostly on the level of basic perception.


What a load of irelevant cobblers! People call this thing a valve, a tube, a
bottle, or whatever, because that's what they were taught to call it. Nine
times out of ten they never even begin to think about "why" it's called what
it's called.

After the complete load of twaddle that was your last post you certainly do
seem to have a knack for talking total bull****. :-)

David.

What a load of irelevant cobblers! People call this thing a valve, a tube, a
bottle, or whatever, because that's what they were taught to call it. Nine
times out of ten they never even begin to think about "why" it's called what
it's called.

After the complete load of twaddle that was your last post you certainly do
seem to have a knack for talking total bull****. :-)

David.

David - it's called "psychology". You may have heard of it at some
point in your life. I'm a psychologist, I teach Performance Psychology
at MA level at one of the London universities, I have published 4
books on psychology, two being textbooks. I have appeared over 80
times on TV and Radio talking about various aspects of performance and
media psychology, including several appearances on the BBC News.

It should be fairly obvious to you that I'm well known and respected
in my particular field.

You're welcome to call psychology "twaddle" - that's your problem.

So do tell us what have you done in your own life that raises you
above the level of "twaddle"?

You seem to think you're "above" all this and no doubt inside your own
head you feel superior. Do you have any concrete evidence of your
superior thinking or is it just a self gratifying perception?

Andy

On 27/04/2010 08:06, Andy Evans wrote:
What a load of irelevant cobblers! People call this thing a valve, a tube, a
bottle, or whatever, because that's what they were taught to call it. Nine
times out of ten they never even begin to think about "why" it's called what
it's called.

After the complete load of twaddle that was your last post you certainly do
seem to have a knack for talking total bull****. :-)

David.

David - it's called "psychology". You may have heard of it at some
point in your life. I'm a psychologist, I teach Performance Psychology
at MA level at one of the London universities, I have published 4
books on psychology, two being textbooks. I have appeared over 80
times on TV and Radio talking about various aspects of performance and
media psychology, including several appearances on the BBC News.

It should be fairly obvious to you that I'm well known and respected
in my particular field.


Have you written any peer reviewed material at all?

Rob

On 27 Apr, 08:35, Rob wrote:
On 27/04/2010 08:06, Andy Evans wrote:





What a load of irelevant cobblers! People call this thing a valve, a tube, a
bottle, or whatever, because that's what they were taught to call it. Nine
times out of ten they never even begin to think about "why" it's called what
it's called.

After the complete load of twaddle that was your last post you certainly do
seem to have a knack for talking total bull****. :-)

David.

David - it's called "psychology". You may have heard of it at some
point in your life. I'm a psychologist, I teach Performance Psychology
at MA level at one of the London universities, I have published 4
books on psychology, two being textbooks. I have appeared over 80
times on TV and Radio talking about various aspects of performance and
media psychology, including several appearances on the BBC News.

It should be fairly obvious to you that I'm well known and respected
in my particular field.

Have you written any peer reviewed material at all?

Rob

The whole MA course I wrote and teach is constantly reviewed by
academics and external advisers - that's the nature of modern academic
courses.
Out of interest, have you asked yourself why peer reviewed material
should be the only form of writing that qualifies for respect, or did
you have something else in mind?

andy

On 27 Apr, 08:41, Andy Evans wrote:
On 27 Apr, 08:35, Rob wrote:





On 27/04/2010 08:06, Andy Evans wrote:

What a load of irelevant cobblers! People call this thing a valve, a tube, a
bottle, or whatever, because that's what they were taught to call it.. Nine
times out of ten they never even begin to think about "why" it's called what
it's called.

After the complete load of twaddle that was your last post you certainly do
seem to have a knack for talking total bull****. :-)

David.

David - it's called "psychology". You may have heard of it at some
point in your life. I'm a psychologist, I teach Performance Psychology
at MA level at one of the London universities, I have published 4
books on psychology, two being textbooks. I have appeared over 80
times on TV and Radio talking about various aspects of performance and
media psychology, including several appearances on the BBC News.

It should be fairly obvious to you that I'm well known and respected
in my particular field.

Have you written any peer reviewed material at all?

Rob

The whole MA course I wrote and teach is constantly reviewed by
academics and external advisers - that's the nature of modern academic
courses.
Out of interest, have you asked yourself why peer reviewed material
should be the only form of writing that qualifies for respect, or did
you have something else in mind?

andy

http://www.amazon.co.uk/product-revi...owViewpoints=1

The above gives you some idea of what I write. I have several articles
that are peer reviewed, and speeches at International Conferences are
routinely peer reviewed both in choosing them and in writing up the
proceedings. One of my earlier books was reviewed in the Independent
on Sunday by Anthony Storr, who in his particular field was one of the
most important authors and psychologists of his generation - an
awesome mind and a lovely guy who I had the honour of collaborating
with on a BBC "Science Now" programme. He wrote as follows -

“Evans not only gives excellent advice on how to cope with emotional
stress, but also guidance about planning and promoting the musician’s
career. This is a self-help book packed with information and full of
perceptive, non-doctrinaire psychological guidance. Every musician,
from schoolchild learner to established virtuoso, should find it
valuable.”

Andy

The joys of anti-culturalism -

Basil: Manuel!
Manuel: Sí, señor?
Basil: There is too much butter on those trays.
Manuel: Qué?
Sybil: You would've had them both done by now if you hadn't spent the
whole morning skulking in there listening to that racket.
Basil: Racket?! That's Brahms! Brahms' Third Racket!

(Fawlty Towers "A Touch of Class")

On 27/04/2010 09:12, Andy Evans wrote:
On 27 Apr, 08:41, Andy wrote:
On 27 Apr, 08:35, wrote:





On 27/04/2010 08:06, Andy Evans wrote:

What a load of irelevant cobblers! People call this thing a valve, a tube, a
bottle, or whatever, because that's what they were taught to call it. Nine
times out of ten they never even begin to think about "why" it's called what
it's called.

After the complete load of twaddle that was your last post you certainly do
seem to have a knack for talking total bull****. :-)

David.

David - it's called "psychology". You may have heard of it at some
point in your life. I'm a psychologist, I teach Performance Psychology
at MA level at one of the London universities, I have published 4
books on psychology, two being textbooks. I have appeared over 80
times on TV and Radio talking about various aspects of performance and
media psychology, including several appearances on the BBC News.

It should be fairly obvious to you that I'm well known and respected
in my particular field.

Have you written any peer reviewed material at all?

Rob

The whole MA course I wrote and teach is constantly reviewed by
academics and external advisers - that's the nature of modern academic
courses.

Yep, quite familiar with quality processes. I've never written an entire
MA (180 L7 credits! Hat off), students feed back as well, of course.

Out of interest, have you asked yourself why peer reviewed material
should be the only form of writing that qualifies for respect, or did
you have something else in mind?

andy


Peer review and citation index are quick/cruel estimates I use to get me
in the ballpark. I'm not saying (by the way) that the ballpark matters.
I couldn't see your name in either, which set me thinking, to which you
answer:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/product-revi...owViewpoints=1

The above gives you some idea of what I write.

You write your own reviews? :-) Amazon reviews are another estimate, but
not one that I'd rely on. I know of one example of academic literature
where the reviewers are sympathetic mates. Shame, becasue i rate the
material.

I have several articles
that are peer reviewed,

Ah, OK - it's just they don't come up on a quick litsearch - unless
you're A K Evans?

and speeches at International Conferences are
routinely peer reviewed both in choosing them and in writing up the
proceedings. One of my earlier books was reviewed in the Independent
on Sunday by Anthony Storr, who in his particular field was one of the
most important authors and psychologists of his generation - an
awesome mind and a lovely guy who I had the honour of collaborating
with on a BBC "Science Now" programme. He wrote as follows -

“Evans not only gives excellent advice on how to cope with emotional
stress, but also guidance about planning and promoting the musician’s
career. This is a self-help book packed with information and full of
perceptive, non-doctrinaire psychological guidance. Every musician,
from schoolchild learner to established virtuoso, should find it
valuable.”


Well done, nice review extract.

Rob

In article
,
Andy
Evans wrote:
What a load of irelevant cobblers! People call this thing a valve, a
tube, a bottle, or whatever, because that's what they were taught to
call it. Nine times out of ten they never even begin to think about
"why" it's called what it's called.

After the complete load of twaddle that was your last post you
certainly do seem to have a knack for talking total bull****. :-)

David.

David - it's called "psychology". You may have heard of it at some point
in your life. I'm a psychologist, I teach Performance Psychology at MA
level at one of the London universities, I have published 4 books on
psychology, two being textbooks. I have appeared over 80 times on TV and
Radio talking about various aspects of performance and media psychology,
including several appearances on the BBC News.

It should be fairly obvious to you that I'm well known and respected in
my particular field.

You're welcome to call psychology "twaddle" - that's your problem.

What I find curious about the above is that you have essentially shifted
responsibility for what you wrote away from being your own personal opinion
onto it being an established view in "psychology". Hence trying to deflect
any criticism of what you wrote onto a criticism of "psychology".

TBH I am less than convinced that all of what you wrote was *not* "twaddle"
just because you implicitly claim it is the established view of all
"psychologists". So far as I could tell it looks like the kind of jagonised
theorising that groups of people put up to cloud their lack of genuine
understanding. But of course I'm not a card-carrying "psychologist" so you
can easily dismiss my views. :-)

Rather than try to hide behind the equivalents of saying "people who wear
white coats and have diplomas on the wall all say the same" I'd have
thought it more convincing of you could have actually defended what you
said in terms of relevant evidence.

BTW I also have published many books and articles, have degrees, and have
been on the radio. Yet for some reason I don't think you have accepted all
the things I've written here in the past on electronics and audio. ;-

Above said, I would not have described what you wrote as "twaddle". The
phrase that sprang to my mind included the terms "jargon" and "waffle"...
This isn't my argument, though, so I'll leave you to David. 8-]

Slainte,

Jim

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BTW I also have published many books and articles, have degrees, and have
been on the radio.

Hello Jim,

I'm well aware of this and I respect and support your contribution to
learning.

I have no dispute with you. But when someone descends to ad hominem
comments like "you certainly do seem to have a knack for talking total
bull****" it seems only fair to point out that the object of his idle
assaults also has the knack of selling thousands of books and being
regularly listened to around the world (I also broadcast on the World
Service). Maybe David could tell us a little about his own
contribution to culture? He seems to enjoy petty personal attacks on
minor newsgroups but maybe he could provide a more substantial example
of the value of his contributions to human achievement?

andy