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Old July 22nd 10, 06:19 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G[_2_]
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Default Same old faces, same old faeces.....


New blood, new topics still urgently wanted....



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Old July 22nd 10, 06:47 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
David[_3_]
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Default Echo - was: Same old faces, same old faeces.....

In article ,
Keith G wrote:

New blood, new topics still urgently wanted....


Don't know whether this is an entirely new topic as I've only been
lurking for a few weeks but since getting some half decent headphones,
I've started noticing annoying echoes in various pieces (no, not like
that time I inadvertently had the echo effect on in Audacious when I
listened to the Prelude to Act III of Lohengrin - you should try it ;-)
such as ( a good example)

http://www.raaga.com/player4/?id=776...10868666248922

which has a faint annoying echo in the right headphone.

I assume this is an actual echo from some surface in the recording
studio. At first I thought it might be a headphone problem but I could
just discern the echo in my old cheapo computer headphones, though not
on my cheap computer speakers.

Anyway, I'd be interested to read what all you erudite audiophiles have
to say about it - and please don't tell me it is my headphones after
all!

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Om Namah Shivaya | Om Saha-srapadave namaha

David - toro-danyo atcost uku fullstop co fullstop uk
http://www.toro-danyo.uku.co.uk/
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Old July 22nd 10, 07:07 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Don Pearce[_3_]
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Default Echo - was: Same old faces, same old faeces.....

On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:47:05 +0100, David
wrote:

In article ,
Keith G wrote:

New blood, new topics still urgently wanted....


Don't know whether this is an entirely new topic as I've only been
lurking for a few weeks but since getting some half decent headphones,
I've started noticing annoying echoes in various pieces (no, not like
that time I inadvertently had the echo effect on in Audacious when I
listened to the Prelude to Act III of Lohengrin - you should try it ;-)
such as ( a good example)

http://www.raaga.com/player4/?id=776...10868666248922

which has a faint annoying echo in the right headphone.

I assume this is an actual echo from some surface in the recording
studio. At first I thought it might be a headphone problem but I could
just discern the echo in my old cheapo computer headphones, though not
on my cheap computer speakers.

Anyway, I'd be interested to read what all you erudite audiophiles have
to say about it - and please don't tell me it is my headphones after
all!


It is there. It was put there during the recording. You are listening
to a product of the Indian recording industry which has the same
approach to quality as Bollywood does in its film production.
Basically, you are listening to a piece of crap.

d
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Old July 22nd 10, 09:44 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G[_2_]
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Default Echo - was: Same old faces, same old faeces.....


"David" wrote in message
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In article ,
Keith G wrote:

New blood, new topics still urgently wanted....


Don't know whether this is an entirely new topic as I've only been
lurking for a few weeks



Nice to hear from you but there are a lot of Davids here - you need an
'identifier'!


Anyway, I'd be interested to read what all you erudite audiophiles have
to say about it - and please don't tell me it is my headphones after
all!



No, like Don says, it's ironed in the track unless my cheap (but good)
Sennheiser HD202s have suddenly gone West also!

You either live with it (the singer is very good) or you get another version
without the interference - preferably without that guy banging that sodding
bell, he wears out his welcome a bit quick!


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Old July 23rd 10, 10:36 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
David[_3_]
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Default Echo - was: Same old faces, same old faeces.....

In article , Keith G
wrote:

"David" wrote in message
...
In article , Keith G
wrote:

New blood, new topics still urgently wanted....


Don't know whether this is an entirely new topic as I've only been
lurking for a few weeks



Nice to hear from you but there are a lot of Davids here - you need
an 'identifier'!


Davids are generic, aren't they?


Anyway, I'd be interested to read what all you erudite audiophiles
have to say about it - and please don't tell me it is my headphones
after all!



No, like Don says, it's ironed in the track unless my cheap (but
good) Sennheiser HD202s have suddenly gone West also!


You either live with it (the singer is very good) or you get another
version without the interference - preferably without that guy
banging that sodding bell, he wears out his welcome a bit quick!


:-)

I had hoped to read some erudite words on the difficulties of getting
rid of such things as echoes in recordings. I did wonder if in fact it
was the sound of the bell reverberating to the voice. I do know that
certain sounds emanating from my radio speakers will cause
reverberation of some items in the living room.

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David - toro-danyo atcost uku fullstop co fullstop uk
http://www.toro-danyo.uku.co.uk/
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Old July 23rd 10, 10:52 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G[_2_]
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Default Echo - was: Same old faces, same old faeces.....


"David" wrote in message
...
In article , Keith G
wrote:

"David" wrote in message
...
In article , Keith G
wrote:

New blood, new topics still urgently wanted....

Don't know whether this is an entirely new topic as I've only been
lurking for a few weeks



Nice to hear from you but there are a lot of Davids here - you need
an 'identifier'!


Davids are generic, aren't they?




Call me Dave, eh? :-)


snip


I had hoped to read some erudite words on the difficulties of getting
rid of such things as echoes in recordings. I did wonder if in fact it
was the sound of the bell reverberating to the voice. I do know that
certain sounds emanating from my radio speakers will cause
reverberation of some items in the living room.



I'm sure if that track's gettable someoneone here would be able to faff it
out in some way; I'd just move on, fit were me...



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Old July 23rd 10, 02:05 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Don Pearce[_3_]
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Default Echo - was: Same old faces, same old faeces.....

On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:36:04 +0100, David
wrote:

I had hoped to read some erudite words on the difficulties of getting
rid of such things as echoes in recordings. I did wonder if in fact it
was the sound of the bell reverberating to the voice. I do know that
certain sounds emanating from my radio speakers will cause
reverberation of some items in the living room.


No, just poor effects, applied with a sledge hammer. You need to look
to some other source and genre if you want anything like quality.

d
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Old July 22nd 10, 10:14 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman (News)
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Default Same old faces, same old faeces.....

In article ,
Keith G wrote:

New blood, new topics still urgently wanted....


Yup. Just after your return here you posted:-

'To me, 'high definition' audio is a good record played with a good needle
on good kit (preferably vinyl, triodes and Lowthers)'

Exactly the same narrow view you've been posting here for years. It could
well have been written 50 years ago.

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Old July 23rd 10, 09:20 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G[_2_]
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Default Same old faces, same old faeces.....


"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Keith G wrote:

New blood, new topics still urgently wanted....


Yup. Just after your return here you posted:-

'To me, 'high definition' audio is a good record played with a good needle
on good kit (preferably vinyl, triodes and Lowthers)'

Exactly the same narrow view you've been posting here for years.




Narrow view? You object to my (highly consistent, it would appear) expressed
preference? :-)

Prompts this for a bit of fun - how narrow is this list of audiovisual kit
in regular use here, starting from the 'left':

Optoma PJ
Acer Revo computer
Samsung BDP
Technics FM tuner
Denon SS amplifier
Grundig USB PVR
Sanyo telly
Technics DD turntable
Homebrew Fidelio speakers
Homebrew Buschhorn Mk II speakers
Yamaha sub
Lenco turntable
Homebrew SET amp
WAD kit phono stage
WAD Kit88 PP amplifier
Technics DD turntable (again)
Homebrew Cyburg's Needles speakers
Acer L100 computer
Acoustic Solutions DAB tuner (playing right now)
Denon SS amp
Acer Revo computer
Homebuilt X-QPack computer
Assorted USB hard disks
Ruark speakers
Tannoy speakers
Tannoy centre speaker
Sony telly
Topfield PVR
Strange little PVR with no name (hangs from the scart socket)
Optoma PJ (again)
Western Digital TV media player
Sony BDP
Sony AV amplifier
Samsung netbook

Eh?


well have been written 50 years ago.



What is better now than it was 50 years ago?

(Dunno about you, but when I see a 'new and improved' label, I usually run
the other way..!! ;-)



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Old July 23rd 10, 10:22 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Just Another Lurker
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Default Same old faces, same old faeces.....

On 23/07/2010 10:20, Keith G wrote:

Prompts this for a bit of fun - how narrow is this list of audiovisual
kit in regular use here, starting from the 'left':

Optoma PJ
Acer Revo computer
Samsung BDP
Technics FM tuner
Denon SS amplifier
Grundig USB PVR
Sanyo telly
Technics DD turntable
Homebrew Fidelio speakers
Homebrew Buschhorn Mk II speakers
Yamaha sub
Lenco turntable
Homebrew SET amp
WAD kit phono stage
WAD Kit88 PP amplifier
Technics DD turntable (again)
Homebrew Cyburg's Needles speakers
Acer L100 computer
Acoustic Solutions DAB tuner (playing right now)
Denon SS amp
Acer Revo computer
Homebuilt X-QPack computer
Assorted USB hard disks
Ruark speakers
Tannoy speakers
Tannoy centre speaker
Sony telly
Topfield PVR
Strange little PVR with no name (hangs from the scart socket)
Optoma PJ (again)
Western Digital TV media player
Sony BDP
Sony AV amplifier
Samsung netbook

Eh?



plume de ma tante, matey!! have you considered taking a Saturday
morning pitch down at Peckham Market? ;-)


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