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Old July 26th 10, 02:29 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Jim Lesurf[_2_]
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This is just to let people know that I've now put up a webpage describing
the design of the simple headphone DAC I've been experimenting with during
the last few weeks. The page is at

http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/HFN/Headp...C/HeadDAC.html

The aim was to produce something inexpensive and easy to build so that
anyone willing to use a soldering iron and drill some holes in a metal box
could make one if they wished. :-)

It doesn't use any fancy items made of unobtainium, etc. I deliberately
bought all the bits from CPC so they'd be easy to source. But if anyone
wanted, it might make a nice basis for experiments and no doubt could be
'improved' or tweaked in all kinds of ways. That said, the unit described
works nicely here and I'm enjoying listening using it.

Slainte,

Jim

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Old July 26th 10, 07:29 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Fleetie
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Good post, and good linked content. It's nice to see some "proper" hi-fi audio content
posted here.


Martin
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Old July 26th 10, 08:31 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Arny Krueger
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"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message

This is just to let people know that I've now put up a
webpage describing the design of the simple headphone DAC
I've been experimenting with during the last few weeks.
The page is at

http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/HFN/Headp...C/HeadDAC.html

The aim was to produce something inexpensive and easy to
build so that anyone willing to use a soldering iron and
drill some holes in a metal box could make one if they
wished. :-)

It doesn't use any fancy items made of unobtainium, etc.
I deliberately bought all the bits from CPC so they'd be
easy to source. But if anyone wanted, it might make a
nice basis for experiments and no doubt could be
'improved' or tweaked in all kinds of ways. That said,
the unit described works nicely here and I'm enjoying
listening using it.


The big missing piece in this project is the measured performance. There's
some reason to believe that the transformer, which is rated at -7 dBU @ 50
might be pushed to over load in some applications.


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Old July 27th 10, 04:04 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Fed Up Lurker[_3_]
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"Arny Krueger" Jumped in head first and wrote in message
...
"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message

This is just to let people know that I've now put up a
webpage describing the design of the simple headphone DAC
I've been experimenting with during the last few weeks.
The page is at

http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/HFN/Headp...C/HeadDAC.html

The aim was to produce something inexpensive and easy to
build so that anyone willing to use a soldering iron and
drill some holes in a metal box could make one if they
wished. :-)

It doesn't use any fancy items made of unobtainium, etc.
I deliberately bought all the bits from CPC so they'd be
easy to source. But if anyone wanted, it might make a
nice basis for experiments and no doubt could be
'improved' or tweaked in all kinds of ways. That said,
the unit described works nicely here and I'm enjoying
listening using it.


The big missing piece in this project is the measured performance. There's
some reason to believe that the transformer, which is rated at -7 dBU @
50 might be pushed to over load in some applications.


And Jim covered that in his online article.






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Old July 27th 10, 11:09 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Arny Krueger
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"Fed Up Lurker" wrote in
message
"Arny Krueger" Jumped in head first
and wrote in message
...
"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message

This is just to let people know that I've now put up a
webpage describing the design of the simple headphone
DAC I've been experimenting with during the last few
weeks. The page is at

http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/HFN/Headp...C/HeadDAC.html

The aim was to produce something inexpensive and easy to
build so that anyone willing to use a soldering iron and
drill some holes in a metal box could make one if they
wished. :-)

It doesn't use any fancy items made of unobtainium, etc.
I deliberately bought all the bits from CPC so they'd be
easy to source. But if anyone wanted, it might make a
nice basis for experiments and no doubt could be
'improved' or tweaked in all kinds of ways. That said,
the unit described works nicely here and I'm enjoying
listening using it.


The big missing piece in this project is the measured
performance. There's some reason to believe that the
transformer, which is rated at -7 dBU @ 50 might be
pushed to over load in some applications.


And Jim covered that in his online article.


Experienced workers know that just saying something is so doesn't make it
so.



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Old July 27th 10, 08:06 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Jim Lesurf[_2_]
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In article , Arny
Krueger
wrote:


The big missing piece in this project is the measured performance.
There's some reason to believe that the transformer, which is rated at
-7 dBU @ 50 might be pushed to over load in some applications.


I think I said in the report that the response was flat with -1dB points at
about 20Hz, 20kHz, and that the distortion level was below 0.01 percent for
0dBFS. Also pointed out that the transformers will distort the signal if
you use too high a load (i.e. above a few hundred Ohms), but no problem
with typical headphones. Is there something else you'd be interested in
seeing added? It is just for headphone use, of course.

Slainte,

Jim

--
Please use the address on the audiomisc page if you wish to email me.
Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm
Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html
Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html

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Old July 27th 10, 09:36 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Fed Up Lurker[_3_]
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"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
...
In article , Arny
Krueger
wrote:


The big missing piece in this project is the measured performance.
There's some reason to believe that the transformer, which is rated at
-7 dBU @ 50 might be pushed to over load in some applications.


I think I said in the report that the response was flat with -1dB points
at
about 20Hz, 20kHz, and that the distortion level was below 0.01 percent
for
0dBFS. Also pointed out that the transformers will distort the signal if
you use too high a load (i.e. above a few hundred Ohms), but no problem
with typical headphones. Is there something else you'd be interested in
seeing added? It is just for headphone use, of course.

Slainte,

Jim


Take it easy Jim, It's what Arny does.
Under my various guises over the years (that will bait Keef)
I would occasionally lob in a "I was just about to say that".
Just to gee up old Arny as thats what he does.
You know his style, " I assumed you knew I meant that without
me having to say it" sort of thing Arny does when pulled up.
He does it all the time, as a thread evolves and the details unfold
he will pick out the relevent points and envelope them back into
the melee to give the impression he can keep up with the neighbours.
Your project and article are just fine Jim, and evolving nicely.

This TDA1541 machine that is itching for you to NONOS it and
write a groundbreaking report, I've been thinking of strapping
it to the back of PMi's motorcycle and get him to run it up and
across the border to you?




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Old July 27th 10, 10:51 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Eiron
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On 27/07/2010 10:36, Fed Up Lurker wrote:

This TDA1541 machine that is itching for you to NONOS it and


Maybe you could explain what you mean by NONOS for those of us
who haven't kept up with these things.

--
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Old July 27th 10, 11:17 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Arny Krueger
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"Eiron" wrote in message

On 27/07/2010 10:36, Fed Up Lurker wrote:

This TDA1541 machine that is itching for you to NONOS it
and


Maybe you could explain what you mean by NONOS for those
of us who haven't kept up with these things.


NOS usually means New Old Stock. Maybe people should read the added "NO" as
"no, don't waste your time with it.

Building new gear out of obsolete parts from a fast-moving technology like
DAC is something that people with way too much time on their hands seem to
want to obsess over.


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Old July 27th 10, 06:00 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Fed Up Lurker[_3_]
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Default DIY Headphone DAC


"Eiron" wrote in message
...
On 27/07/2010 10:36, Fed Up Lurker wrote:

This TDA1541 machine that is itching for you to NONOS it and


Maybe you could explain what you mean by NONOS for those of us
who haven't kept up with these things.

--
Eiron.


It's on a "need to know" basis.
But Jim will be doing a full and revealing article on the subject for
HFN+RR,
thats right innit Jim....


 




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