In article , Dave Plowman (News)
scribeth thus
In article ,
tony sayer wrote:
If thats all you need and the claimed perfick DAB reception isn't up to
it then why bother with DAB?. If you follow most any DAB forum apart
from poor audio quality, OK not that much of a problem for a bathroom
radio, the biggest gripe is power consumption and hence battery life!..

R3 uses a higher data rate than any other and is likely to sound just
fine. As will R4 being mainly speech.
I also wonder just how many would notice the other stations low data rate
on a portable. My guess is very, very few. Especially in a blind test. ;-)


Thats about all its good for portable listening, provided you've got the
battery belt to go with it;!...
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Tony Sayer

You can quite plainly hear the gritty digital sound on mono stations like
talk sport and lbc, the medium wave relay, not so much the fm relay on dab.

Also, some of the mono stations which carry music are sounding decidedly
naff. bbc 7 is still in mono it appears and increasingly so is r4. These
obviously prove the fact that bandwidth is a problem. they obviously did
not take heed of that universal law about junk expanding to fill any vacant
space. Its as true with data and bandwidth, unfortunately.

Brian

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"tony sayer" wrote in message
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In article , Dave Plowman (News)
scribeth thus
In article ,
tony sayer wrote:
If thats all you need and the claimed perfick DAB reception isn't up to
it then why bother with DAB?. If you follow most any DAB forum apart
from poor audio quality, OK not that much of a problem for a bathroom
radio, the biggest gripe is power consumption and hence battery life!..

R3 uses a higher data rate than any other and is likely to sound just
fine. As will R4 being mainly speech.
I also wonder just how many would notice the other stations low data rate
on a portable. My guess is very, very few. Especially in a blind test. ;-)


Thats about all its good for portable listening, provided you've got the
battery belt to go with it;!...
--
Tony Sayer

In article , Brian Gaff
wrote:
You can quite plainly hear the gritty digital sound on mono stations
like talk sport and lbc, the medium wave relay, not so much the fm
relay on dab.

Also, some of the mono stations which carry music are sounding
decidedly naff. bbc 7 is still in mono it appears and increasingly so
is r4. These obviously prove the fact that bandwidth is a problem.
they obviously did not take heed of that universal law about junk
expanding to fill any vacant space. Its as true with data and
bandwidth, unfortunately.

Perhaps a confusion between *data* 'bandwidth' and *frequency* 'bandwidth'
lead to some mistaken deductions at an earlier point... Shame that when
'digital' met 'audio' many terms - e.g. 'bandwidth' and 'compression' -
that had quite different meanings came together.

Slainte,

Jim

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"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
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In article , Brian Gaff
wrote:
You can quite plainly hear the gritty digital sound on mono stations
like talk sport and lbc, the medium wave relay, not so much the fm
relay on dab.

Also, some of the mono stations which carry music are sounding
decidedly naff. bbc 7 is still in mono it appears and increasingly so
is r4. These obviously prove the fact that bandwidth is a problem.
they obviously did not take heed of that universal law about junk
expanding to fill any vacant space. Its as true with data and
bandwidth, unfortunately.

Perhaps a confusion between *data* 'bandwidth' and *frequency* 'bandwidth'
lead to some mistaken deductions at an earlier point... Shame that when
'digital' met 'audio' many terms - e.g. 'bandwidth' and 'compression' -
that had quite different meanings came together.


Indeed! Even though it was in context of 3 minute pop songs etc,
you Jim (and the clique) leapt right on me!
I've only just read through this thread, the poor blighter was only
asking about a DAB for the bathroom, thank goodness he didn't ask
about a shoe box for the garden........

To the poor sod who asked the original question:
http://www.naturallygreen.co.uk/free...dio-p-322.html
It's wind-up so perfect for the bathroom, but also solar powered so
ideal for the garden too! Approx five quid on ebay.
The thread will now erupt along another fragmented path, good luck....

In article , Fed Up Lurker
wrote:

"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
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Perhaps a confusion between *data* 'bandwidth' and *frequency*
'bandwidth' lead to some mistaken deductions at an earlier point...
Shame that when 'digital' met 'audio' many terms - e.g. 'bandwidth'
and 'compression' - that had quite different meanings came together.


Indeed! Even though it was in context of 3 minute pop songs etc, you Jim
(and the clique) leapt right on me!

Eh? Hadn't noticed you posting previously in this thread.

I've only just read through this thread, the poor blighter was only
asking about a DAB for the bathroom,

Yes. but I think people had already given views on that, and threads do
drift and thow up byways. Bit like one on headphones then having discussion
on other issues. :-)

Slainte,

Jim

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