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On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 12:18:26 +0100, Jim Lesurf wrote:

Did you listen to any of the Proms via the XHQ 320k stream?

I'm curious to know if anyone else heard 'gaps' at times - particularly
if they occured at the same times I heard them. Not yet clear to me why
they occurred.

The two Proms concerts I listened to on the 'high quality' had no audible
glitches.

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In article , Ian Jackson
wrote:
In message , Jim Lesurf
writes
In article , Eiron
wrote:
On 19/10/2010 10:09, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In , Jim
wrote:
Not sure if I am previous in mentioning this. But IIUC the BBC are
now announcing that they plan to make the XHQ 320kb/s stream
permanently available as 'HD Radio' for Radio 3 listeners to the
iPlayer.


In this context, what does 'HD' stand for?

I think the BBC are going to call the new 320k stream(s) "HD Radio" to
distinguish them from the established 192k/128k AAC streams. (Which I think
will continue.) Presumably to avoid confusing non-'technical' listeners
with numbers like "320kb/sec". :-)

So just a name people can use. It was sometimes called 'XHQ' or 'XHX' [1]
during the tests. But I suppose 'HD Radio' makes more sense as a way of
describing this in the context of HD TV also being tested and rolled out.

Reminds me of seeing a Peanuts cartoon from decades ago that referred to a
"HiFi skip(ping) rope" to lampoon the way 'HiFi' was picked up as a buzz
phrase when HiFi started to become known to people. ...and a few weeks ago
I saw an advert for a carpet that was said to be an 'HD carpet' to try and
tell us the pattern was very detailed. ;-

Slainte,

Jim

[1] eXtra High Quality or eXtra High-quality eXperiment, I presume.

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On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 12:18:26 +0100, Jim Lesurf
wrote:

In article , Eiron
wrote:
On 19/10/2010 10:09, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In , Jim
wrote:
Not sure if I am previous in mentioning this. But IIUC the BBC are
now announcing that they plan to make the XHQ 320kb/s stream
permanently available as 'HD Radio' for Radio 3 listeners to the
iPlayer.

The BBC spokesman on R4 PM yesterday said it involved a complete new
route from source to listener. I find this very hard to believe. They
played a clip on PM in 'normal and HD' which Eddie Mair said was like
night and day. ;-) I was in the workshop - so only listening casually,
albeit on a reasonable system fed from FreeView, and did think the HD
clip had better ambience. But perhaps just the power of suggestion...

It sounded good on the FM radio in the car while driving home. :-)

Did you listen to any of the Proms via the XHQ 320k stream?

I'm curious to know if anyone else heard 'gaps' at times - particularly if
they occured at the same times I heard them. Not yet clear to me why they
occurred.


Can't remember if you said at the time, but were the gaps pauses,
picking up again where you left off - or were they actually missing
bits?

d

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In article , Don Pearce
wrote:
On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 12:18:26 +0100, Jim Lesurf
wrote:


I'm curious to know if anyone else heard 'gaps' at times - particularly
if they occured at the same times I heard them. Not yet clear to me why
they occurred.

Can't remember if you said at the time, but were the gaps pauses,
picking up again where you left off - or were they actually missing bits?

Good question. :-) They were (mainly) pauses despite it being a live
stream...

Slainte,

Jim

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In article , Chris
Isbell
wrote:
On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 12:18:26 +0100, Jim Lesurf wrote:

Did you listen to any of the Proms via the XHQ 320k stream?

I'm curious to know if anyone else heard 'gaps' at times -
particularly if they occured at the same times I heard them. Not yet
clear to me why they occurred.

The two Proms concerts I listened to on the 'high quality' had no
audible glitches.

Which concerts/pieces?

Slainte,

Jim

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In article , Jim Lesurf
scribeth thus
In article , Eiron
wrote:
On 19/10/2010 10:09, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In , Jim
wrote:
Not sure if I am previous in mentioning this. But IIUC the BBC are
now announcing that they plan to make the XHQ 320kb/s stream
permanently available as 'HD Radio' for Radio 3 listeners to the
iPlayer.

The BBC spokesman on R4 PM yesterday said it involved a complete new
route from source to listener. I find this very hard to believe. They
played a clip on PM in 'normal and HD' which Eddie Mair said was like
night and day. ;-) I was in the workshop - so only listening casually,
albeit on a reasonable system fed from FreeView, and did think the HD
clip had better ambience. But perhaps just the power of suggestion...

It sounded good on the FM radio in the car while driving home. :-)

Did you listen to any of the Proms via the XHQ 320k stream?

I'm curious to know if anyone else heard 'gaps' at times - particularly if
they occured at the same times I heard them. Not yet clear to me why they
occurred.


Yes heard gaps and put that down to net congestion.. Which seems to be
getting worse as time goes on...

Slainte,

Jim


--
Tony Sayer

Radio 3 'XHQ'
 

In article , Jim Lesurf
scribeth thus
In article , Ian Jackson
wrote:
In message , Jim Lesurf
writes
In article , Eiron
wrote:
On 19/10/2010 10:09, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In , Jim
wrote:
Not sure if I am previous in mentioning this. But IIUC the BBC are
now announcing that they plan to make the XHQ 320kb/s stream
permanently available as 'HD Radio' for Radio 3 listeners to the
iPlayer.


In this context, what does 'HD' stand for?

I think the BBC are going to call the new 320k stream(s) "HD Radio" to
distinguish them from the established 192k/128k AAC streams. (Which I think
will continue.) Presumably to avoid confusing non-'technical' listeners
with numbers like "320kb/sec". :-)

So just a name people can use. It was sometimes called 'XHQ' or 'XHX' [1]
during the tests. But I suppose 'HD Radio' makes more sense as a way of
describing this in the context of HD TV also being tested and rolled out.

Reminds me of seeing a Peanuts cartoon from decades ago that referred to a
"HiFi skip(ping) rope" to lampoon the way 'HiFi' was picked up as a buzz
phrase when HiFi started to become known to people. ...and a few weeks ago
I saw an advert for a carpet that was said to be an 'HD carpet' to try and
tell us the pattern was very detailed. ;-



They have HD radio in the USofA except it isn't that hi definition 96 K
AAC IIRC...

--
Tony Sayer

Radio 3 'XHQ'
 

In message , tony sayer
writes
In article , Jim Lesurf
scribeth thus
In article , Ian Jackson
wrote:
In message , Jim Lesurf
writes
In article , Eiron
wrote:
On 19/10/2010 10:09, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In , Jim
wrote:
Not sure if I am previous in mentioning this. But IIUC the BBC are
now announcing that they plan to make the XHQ 320kb/s stream
permanently available as 'HD Radio' for Radio 3 listeners to the
iPlayer.


In this context, what does 'HD' stand for?

I think the BBC are going to call the new 320k stream(s) "HD Radio" to
distinguish them from the established 192k/128k AAC streams. (Which I think
will continue.) Presumably to avoid confusing non-'technical' listeners
with numbers like "320kb/sec". :-)

So just a name people can use. It was sometimes called 'XHQ' or 'XHX' [1]
during the tests. But I suppose 'HD Radio' makes more sense as a way of
describing this in the context of HD TV also being tested and rolled out.

Reminds me of seeing a Peanuts cartoon from decades ago that referred to a
"HiFi skip(ping) rope" to lampoon the way 'HiFi' was picked up as a buzz
phrase when HiFi started to become known to people. ...and a few weeks ago
I saw an advert for a carpet that was said to be an 'HD carpet' to try and
tell us the pattern was very detailed. ;-



They have HD radio in the USofA except it isn't that hi definition 96 K
AAC IIRC...

Yebbut.....
HD is 'Hybrid Digital'. It could sound awful!
--
Ian

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In article , tony sayer

wrote:
In article , Jim Lesurf
scribeth thus

I'm curious to know if anyone else heard 'gaps' at times - particularly
if they occured at the same times I heard them. Not yet clear to me why
they occurred.


Yes heard gaps and put that down to net congestion.. Which seems to be
getting worse as time goes on...

Which concerts? I'm curious to know if we may have heard gaps at the same
times.

Slainte,

Jim

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On 19 Oct, wrote:
In article , Ian Jackson
wrote:
In message , Jim Lesurf

In , Jim
wrote:
Not sure if I am previous in mentioning this. But IIUC the BBC
are now announcing that they plan to make the XHQ 320kb/s stream
permanently available as 'HD Radio' for Radio 3 listeners to the
iPlayer.


In this context, what does 'HD' stand for?

I think the BBC are going to call the new 320k stream(s) "HD Radio"

Correction: I just listened again to what was said on the 'PM' prog (last
part of the programme on Monday R4). The term being used is "HD Sound" not
"HD Radio".

Slainte,

Jim

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