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Keith G[_2_] November 24th 10 11:53 AM

To reverb or not?
 

Something I have been wondering about is adding reverb to recordings.

This:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...octurne%20.wav

is a recent effort of Swimbo on the alto that I rather like but without any
reverb applied. Would anyone consider reverb to be necessary in this
instance? I do rather get the impression that some people consider a little
reverb to be essential on just about everything..??


David Kennedy November 24th 10 12:20 PM

To reverb or not?
 
Keith G wrote:

Something I have been wondering about is adding reverb to recordings.

This:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...octurne%20.wav

is a recent effort of Swimbo on the alto that I rather like but without
any reverb applied. Would anyone consider reverb to be necessary in this
instance? I do rather get the impression that some people consider a
little reverb to be essential on just about everything..??


I like it as is.

It might be interesting though to hear it with / without reverb to
compare the two.

Well, I tried it [via Amadeus] with echo / reverb / ambience and each
has it's own points. A slight reverb/ambience effect does seem to enhance.

--
David Kennedy

http://www.anindianinexile.com

Iain Churches[_2_] November 24th 10 01:46 PM

To reverb or not?
 

"Keith G" wrote in message
...

Something I have been wondering about is adding reverb to recordings.

This:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...octurne%20.wav

is a recent effort of Swimbo on the alto that I rather like but without
any reverb applied. Would anyone consider reverb to be necessary in this
instance? I do rather get the impression that some people consider a
little reverb to be essential on just about everything..??



Purely a matter of taste. For me it's a tad dry, but I much
prefer this to the other extreme.

Regards
Iain




Keith G[_2_] November 24th 10 02:41 PM

To reverb or not?
 

"David Kennedy" wrote in message
o.uk...
Keith G wrote:

Something I have been wondering about is adding reverb to recordings.

This:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...octurne%20.wav

is a recent effort of Swimbo on the alto that I rather like but without
any reverb applied. Would anyone consider reverb to be necessary in this
instance? I do rather get the impression that some people consider a
little reverb to be essential on just about everything..??


I like it as is.

It might be interesting though to hear it with / without reverb to compare
the two.



OK. I added a little reverb called 'Bright Hall' to it and I also like that
(see below). Unfortunately SoudForge is a little kludgy when it comes to
this sort of thing but it seems to remain within the realms of good taste to
me! (?)

Here they both are for a back to back for easy comparison:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...octurne%20.wav

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...ght%20Hall.wav



Well, I tried it [via Amadeus] with echo / reverb / ambience and each has
it's own points. A slight reverb/ambience effect does seem to enhance.



I think a little reverb flatters most music but worry this is injecting a
deliberate distortion into the recording/reproduction chain that we see so
much fuss about when it comes to stuff like the 'effects' of using valve
equipment in a recirding situation....??




Keith G[_2_] November 24th 10 02:46 PM

To reverb or not?
 

"Iain Churches" wrote in message
...

"Keith G" wrote in message
...

Something I have been wondering about is adding reverb to recordings.

This:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...octurne%20.wav

is a recent effort of Swimbo on the alto that I rather like but without
any reverb applied. Would anyone consider reverb to be necessary in this
instance? I do rather get the impression that some people consider a
little reverb to be essential on just about everything..??



Purely a matter of taste. For me it's a tad dry, but I much
prefer this to the other extreme.




Hi Iain, try this one with a little 'Bright Hall' reverb added - I hafta say
I quite like it myself:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...ght%20Hall.wav


But I would want to be in the habit of sloshing it into everything I record
unless I have to, of course - it's only me recording Swim on either the alto
sax or the Bb clart.





David[_4_] November 24th 10 03:17 PM

To reverb or not?
 
"Keith G" wrote in message
...

OK. I added a little reverb called 'Bright Hall' to it and I also like
that (see below). Unfortunately SoudForge is a little kludgy when it comes
to this sort of thing but it seems to remain within the realms of good
taste to me! (?)

Here they both are for a back to back for easy comparison:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...octurne%20.wav

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...ght%20Hall.wav


Total layman here but to me the first sounds like a better recording and the
second sounds like a better musician.
I know you only added a little reverb but I think just a little less would
be good.

D



David Kennedy November 24th 10 03:29 PM

To reverb or not?
 
Keith G wrote:

"David Kennedy" wrote in
message o.uk...
Keith G wrote:

Something I have been wondering about is adding reverb to recordings.

This:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...octurne%20.wav

is a recent effort of Swimbo on the alto that I rather like but without
any reverb applied. Would anyone consider reverb to be necessary in this
instance? I do rather get the impression that some people consider a
little reverb to be essential on just about everything..??


I like it as is.

It might be interesting though to hear it with / without reverb to
compare the two.



OK. I added a little reverb called 'Bright Hall' to it and I also like
that (see below). Unfortunately SoudForge is a little kludgy when it
comes to this sort of thing but it seems to remain within the realms of
good taste to me! (?)

Here they both are for a back to back for easy comparison:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...octurne%20.wav

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...ght%20Hall.wav


That's it. As you say it does work but you do have to be careful not to
over do it.



Well, I tried it [via Amadeus] with echo / reverb / ambience and each
has it's own points. A slight reverb/ambience effect does seem to
enhance.



I think a little reverb flatters most music but worry this is injecting
a deliberate distortion into the recording/reproduction chain that we
see so much fuss about when it comes to stuff like the 'effects' of
using valve equipment in a recirding situation....??


True. But, the reverb [or what ever] effect could be achieved by the
room chosen for the recording...


--
David Kennedy

http://www.anindianinexile.com

David Kennedy November 24th 10 03:31 PM

To reverb or not?
 
David wrote:
"Keith wrote in message
...

OK. I added a little reverb called 'Bright Hall' to it and I also like
that (see below). Unfortunately SoudForge is a little kludgy when it comes
to this sort of thing but it seems to remain within the realms of good
taste to me! (?)

Here they both are for a back to back for easy comparison:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...octurne%20.wav

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...ght%20Hall.wav


Total layman here but to me the first sounds like a better recording and the
second sounds like a better musician.


People have become accustomed to effects of every kind. There is very
little straight recording these days.

I know you only added a little reverb but I think just a little less would
be good.





--
David Kennedy

http://www.anindianinexile.com

Don Pearce[_3_] November 24th 10 03:33 PM

To reverb or not?
 
On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 15:46:13 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Iain Churches" wrote in message
...

"Keith G" wrote in message
...

Something I have been wondering about is adding reverb to recordings.

This:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...octurne%20.wav

is a recent effort of Swimbo on the alto that I rather like but without
any reverb applied. Would anyone consider reverb to be necessary in this
instance? I do rather get the impression that some people consider a
little reverb to be essential on just about everything..??



Purely a matter of taste. For me it's a tad dry, but I much
prefer this to the other extreme.




Hi Iain, try this one with a little 'Bright Hall' reverb added - I hafta say
I quite like it myself:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...ght%20Hall.wav


But I would want to be in the habit of sloshing it into everything I record
unless I have to, of course - it's only me recording Swim on either the alto
sax or the Bb clart.




But all the better if she can just accompany herself.

http://www.soundthoughts.co.uk/listen/accomp.mp3

d

David Kennedy November 24th 10 03:37 PM

To reverb or not?
 
Don Pearce wrote:
On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 15:46:13 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Iain wrote in message
...

"Keith wrote in message
...

Something I have been wondering about is adding reverb to recordings.

This:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...octurne%20.wav

is a recent effort of Swimbo on the alto that I rather like but without
any reverb applied. Would anyone consider reverb to be necessary in this
instance? I do rather get the impression that some people consider a
little reverb to be essential on just about everything..??


Purely a matter of taste. For me it's a tad dry, but I much
prefer this to the other extreme.




Hi Iain, try this one with a little 'Bright Hall' reverb added - I hafta say
I quite like it myself:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...ght%20Hall.wav


But I would want to be in the habit of sloshing it into everything I record
unless I have to, of course - it's only me recording Swim on either the alto
sax or the Bb clart.




But all the better if she can just accompany herself.

http://www.soundthoughts.co.uk/listen/accomp.mp3

d

Yeuch!

Come back Mantovani, all is forgiven...

--
David Kennedy

http://www.anindianinexile.com


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