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Old January 20th 11, 01:34 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Arny Krueger
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Are you seriously suggesting that using a Linn turntable
rather than a Technics one makes any difference at all to
the "dynamics, imaging and tone"?


It is possible, and some potential explanations follow.

The cartridge, and to a
lesser extent the arm will make an audible difference,
but not the turntable.


When people talk about their perceptions of differences in turntable sound
quality, they are generally talking about the entire ensemble - table, arm,
cartridge, often the whole rest of the audio system is different as well.
No way is the comparison time-synched, level-matched and bias-controlled.

Any turntable that goes round at
the right speed, with minimal speed variation (wow) and
rumble, will sound the same as any other.


Plus/minus the other system differences and other issues such as isolation
from environmental vibrations.

I'm probably the only regular poster who has done full-monte comparisons of
LP playback equipment, right down to using LPs that were fresh out of the
wrappers and had the same stamper numbers.

Do it all right and things often sound shockingly similar:

http://home.provide.net/~djcarlst/abx_phca.htm


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Old January 20th 11, 01:37 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
David[_5_]
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Default Technics direct drive turntables

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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I'm probably the only regular poster who has done full-monte comparisons
of LP playback equipment, right down to using LPs that were fresh out of
the wrappers and had the same stamper numbers.

Do it all right and things often sound shockingly similar:


So you admit that they don't sound the same then? Well done!


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Old January 21st 11, 05:09 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Arny Krueger
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Default Technics direct drive turntables


"David" wrote in message
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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I'm probably the only regular poster who has done full-monte comparisons
of LP playback equipment, right down to using LPs that were fresh out of
the wrappers and had the same stamper numbers.

Do it all right and things often sound shockingly similar:


So you admit that they don't sound the same then? Well done!


Check the reference I provided.


http://home.provide.net/~djcarlst/abx_phca.htm



Not always, but they sometimes do.


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Old January 20th 11, 02:43 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G[_2_]
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Default Technics direct drive turntables


"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"David Looser" wrote in
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Are you seriously suggesting that using a Linn turntable
rather than a Technics one makes any difference at all to
the "dynamics, imaging and tone"?


It is possible, and some potential explanations follow.

The cartridge, and to a
lesser extent the arm will make an audible difference,
but not the turntable.


When people talk about their perceptions of differences in turntable sound
quality, they are generally talking about the entire ensemble - table,
arm, cartridge, often the whole rest of the audio system is different as
well. No way is the comparison time-synched, level-matched and
bias-controlled.



Absolutely. Creating those 'identical' conditions is beyond most ordinary
'hifi enthusiasts' in their own home.

My own method is/was to compare similar items over a few of some weeks or
months, during which time other items in the replay chain might have been
changed anyway. I simply chose the one I *liked best* as the winner, when
making comparisons. (Not interested in *measurements*!)



Any turntable that goes round at
the right speed, with minimal speed variation (wow) and
rumble, will sound the same as any other.


Plus/minus the other system differences and other issues such as isolation
from environmental vibrations.

I'm probably the only regular poster who has done full-monte comparisons
of LP playback equipment, right down to using LPs that were fresh out of
the wrappers and had the same stamper numbers.

Do it all right and things often sound shockingly similar:

http://home.provide.net/~djcarlst/abx_phca.htm



See above....


 




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