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Old February 1st 11, 06:35 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
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"Keith G" wrote in message
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'Bookkeeper(s) is one word - the only one in the Eng. Lang. which features
three consecutive sets of double letters!


Good Scrabble score then?

(Notta lotta peeple know dat! ;-)


If in doubt, I tend to hyphenate!

While we doing our Sir Michael Caine impressions,
Finnish is said to have the longest palindrome of
a single word in any modern language:

saippuakauppias (soap vendor)

Iain





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Old February 1st 11, 06:41 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Iain Churches" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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What one sees above Iain is more proof of your ignorance
about the normal scale of doing things in the US.


Why should that be of the slightest interest to me?
This is a) a UK group, and b) I live in Scandinavia,
where N.America and N.American values are held in low
esteem.


Iain, your willful ignorance of actual conditions in the US *proves* that
your low opinion of the US is based on your arrogance, prejudice and
ignorance, which seem to abound.


Arny. You would need to live outside the US in say
Scandinavia for a number of years to see America as
others see it.

It is probably a difference in priorities. Here they put high
value on education, social infrastructure, integration,
work ethic, health and culture.

So it isperplexing to see the American fixation in preserving
the military capability, at any cost, to (as you yourself Arny
put it on RAO) "bomb the rag-heads back into the Stone
Age any time we choose" That seemed a strange thing for
you, as a a love-thy-neighbour Christian, to say.

America doesn't seem very interested in general health
care, and education.

People here, most of whom speak two or three languages
with very good English, find it hard to belive that Detroit,
the city where you live Arny, has an illiteracy level of 47%
Nearly half the population of your city cannot read and
write in their ow language!! Don't you think that's a
disgraceful state of affairs in a country like the USA?

http://www.detroitliteracy.org/faq.htm

The leve of illiteracy in Scandinavia (and keep in mind
that the languages.particularly Danish and Finnish are far
more difficult than English) is 0.5%

http://www.indexmundi.com/norway/literacy.html
http://www.indexmundi.com/sweden/literacy.html
http://www.indexmundi.com/denmark/literacy.html

http://www.indexmundi.com/finland/literacy.html


We observe your political circus, and your constant
need to interfere in the internal politics of other nations.
Maybe the Chinese snub "to mind your own damn
business" will have a positive effect.

Iain

PS I must admit that we envy you Berklee:-)




















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Old February 1st 11, 06:43 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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Despite being a niche market, the public have accepted
the considerable rise in the cost of an LP as the
improvement in quality both in the pressing and
presentation is there for all too see/hear.


Except there was never any such improvement. Elegant folios and high
quality pressings are not innovations of the declining days of the LP.
They were available in the days when LPs were all we had.



Presumably by "folios" you mean gatefold sleeves.
These, together with 180gr pressings were not very
common back then. But the most significant change
is the pressing of fewer copies from one stamper, at a
far slower pressing cycle, the discontinance of the use
of recycled material and vastly improved QC. In addition
LPs are supplied in dustproof anti-staic liners. Attention
to these five points have had a remarkable effect on quality.
People who listen to vinyl these days do so on equipment
far better than was generally in use in the 70s and are
willing to accept a price level that enable manufacturers
to produce a high quality product for which there is
an adequate demand.


It was widely thought that an increase in price might kill off
existing sales. This has proved not to be the case.


When LP sales dropped by 99% or *more* as they have for the LP, most sane
people would say that the sales were "killed off". They were not killed
off to the point of complete and total extinction, but they were
effectively killed off.


Make up your mind:-) Either they are killed off or they are not!

With at least one plant in each of the major EU countries,
and the Hayes UK factory turning out a healthy 1 000 000
pressings a year, the last time I read their annual report,
this niche market seems to be managing quite well.

Iain






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Old February 1st 11, 06:54 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"David Looser" wrote in
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"Iain Churches" wrote


Would it not be more valuable to you to get up out
of that comfy armchair and do your own tests, and
reach your own conclusions?


It would seem that these would be good things for Iain to do, were he
technically able to do such things.

Iain claims to have a superior or at least representitive collection of
fine LP playback equipment at his disposal. He also claims to be able to
engage the services of comptent technical staff.



The fact that Iain is not rising to the occasion casts doubts on his
numerous claims relating to equipment and staff.



I am amused Arny, by the way you are taken in by
all that fairy-tale religious mumbo-jumbo with which
the Baptists force-feed you and yet you doubt things
which you could easily verify for yourself.

Come and pay us a visit!

I have about a dozen people in my immediate
professional circle who have heard your dreadful
recording of Domine. I know they would be
fascinated to meet the perpetrator of this
transgression.

One of my colleagues, whom you insulted most
rudely on RAO would be particularly interested
to make your personal acquaintance.

You can even apologise personally to the young
lady cello student, now a professional orchestral
player, who burst into tears when she heard your
"choir" recording. She thought it was some cruel
sacreligous hoax for the "666" label

Looking forward to welcoming you.

Iain














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Old February 1st 11, 03:36 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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"Iain Churches" wrote in message
...

"Keith G" wrote in message
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'Bookkeeper(s) is one word - the only one in the Eng. Lang. which
features
three consecutive sets of double letters!


Good Scrabble score then?

(Notta lotta peeple know dat! ;-)


If in doubt, I tend to hyphenate!



I tend to hyperventilate - almost the same! :-)



While we doing our Sir Michael Caine impressions,
Finnish is said to have the longest palindrome of
a single word in any modern language:

saippuakauppias (soap vendor)



Yep, that's a good 'un!



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Old February 2nd 11, 09:30 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
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"MiNe 109" wrote in message
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The labels also didn't like
independent pressing plant operators for a variety of reasons: dodgy
business practices ("breakage" quotas), etc.


I can't recall ever hearing the term "breakage quota" (ever tried to
break an LP ? :-) In the UK, "rejects" (usually due to misaligned
stampers) were at a low set percentage. Any press man worth his
salt could set the stamper with accuracy, and stopped the press at
regular intervals to check the geometry.

There was talk of independent factories "selling from the back door"
but this was quickly corrected by the insistance that "run ups" (that
should have been recycled) were pressed with blank white labels,
and by keeping tight control on the number of labels and sleeves
supplied to the plant.

In the UK, independent plants turned out a high
quality product.


Cheers
Iain







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Old February 2nd 11, 12:23 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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"Iain Churches" wrote:

"MiNe 109" wrote in message
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The labels also didn't like
independent pressing plant operators for a variety of reasons: dodgy
business practices ("breakage" quotas), etc.


I can't recall ever hearing the term "breakage quota" (ever tried to
break an LP ? :-) In the UK, "rejects" (usually due to misaligned
stampers) were at a low set percentage. Any press man worth his
salt could set the stamper with accuracy, and stopped the press at
regular intervals to check the geometry.

There was talk of independent factories "selling from the back door"
but this was quickly corrected by the insistance that "run ups" (that
should have been recycled) were pressed with blank white labels,
and by keeping tight control on the number of labels and sleeves
supplied to the plant.

In the UK, independent plants turned out a high
quality product.


The "breakage" was contractual! Artists were paid for 90% of units
pressed assuming 10% loss. Whether those "broken" lps went out the back
door benefitting the pressing plant or the front door benefitting the
record label I'm not sure.

Stephen
  #218 (permalink)  
Old February 4th 11, 08:13 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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"Iain Churches" wrote in message


Arny. You would need to live outside the US in say
Scandinavia for a number of years to see America as
others see it.


Why would I want to see what people who have never lived here think they see
because that's what they feel they need to see?

It is probably a difference in priorities. Here they put
high value on education, social infrastructure,
integration, work ethic, health and culture.


If you would put on your thinking cap Iain, you'd realize that there are
probably at least two people in the US who feel that way for every person in
Scandinavia who feel that way. There are only about 25 million
Scandinavians, and about 300 million Americans. If only 30% of the
population of the US put a high value on education, social infrastructure,
integration, work ethic, health and culture then there would be almost 4
Americans who agree with those ideals for every living Scandinavian.

Your problem Iain is that you seem to think that a country as large and
diverse as The United States of America is just as homogeneous as these tiny
little hidebound (still have monarchies!) Scandinavian countries, In fact
almost all the smart Scandinavians emigrated to the US long ago, where they
and their descendents number about 12 million.

So it is preplexing to see the American fixation in
preserving the military capability, at any cost


If you were well-informed Iain, you'd realize that we aren't preserving our
military but cutting it back, and we surely aren't preserving it at any cost
since military expenditures are only about 5% of our GDP and about 20% of
our federal budget. Of course our military expenditures appear large to
people who live in countries that are smaller than most of our states.

to (as
you yourself Arny put it on RAO) "bomb the rag-heads back
into the Stone Age any time we choose" That seemed a strange thing for
you, as a a love-thy-neighbor Christian, to say.


I just searched Google to see if I could correct your misattribution, Iain.
I can't find that text posted by *anybody* on RAO.

Long story short, please provide a link to that post, or provide the time
and date, or cease and desist gratuitously libeling me.


America doesn't seem very interested in general health
care, and education.


From more than a thousand miles away, perhaps. Your problem Iain is that
your provincial mind thinks of America of being just one people, just one
place, just one set of aspirations.

About half of the people in my particular community have attended college.


People here, most of whom speak two or three languages
with very good English, find it hard to believe that
Detroit, the city where you live Arny, has an illiteracy
level of 47% Nearly half the population of your city
cannot read and write in their own language!!


Detroit is not my city. It's a city that shares a border with my city, which
is Grosse Pointe Woods. About half of the people in my city have attended
college, so their literacy is not in doubt.

Illiteracy is unfortunately characteristic of that particular group of
people. It takes a very small mind to try to characterize a country of 300
million people as being the same as an unfortunate, less than one million of
them who live in a particular place, not that far from where I live. Your
contant re-iteration of this unfortunately fact makes you look very
mean-spirited Iain, which of course is your true nature.



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Old February 6th 11, 03:04 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Iain Churches" wrote in message


Arny. You would need to live outside the US in say
Scandinavia for a number of years to see America as
others see it.


Why would I want to see what people who have never lived here think they see
because that's what they feel they need to see?

It is probably a difference in priorities. Here they put
high value on education, social infrastructure,
integration, work ethic, health and culture.


If you would put on your thinking cap Iain, you'd realize that there are
probably at least two people in the US who feel that way for every person in
Scandinavia who feel that way. There are only about 25 million
Scandinavians, and about 300 million Americans. If only 30% of the
population of the US put a high value on education, social infrastructure,
integration, work ethic, health and culture then there would be almost 4
Americans who agree with those ideals for every living Scandinavian.

Your problem Iain is that you seem to think that a country as large and
diverse as The United States of America is just as homogeneous as these tiny
little hidebound (still have monarchies!) Scandinavian countries, In fact
almost all the smart Scandinavians emigrated to the US long ago, where they
and their descendents number about 12 million.

So it is preplexing to see the American fixation in
preserving the military capability, at any cost


If you were well-informed Iain, you'd realize that we aren't preserving our
military but cutting it back, and we surely aren't preserving it at any cost
since military expenditures are only about 5% of our GDP and about 20% of
our federal budget. Of course our military expenditures appear large to
people who live in countries that are smaller than most of our states.

to (as
you yourself Arny put it on RAO) "bomb the rag-heads back
into the Stone Age any time we choose" That seemed a strange thing for
you, as a a love-thy-neighbor Christian, to say.


I just searched Google to see if I could correct your misattribution, Iain.
I can't find that text posted by *anybody* on RAO.

Long story short, please provide a link to that post, or provide the time
and date, or cease and desist gratuitously libeling me.


America doesn't seem very interested in general health
care, and education.


From more than a thousand miles away, perhaps. Your problem Iain is that
your provincial mind thinks of America of being just one people, just one
place, just one set of aspirations.

About half of the people in my particular community have attended college.


People here, most of whom speak two or three languages
with very good English, find it hard to believe that
Detroit, the city where you live Arny, has an illiteracy
level of 47% Nearly half the population of your city
cannot read and write in their own language!!


Detroit is not my city. It's a city that shares a border with my city, which
is Grosse Pointe Woods. About half of the people in my city have attended
college, so their literacy is not in doubt.

Illiteracy is unfortunately characteristic of that particular group of
people. It takes a very small mind to try to characterize a country of 300
million people as being the same as an unfortunate, less than one million of
them who live in a particular place, not that far from where I live. Your
contant re-iteration of this unfortunately fact makes you look very
mean-spirited Iain, which of course is your true nature.




About half of the people in my city have attended college, so their
literacy is not in doubt.


Why should you think that worthy of a mention?

Illiteracy is unfortunately characteristic of that particular group of
people. It takes a very small mind to try to characterize a country of 300
million people as being the same as an unfortunate, less than one million
of them who live in a particular place, not that far from where I live.
Your contant re-iteration of this unfortunately fact makes you look very
mean-spirited Iain, which of course is your true nature.


Let's contine this discussion when you come to visit here.
Many people are looking forward to meeting
"the man behind the mouth"


Iain



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Old February 7th 11, 10:50 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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"Iain Churches" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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Illiteracy is unfortunately characteristic of that
particular group of people. It takes a very small mind
to try to characterize a country of 300 million people
as being the same as an unfortunate, less than one
million of them who live in a particular place, not that
far from where I live. Your contant re-iteration of this
unfortunately fact makes you look very mean-spirited
Iain, which of course is your true nature.


Let's contine this discussion when you come to visit here.


Send me a round trip airplane ticket with prepaid accomodations at some
convenient location. That's the offer that John Atkinson used to obtain my
presence in NYC, and I'll treat you no worse.

Many people are looking forward to meeting "the man behind the mouth"


I have no special interest in meeting you in person Iain. We've got plenty
of people with high opinions of themselves and low IQs right here in the
good old USA.




 




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